Moderators Across Social Media Struggle to Contain Celebrations of UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Assassination
Moderators Across Social Media Struggle to Contain Celebrations of UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Assassination
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“United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s final KD ratio (7,652,103:1) lands him among the all time greats,” a thread deleted by r/interestingasfuck moderators said.
What I like about this moment is that the people who ought to be fearful are indeed the ones who are fearful. I mean shit, Elon is posting Tweets about how great CEOs are actually, health insurance companies are removing pages from their websites that identify leadership, it's a lovely little pocket of schadenfreude where we can all take a breath and prepare for the next 4 years.
I like the idea that they've got billions of dollars, but will have to live in a windowless bunker eating beans.
These parasites know that we got numbers on our side and we permit their rule by and large...
I don't think this corp of owners realize that plebs can turn on a dime, they got too comfortable. This is a wake up call.
Having their goon wacked like this got to make them feels a certain way hehe
I hope there’s a copycat to reinforce the lesson very soon, or they’ll write this off as a one off.
For the sake of my neighbors and their loved ones and their neighbors and loved ones, please stop permitting people to rule over them
Ive got bullets with words on them and bullets without. But I'm all outta bullets without words on them
He didn't really get "assassinated". He just got denied his critical-life benefits.
Pre-existing condition, lead poisoning in a boomer.
This isn't a generational thing. For a start, he's technically Gen X, not a boomer. And secondly, I'm older than him and I'm just as happy about that as everyone else.
He was actually GenX.
You've seen pictures of him right? Just how fucking young do you think boomers are?
Everyone older than me is a boomer.
This guy was willing to do it for free. Imagine if there was a bounty.
When society gets to the point where you will die if you don't do anything .... or you will die if you do something ....
Eventually people realize that they will be punished, threatened or endangered no matter what they do or don't do, some people will come to the conclusion that they would rather go down fighting.
If you're going to get screwed doing nothing, some would rather go out on a blaze of glory because they no longer have anything to lose.
I am assuming that when this guy is caught, what we will find out is that his wife had cancer and died from it and they refused to honor their claims or something like that.
Falling Down was in my head this week. The number of people in the US that are close to it is so high, it's barely fringe. Ironically Trump might just trigger a revolution when he tries to clamp down.
Does he have a Patreon?
Even if he did, any funds would be frozen. A Monero Address would be a better way of receiving money.
Edit: Mind you, I expect him to very soon be arrested, so he wouldn't really have any time to enjoy it.
Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.
Don't get scammed but if he ever needs a legal defense fund, I think the plebs can figure it out.
He did job well, least we can do it pay respects
Does he have an OnlyFans?
Anything sent like that would be frozen. Monero would be the better option.
Can we crowdfund this, and provide a crypto bounty as reward for targets, including politicians, in the same way there was a reward for information on the shooter?
This would be to let those who step out of line know how much disdain there is for any of them in particular at any given moment, and the rewards can be split as needed.
The proletariat needs alternative systems of leverage.
This is for my Purge sequel screenplay, of course. One can dream.
Jim bell ftw
I couldn't help but notice Blue Cross rescinded its very dangerous policy placing a time limit on anesthesia the day after the murder.
I don't want a reign of terror, but perhaps just a little bit of terror will have CEOs thinking they could be next when considering especially harmful policies.
In France, during the Nazi occupation in WW2, a few people turned to the Resistance movement which was also a terror operation: they would target military objectives but also conduct assassinations of nazi officials designed to inspire fear in the others and spark support in the population.
You just reminded me of a movie and let's just say I highly recommend it.
On yet another front, the Greek resistance would kill Nazis. In retaliation, Nazis would kill whole villages. Enraged, more Greeks would join the resistance and kill more Nazis. Net result: Towards the end pretty much every Greek was in the resistance and Greece was the only (IIRC, or at least the first or something) country to free itself from Nazi occupation. (Then they became a dictatorship different story).
Thats okay because its not terror its defense.
No, it's terror. It's just that that isn't always the negative we've tended to think it is.
Typically we've been citizens in a country on the "power" side of the dynamic, so using terror like that meant using it on us, and so we learned that it's bad.
