Zoomers about to do Jan. 6th on congress over tiktok being banned.
I wish but seriously the dumbest shit ever. China is not spying on your oafish american ass they literally could care less.
It’s not about spying it’s about corporate theft. US can’t stomach the next big growth platform being owned by a Chinese company. A TikTok ban is a gift to meta/google as it would basically force a fire sale of that division and nobody else would have the capital to buy it.
If they pass the ban the Chinese gov should buy it from douyin and shut it down. The salt would pour freely
Nah I think the best thing for the Chinese government to do would be to direct Tik Tok to leave the US market. Put it on Huawei app store or something and watch all the zoomers learn how to sideload apps.
If Tik Tok leaves the US market it'll still be a huge social media player in Europe and the rest of the world. That would be an American soft power nightmare - a global platform that Americans are blocked from influencing on by their own laws.
Chinese government should buy it and just exclude the American market.
All the kids will get vpns in 48 hours and how much America sucks ass will be the main kind of content on tik tok.
just exclude the American market
I really want to see how that plays out lol
“One of the main effects of the legislation would be to decrease the sale price,” said Matt Perault, director of the University of North Carolina’s Center on Technology Policy, which gets funding from TikTok and other tech companies. “As you approach that 180-day clock, the pressure on the company to sell or risk being banned entirely would be high, which would mean probably the acquirers could get it at a lower price.”
https://fortune.com/2024/03/13/will-tiktok-be-banned-or-acquired-walmart-oracle/
We should criticize israel's genocide a lot on facebook so that can be banned to. Free the boomers from mindjail.
You can't. Facebook supresses the shit out of Pro-Palestine content. And Facebook is cutting edge on AI moderation -- It's really hard to fool the automation for very long.
Yeah Al Jazeera actually just released a documentary on this yesterday. It is systematic.
Do you think AI dumping would ruin the site? Like Facebook requires and sells so much data, wouldn't it be cool to flood it with AI generated data and see how that affects them?
I mean I kinda wanna see the social media equivalent of a potemkin village.
You can never tell what the rules are, but content about palestine seems to be high risk for getting zucc'd. Plus only ancient people are on facebook.
I'm sure that's part of the issue here, it's way easier for the us to censor us-owned platforms
TikTok's servers are in the USA and one of its HQs is in Los Angeles
Not really. TikTok US's leadership is full of ex-natsec ghouls.
The issue is that it's way easier to censor/propagandize overseas on us-owned platforms.
TikTok is administered and run in the USA and complies with all US directives. They probably have a CIA consultant on staff and an NSA department that sends over the data to them.
Literally just banning it so now China has to pay Facebook a nominal fee for the data.
I genuinely hope this causes young people to radicalize. They've been asking for a decade for somebody to do something about them being murdered by the dozens in school and after doing nothing they're going to ban the social media site young people use after allowing Facebook to do the same thing the whole time under the guise of "protecting children".
It'd be hard to come up with a more effective way to tell them electing dems doesn't accomplish anything good.
they're "protecting children" from each other, because it's other kids posting all the pro-Palestine content that congress wants to shut down
is that a motherfucking Dune reference?
Old people scared of china, and banning tiktok because of it, can be traced directly back to leaded gasoline brain poisoning, several studies have confirmed.
Wasn't much leaded gasoline back when they passed the Chinese Exclusion laws. Hating Chinese people has a much longer history than leaded gas.
"concerned citizens are contacting their representatives to not ban tiktok. This is a clear indicator that they are addicted and being manipulated, so we must ban tiktok"
What prevents the intelligence apparatus from controlling tiktok content the same way they control ig/fb/twitter's content? It seems to me that they're very concerned with tiktok's ability to influence public opinion (ex: Gaza), which is part of why they want it banned.
It seems to me that they’re very concerned with tiktok’s ability to influence public opinion (ex: Gaza), which is part of why they want it banned.
This. It's always about controlling the eyeballs of the chattel; and right now, the State sees a need to corral the young. Because again, yankee genociders can't compete on their own merits. It's pure protectionism and propaganda control.
Damn social media allowing people to be social!
Lmao I don't think I've seem a more radicalizing comment in a long time.
Next time somebody says if you dont like something the only acceptable form of activism is to civilly contact your representatives show them this comment which basically boils down to "we've received a bunch of comments asking us not to ban tik tok which really highlights how important it is that we abn tik tok."
What's stopping them from using the same playback in the future.