This time we're on the other side of the power dynamic, so it's seemingly.... Good.
The bad thing being good creates cognitive dissonance.
Marx once said that proletarians won't embellish the terror once it's their turn.
Robespierre thought killing tens of thousands of people was defense. History has not been kind to that position.
Just a light drizzle of terror
Technically they didn't fully rescind it. They rescinded it in some places but not others, and for some patients but not others. It's just PR, they have no intention of actually changing things.
You know what's pretty neat about this?
It's not mob justice. Mob justice is when people get together and come up with bad ideas. This is an individual that the public has now rallied around.
While we only see comments from a select few number of people in this country (relative to it's size of 350m) it seems that democracy is voicing itself. I know a lot of people who were initially shocked, but then quickly came to the conclusion that FAFO is a real thing.
And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.
And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.
Hopefully more of the FO part comes out of the woodwork.
"Mob justice" is a boogeyman invented to distract you from the fact that the cops and the state give you no justice at all.
It's not even mob justice, it's vigilante justice. It just so happens in this case practically everyone is pretty happy about it having happened.
The mob never called for this CEO's death, we're just not sad he was killed. Even if in general most of us wouldn't actively call for people to be killed.
If it makes CEOs afraid, then fantastic, a nice happy side-bonus.
This guy is probably gonna get folk songs in TikTok by now
Not a lot of finding out so far though.
Fuck Around, Find Out?
You got it.
Is karma.
I'm telling ya, this is the beginning of A Christmas Carol. The ghost of Thompson needs to visit his colleagues and warn them you too, shall die, and no-one will mourn you and the people will celebrate in the streets. And all your friends will tear into your assets like vultures into carrion.
Heck, replace the ghosts with mobsters and use a trick of time rather than supernatural spirits, and you have a 21st century version of the story.
Dude
I love it.
Get Bill Murray and Bobcat Goldthwait. We're doing this.
Man, this shit just keeps being funny. The longer it stays funny, the better it affects all involved.
Fuck the media for treating this murder as super important. This is something that only wealthy elites care about.
But if the media didn't blew it up so much, we wouldn't get all these memes.
Its the Streisand in full effect.
Im only respond to your words: that only wealthy elites care about. Pedant warning. By responding you are agreeing to a very narrow discussion. Thank you for engaging this point of contention if you choose to do so.
This is inaccurate. my proof is that I know people who are unhappy with the mob mentality around murder being okay. People who dont even make as much as i do, and while i consider myself poor, i recognize im above my areas minimum wage. Additonally I am not a wealthy elite and care about this to the degree that it could be a problem for us non elites if things go badly
I personally midly concerned about what problems this might be showing us. Im not in a position to address or research them and dont claim that what i can see might happen is going to happen. Im opposed to people basing significant hardline stances on unproven and or untested assumptions and predictions. But I do see, without much difficulty or effort, how mobs and pitchforks are rarely proven to be acting on good faith rationality.
So all im asking here is for you to contemplate why you were comfortable making such an easily arguable word choice and if you could be more precise in the future when you really are passionate about an argument you are making.
How fucked up is it that the day after the ceo of a major health insurance company was murdered in broad daylight,
The next day another health insurance company said they would no longer limit anesthesia during surgeries.
This makes me realize something, and it’s not what our sponsor or corporate donor wants me to believe.
‘We have to wait for elections to attempt to fix anything’ is just something we’ve been brainwashed to believe.
Enough people deciding they want change immediately makes it happen. Especially when those at the reigns fear immediate backlash.
Elections are theater as long as corporate campaign funding exists.
Elections were the deal. We'd vote for representatives and abide by their decisions rather than, y'know, killing people in the streets to change society.
When elections can't change society, though. When the deal is broken, it's back to the old ways.
Yea we feast on their money while they get to serve it up voluntarily to stay clear of the guillotine.
I don’t want their money. It’s blood money, kind of like blood diamonds….
I’d take powerball though
It’s true. The YT link is for music. Here’s the article.
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/05/nx-s1-5217617/blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-anthem
On the 4th of July, American's don't celebrate that British soldiers were killed, we celebrate the society we won in the process.
You think the "shot heard round the world" didn't hit someone?