"A bunch of people called me and encouraged me to support universal Healthcare which is just proof universal Healthcare is a Chinese psyop meant to distract us from the real work of legalizing child slavery."
wdym in the future, exchange chinese psyop for communism and that's basically been the argument for 60 years and running
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68517607
The BBC coverage of this is insane. Tiktok is uniquely hypnotic and the youth of today are experiencing reefer madness from this foreign seducer:
Staffers to other lawmakers on both sides of the aisle also reported hundreds of calls to their offices, from app users young and old, who did not have a clear idea of either who or why they were calling.
A spokesperson for Dusty Johnson told the BBC his office had received calls from people who were very upset, as well as "some people who are asking kindly if TikTok is going to be banned, and some have said TikTok wouldn't let them on the app without calling their [representative]".
"I am deeply troubled by reports of young people calling Congress, threatening to commit suicide or otherwise harm themselves," Mr Torres said in a statement to the BBC.
"The iron grip that TikTok has on the minds of young people is a profound public health hazard."
Callers range from teenagers to the elderly, and most are "really confused and are calling because 'TikTok told me to'", one Republican staffer revealed.
Florida Congressman Neal Dunn's office told the BBC it has received more than 900 calls from TikTokers, "many of which were vulnerable school-aged children"
TikTok is literally forcing Americans to participate in a consultative democracy. This is the worst nightmare of any gop or dem staffer lmao.
Texarkana Congressman Chestinauld "Tater" Ford-Walmart III was set upon by a gang of youths outside his family's personal bowling alley. Once he was cornered, they opened their mouths simultaneously to emit a loud static and a disembodied voice whispering violently, "The Future Is Now, We Are The Dark Sunrise." Then they all started twerking, unamericanly, forcing the Congressman to flee for his life and hide next door in his family's personal Bible Study Hall & Golden Corral.
Poor tater
Wow the evil Chinese mind virus has infected the youth
my son used to be patriotic but now he does china all day. i told him "its time to say the pledge of allegiance boy" and he called me a dang 白鬼 because tiktok told him to.
I'm on a discord group tht has a lot of zoomers and maybe a few alphas, and they're suddenly interested in how laws are passed. This is a huge opportunity to radicalize
Tiktok is uniquely hypnotic and the youth of today are experiencing reefer madness
There needs to be a "reefer madness" phrase just for Tiktok.
I was inclined to say "satire is dead when BBC news are like a carbon copy of a Kelly cartoon with the labels edited out", but then i remembered the labels are always the best part and that this means that actually, it's the news that are dead.
It's actually illegal in China to say "Chinese Communist Party - CCP" you HAVE to say CPC otherwise a small drone will KILL you, very handy in identifying Chinese infiltrators in Burger King.
can confirm (my dad works at Burger King)
It's funny because lately my tiktok feed is full of AI voice overs, people trying to sell some crap, and viewer farming channels. Every 10-15 videos I get some watchable content and maybe 1 explicit Palestine video in a 30 min session, eventhough I follow political accounts.
I barely open TikTok anymore because my experience is the exact opposite: a whole bunch of people with Palestine takes or just recounting the latest harrowing thing happening in Gaza.
Y'all gotta get better at slapping your algo around when it's not working for you. If you're burned out on something tell it you're not interested until it stops. You can also go search it up later if you need to. I got stuck on chicken videos for weeks before I finally just had to start saying I wasn't interested lmao
Mine has good days and bad days. I've noticed that I'm less likely to see creators I like on my fyp if I follow them which seems really counterintuitive lol. I stopped following people and just interacting with content I like and it got much better. I know I can just go to my following page but I swear it's broken or something. It'll say I'm out of content after showing me month old videos but when I go to their page they have more recent stuff. It's weird
As far as palatine videos I'm the opposite. I'm drowning in the suckers. I'll even get stuff that's just posted with like 5 views. When the algo is working it is incredible but when it's not working right it feels like total ass
default tiktok content is shitty it takes a bit to curate it. i feel like following doesn't matter as much, are you hitting like on those kinda videos and pressing "not interested" on the stuff you don't wanna see? commenting also matters, it's basically a second or third like regardless of what's in it. my fyp is all political stuff, memes, edits, music, anime, games, interests, pretty much exclusively stuff i might like (except for the inevitable ads/"sponsored"/"elgibile for commission" posts which are instantly skippable unlike any other platform)
The cold war is back baby!
it irks me that every online discussion I've seen on this forced expropriation does not mention Oracle at all. The whole charade is predicated on it being Chinese owned and run but it isn't.