We have to start somewhere and celebrate the early battles as well as the war's outcome
I mean back in the day, there's a solid chance that shot was way off target.
So, you're saying that Americans are at a civil war against their upper class?
When the war was still going on, they probably did celebrate the number of enemy killed.
Thank fuck Lemmy isn't owned by corporate interests that need other corporate interests to advertise on them or it'd be happening here, too.
Stop struggling and accept that lots of people are ok with advocating violence against evil people.
I'm curious how many of those opposing the current trend would agree with statements as simple as "It is a good thing that Adolf Hitler, author of the blitzkrieg and holocaust that killed millions of people, is dead."
Like, I get that anytime Hitler comes up, a part of our mind sorts it into exaggerated allegory. But he was a real person, who existed - and, if he hadn't died in mysterious circumstances, it would be up to Berlin's invaders to decide what to do with him.
And, speaking honestly, would giving him an extensive trial and then spend the rest of his life in prison, able to spread his ideology and beliefs to other prisoners, be any better?
I mean, I don't have a problem with people advocating violence against evil people.
But being happy or laughing does seem pretty tactless and frankly gross.
Death and violence may be necessary in many instances but it should never be glorified or celebrated, simply accepted.
Stop struggling and accept that lots of people are ok with advocating violence against evil people.
The Adjuster didn't adjust the witness, merely the parasite.
The people took notice.
Something something and I'm tired of pretending it isn't, etc. The only thing I feel bad about is if he has had young children who couldn't understand he was a waste of skin, they have my sympathy.
Feel worse for the millions of children that are parentless due to his policy decisions. His kids will be FINE.
I would honestly go so far as to suggest that in the long term, not having this monster raise them (given they'll still have plenty of money) probably leaves them better off.
yeah alls his theoretical kids would have is millions of dollars, the best education, a lavish lifestyle, trust funds, but they would not have their asshole dad.
Don't forget the children whose siblings died due to insurance fuckery, and the parents who've lost children.
Crying from the 3rd floor of their yacht...
His kids have been profiting off of the death he had a hand in. They'll be just fine in their ivory towers, whatever happens.
It's bi-partisan too. Which makes this infinitely more insane
Weird, isn't it, like there's some vast wellspring of support a political party could have tapped into by doing literally fucking anything but defending the status quo.
Healthcare fucks over everyone equally, it doesn't discriminate.
One of r/InterestingAsFuck’s rules is “No politics,” which a moderator for the subreddit told us is the reason it was removed.
A rule for arbitrarily deleting any post on an ill-defined idea that some topics are not political. Why even say such an unreasonable thing when you can just say supporting violence is against site-wide rules?
One of r/InterestingAsFuck’s rules is “No politics,” which a moderator for the subreddit told us is the reason it was removed.
That is such a stupid rule, because everything is politics.
Why even say such an unreasonable thing when you can just say supporting violence is against site-wide rules?
No one who thinks that hard is still moderating at reddit.
I bet because nobody was actually supporting violence just gloating BC parasite got FAFO
Hopefully dude never gets caught (Which he probably won't as it's now been greater than 48 hours, and we all know what that means if you've seen The First 48)
But if he does, it's going to be awfully hard putting together a jury that hasn't heard of JURY NULLIFICATION
48 hours is only for regular cases with one or two cops assigned. High profile stuff like this gets considerably more attention and resources for a longer period of time
First 48 is about finding a victim alive. Murderers are commonly identified and caught outside that window.
At this point, I don't even think they want to catch him anymore. He's already being talked about as a hero, throwing him in jail would make him a martyr. People would protest at the trial too, it would be a mess.
If they catch him they will kill him.
Exactly. There's no way they'll allow him to speak his mind or allow the people to rally in his support in a huge trial. They find him, he's dead. The "how" they'll figure it out. Happy cop trigger, killed while trying to escape, heart attack, attacked by a bear, hit by meteorite. They'll come up with something, mark my words.
He should walk into a news organisation lobby and ask to be arrested there
Well, the news is now out that these corporate fatcats are not as untouchable as they think
Good, the spineless hand wringing bootlicking fucking scumbags are losing. Wonderful to see.
And now they're trying to make it about race, check this out.