That would be funny if Tiktok ends up being compliant with the law they pass, and any ISP that does try to ban it gets sued because of that, and the court rules that yes, it's compliant with the law. And Congress keeps trying to ban it but they're too geriatric and tech illiterate to actually get the right wording to ban it.
Eh I wouldn't count on it. Even if they somehow fuck it up that badly, they tend to follow the spirit of the law when it's something they want but they didn't account for, or letter of the law when they're just being ghouls. Vibes based law enforcement.
What's up with Oracle?
The closest thing we have had to free speech in a while so the of course the government hates it.
Serious question - what's the dem's electoral strategy here? I just don't get it. What voting bloc is worth the loss of some really pissed off people - especially young people?
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I love the word "bloc". I'm dyslexic so a part of my brain keeps telling me it's wrong even though I know it's not.
"We're not Trump."
That's it. That's the strategy.
The Dems probably care less about losing than they let on. Two wings of the same party and all that. Do lawmakers make less money (including corrupt money) if they're in opposition rather than in govt?
They make more money because instead of lecturing people about why it's unreasonable to expect them to shut down the concentration camps or not drill more oil than every country ever they get to send out fundraisers saying give them money so they can shut down the concentration camps and stop oil drilling.
The dems electoral strategy is to lose, "concede defeat with dignity" and then get to fund raise offf of pretending they wouldn't be doing the exact same thing as republicans if they were in power.
Losing elections is dems preferred state of being, they get to claim the moral high ground and insist they're just powerless to do the good things people want and fundraise by promising to do those good things if you give them enough money. Again.
IMO Biden is still the favorite they have at least 3 key points.
1- There is no left and those to the left of him are not willing to radicalize or vote Trump to make a point. To be fair the uncommitted vote narrative may prove this wrong, but Dems likely believe this is just protest/activism rather than real conviction, you can argue both ways.
2- They can still make promises that they wont keep and these promises hold a lot more value coming from Dems by default. There are lots of economic promises and concessions he can make.
3- Trump is incompetent and wont successfully attack from the left. The only issue Trump could win is foreign policy and they're betting on libs being pro-Ukraine/pro-war again simply by saying it was the Republicans fault that Ukraine did not get enough military aid and therefore lost the war.
Trump can only attack that point from the left, tell the public about Ukrainian lives, the corruption in their government, the fact men are fleeing, the fact even Europeans are against the war etc There are lots of ways to attack the Ukraine war narrative but it is very doubtful he is competent and even ideologically capable of hitting those narratives.
Besides its not guaranteed to work anyway, the neolibs were correct to try and make the war entirely about western values. It immediately pins any opposition as being anti-western and anti-democracy and in a western world where the majority are libs by default, this is very powerful for at least 1 election cycle.
When it comes to Palestine, if Trump doesn't propose a clear cut de-escalation and hits the same right to defend itself BS then IMO sadly liberals will vote for Biden. All Biden got to do is get a 30 day cease-fire before the election honestly.
Remember that thing from 2016 where they were like "for every voter we lose we pick up two in the suburbs" and then ate shit and lost? They're trying it again.
They don't care because they will mostly still remain salaried politicians whether or not they form a majority.
yOuNg PeOpLe DoN't VoTe
no more half measures walter
Former Vice President Joe Biden pushed back this week on millennials who say they have it tough, saying he does not sympathize with them.
“The younger generation now tells me how tough things are. Give me a break. No, no, I have no empathy for it. Give me a break,” Biden, 75, told The Los Angeles Times earlier this week.
“Because here’s the deal guys, we decided we were gonna change the world. And we did. We did. We finished the civil rights movement in the first stage. The women’s movement came to be,” he continued.
Then he became the President and Roe v Wade was overturned and wants to ban a social media platform mostly used by people younger then 40.
Typical lib belief that the civil rights movement and women's rights were things that happened and we can move on now, look, we even have MLK Day and International Woman's Day, what more do you want?
I cannot believe that they drink their own Kool Aid though
We finished the civil rights movement in the first stage
Wow, it only took until 60 years ago (living fucking memory for large swathes of the US) to finally acknowledge black people were human, congrats America
"we" finished the civil rights movement?
Joe you were chumming it up with KKK members at their funerals and passing racist "harsh on crime" laws. WTF are you talking about "we"? You were on the wrong side of the conflict.