They are afraid... for now there are no killer robots protecting them... But they sure try.
They do this to divide and conquer. It's a ploy to take the attention from billionaires at the moment and focus on left and right politics
nope. the right is celebrating too. going by the Facebook post alone, the population of which should already lean right, implying that the left:right ratio is 60:2 is stupid, though not too stupid for a fucking troglodyte.
not losing anytime soon, just slightly annoyed, like letting the tip of the towel hit the wet floor
I think this is as funny as the next person but realistically what will change?
Won't they just elect another scumbag and keep going?
I think it's a precedent, CEOs actually have something to fear aside from their job. Which usually fails upward with a good serverance package. This is also a sign that the Government and the laws of the land no longer works for the people. It's a good and a bad thing either way. Personally I think it's a huge mistake we made companies as a person. I think this is were the root cause is. Since it disconnects the accountability of the people working especially the higher ups.
If they’re a person it should go all the way. They should be able to go on trial for homicide. Some states still have the death penalty for people. Disband the company if it commits serious crimes.
I think they'll all get their companies to pay for security details and armored cars. It'll make them feel even more self-important.
Hard to predict.
This act broke the taboo against violence and shattered the perception of powerlessness. Turns out there is something you can do against these assholes, and it's not as unpopular an option as you might have expected.
It may inspire imitation, emboldening other pissed victims. It may scare the other CEOs into treading more carefully. It might embolden progressive politicians to challenge the status quo, now that they see how popular that can be.
Or it might end up a big ball of hot air that doesn't do anything. Like I said, hard to predict.
If all the disaffected white teens stopped shooting up schools and started shooting CEOs, it's not healthy, but they would be channeling their anger in a better direction.
Nothing will change unless it becomes a recurring and common thing.
How many people can actually pull off a successful assassination of a wealthy person? Not many, especially now that security is going to go up.
Nothing will change, but at least that one guy got some revenge.
Assassinating is so easy a child could do it. It’s getting away with it that’s hard.
just wait until Republicans suddenly turn anti-2A
And that one guy got his comeuppance
If only it were easier to organize into teams without being infiltrated by disguised fed boys, but only the right is allowed to do that.
The assassination reminded us that they are not some sort of incorporeal beings, but that they can be killed.
Not if something also happens to the next one and the following one and so on.
I mean that's a fair thought.
But even by USA capitalist standards, this specific man was a monster who in a just world wouldn't be allowed to be in charge of anything. The world is slightly better off without such a greedy and heartless man in it.
Well, if you don't wanna celebrate a monster dying just for the sake of it, we can look at it from an environnent perspective, taking that pos out did more for the environnent than Green Peace has in the last 10 years.
Yes, your advocating for killing the entire board of directors is the right move. Another route would be to kill off all of the large institutional investors like fidelity, JP Morgan etc who put that board in place. But that's about where the buck stops. Sadly those people are better at being faceless so it's harder, but it would also work for all public companies (for example Boeing, or John Deere, or all of the other more notably evil companies lately)
I've been pretty impressed that the shooter has so far evaded police. I can only imagine that there have been at least one or two incidents thus far where people, be it cops or witnesses, had a clear opportunity to take actions that would lead to his immediate capture, but decided not to.
From what I know, cops often rely on the cooperation of the public to resolve crimes, but they may not be getting any on this one.
I'm sure it helps that he was across two state lines before the search even began
We don't know that... He could still be NYC lol
The Adjuster operating at a different level from the rest of us and it seems even pigs can't figure it.
Apparently FBI is helping them but I am not sure if this their wheel house their speciality is mostly pinning terrorists charges on retarded Muslim kid, organizing fake insurrections and kidnappings of governors.
I'm not celebrating, I just think we should have a massive "Enjoy hell, Brian" wake, on the scale of Boston after the Red Sox won the world series for the first time in 80-something years. But nationwide.
Kind of like being anywhere in Scotland when Margaret Thatcher died.
Why contain it? Let it spill over to the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them.
Let it spill over to the schools and churches,
That's what the regime wants, whoever executed topic of the current discussion knew that they could tap this raw anger.
Note how witness was left alone... if he killed the witness, this would be a different story.