We finished the civil rights movement in the first stage.
They indeed stopped it from succeeding.
"civil rights movement"
Yankee slavers and genociders can't compete on their own merits and have to lock it down to try and prop their crumbling fiefdom up another year
wish they wereChina is not spying on your oafish american ass they literally could care less.
Cool zoomers to the US congress:
ass they literally could care less.
American detected
FYI you can also use a seismograph
Zoomers tend to be more lethal. They’ve trained all their lives since kindergarten
They literally could care less
So they do care somewhat.
I mean, the idiots are taking away the treats from young people. This is like a 1789 level dumb move. Only capitalist ennui prevents it from a potential full crisis, and if another crisis hits at the same time it might be.
So many new voters have had their first betrayal from a politician in this too. Jeff Jackson (NC) built up a huge part of his base using tiktok and then immediately turned around and voted yes. Then he had the audacity to make a video about how he doesn't think it'll get banned without even mentioning that he voted yes lmao. This is the guy that ran on honesty and transparency because of course he did.
Everyone has to learn that politicians are ALL full of shit at some point but I still feel so bad for them. It's a crappy lesson we all had to learn eventually. I guess some of them are kinda lucky in a way to get to learn this lesson so early as voters. I didn't get really bitchslapped until my 30s
I want to believe
Only capitalist ennui prevents it from a potential full crisis, and if another crisis hits at the same time it might be.
stop making me hopeful 😩
Taking away treats never ends well in Burgerland.
Yes it does. There is no revolutionary potential in that shithole
The last 50 years has been taking away treats
Zoomers getting real close to their Battleship Potemkin moment.
Comrade Uncommitted gonna clean sweep in November
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Ummm sweaty, OP is clearly in the employ of George Soros in the foot fetish division
I hope this is a bit because the Westerners have this obnoxious obsession with projecting their governments actions onto the CPC.
Xi personally made me into a billionaire when I made the traa comm here
*CPC
Eh?
@SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net I believe you have been outed 😔
It's like the scene from the thing, you make someone say CCP at flamethrower point and if they're a CPC infiltrator they morph into an alien monster.
lmao it's so funny when you nerds stumble in here
+10 Experian credit score
I thought I was born too late to see lead paint Cold War brain worms in real time. Thank you.
CPC*
(HL2 overwatch voice)
Congratulations patriot! For your contribution in reporting anti-citizen behavior, you have been administered 50 FICO points to your account. Long live America!
God I wish we were cool enough to be paid for being pro PRC. You liberals are such brainlets you can't imagine people disagree with your awful system.
Idk about the ban fully going through by election time, if you so, GenA and GenZ I have faith in you. Seriously though, it'll probably get sold to a shell company or delayed in court until right after the election or something similar.
had to have high high hopes for a minute
Lots wrong with this comment.
Firstly, TikTok in the US is administered and run by American company. It's hosted in the US. It feeds data into the NSA, not to Beijing.
Secondly, "disinformation" comes from NYT, WaPo, CNN, FOX and all the major news companies first and foremost. More disinfo comes from US politicians and US media than from the dastardly chinese. The White House press corp lie out their teeth every day. So if that's your actual concern you're barking up the wrong tree and trying to suppress speech but calling it "fighting disinformation" because it's speech you don't like - it's actually just jingoism and xenophobia used to attack freedom of speech, but frame it as you fighting Xi if it makes you feel better.
Thirdly, hostile entities to the USA are good. The USA needs to be undermined and destroyed, so that's not really a valid concern
with escalating tensions between the US and China, it's really not crazy to consider banning it. It is a disinformation and data mining platform and there is cause to believe that it is hostile.
Lmao
Most propagandized country on earth, so gullible
The "cause to believe it is hostile" is literally just made up. Americans are fucking WILD yo.
lmao douyin should do some reverse 蛮夷入关 cyberjudo shit and roll out the red carpet for all tiktok refugees
The dems woke up and were like "The active hand in genocide isn't enough. We got to alienate even more young people."
Dems should ban kids from calling me cheugy
This isn't as far away as you think and we're pretty much there in the UK and Germany where "Somebody called me an asshole on facebook after I announced the project start for "Turning the local skate park into a snake pit in which to throw all unruly children" has somehow become a national emergency
or when 14 year olds hear anyone say they're over 17 and say "damn unc" to call them old 💀