Clean murder of a corporate parasite, galvanized the public. Zero tears shed, people are celebrating.
There is a lesson for the elites in this... but they won't learn it. They will regroup and oppression will get worse. They will use full force of the state against working people.
This is just the start.
News@lemmy.world deleted a spicy post from a couple days ago. The fediverse isn't immune but it definitely fares better.
Why the fuck would the moderators care about how much work it is to remove the posts.
One of the mods said (in the article) that to their knowledge it's mostly the paid admins removing it not the unpaid moderators.
The quote I was referencing is this:
“People - Please don't make the life of your mods a living hell. Anything that is celebrating violence is going to get taken down - if not from us, then from reddit. I think all the mods understand that there is a high level of frustration and antipathy towards insurance and insurance execs, but we also understand that murdering people in the streets is not good. We are a public group of medical professionals, we still need to act like that.”
The line about making their lives a living hell?
If you ever feel the need to type that in reference to your volunteer Reddit moderation... Stand up, go outside.
Regime whores doing regime's bidding
If the admins feel like mods aren't doing enough to keep a sub within reddits guidelines, they may remove mods or even ban the subreddit entirely.
🤣
Who would've guessed reddit mods couldn't grow a pair even if presented with a ball-growing pill
In fact, a moderator from a subreddit we hadn’t reached out to for comment reached out because they heard we were contacting moderators to speak about this. They said every instance they were aware of of the surveillance video of Thompson’s death being removed had not been moderators—who, as a reminder, are unpaid volunteers—but Reddit’s paid administrator team that enforces the sitewide terms of use.
Sure, I've read both that and r/nursing parts; but I'm talking about those volunteers who do remove that stuff. I mean, yeah, promoting violence bad, and so on, but maybe the twatwaffles who refuse to build a proper universal healthcare system need to see that ppl support the shooter, and not the attempts of the community to censor itself?
Good. Let the celebration continue.
Shareholders can't stop talking about this one trick to make their stocks go up.
UHC cuts costs by $13 million, find out why CEOs hate this one simple trick
Mods should be joining in on the celebration instead, in particular unpaid / community ones like Reddi's.
unsuccessfully.
just wait until tr*mp kills section 230
first shot of the revolution
GOOD! #good
Is anything remotely likely to change as a result of this on a systemic level or otherwise?
Maybe some future school shooter wannabe will notice that they barely even report on school shootings anymore, and Uvalde even reelected the piece of shit sheriff that let all those kids die. Maybe they will see this shooter being treated like some kind of hero, and decide to hunt Billionaires or CEOs instead.
After enough of those, the world will be drastically improved, or the surviving billionaires will finally bring about some real gun control legislation.
I'm not sure, but locals tagged "Deny, Defend, Depose" near me. If nothing else, seems there'll be good branding made of it.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess nope. What do I win?
TIL Reddit has paid employees, for what they call the "modcoc team".
Went to the post, posted a laughing emoji. I'm French.
The poor News mods here are looking forward to mundane Spam removals at this point.
Fuck 'em.
Insurance companies hate this one weird trick! Find out more at spamwebsite.tk!
How about mundane spelling mistake bans?
My only concern is that I hope this doesn't become an Archduke Ferdinand for an American Civil War part 2.
If that’s the case then it will just be the class war heating up because one side finally started fighting back.
So few of them, so many of us
Is it really a civil war when 99% of the people are on one side?
I think you're underestimating the amount of "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" out there.
Over half the country voted for trump, the man who will make everything worse and who appeals to people's most base instincts. Some of the worst mass shootings were under Trump.
I don't think violence will necessarily be contained to Democrats and old style Republicans. The new right likes corruption, which includes POS health insurance companies.
But how...? Are Magas sad/angry that this happened? Most likely it's the opposite. This is a poor/middle-class vs rich/ultra-wealthy scenario. I guess unless Fox tells/tricks them to be angry and blame liberals, but I'm sure plenty of them are not upset about this. I see it as "the enemy of my enemy" type deal.
united healthcare? how many divisions do they have?
They united the people against them. That's living up to half the name, I guess.
Why contain it? S'cool.
Serious? People are reacting with laughing emojis? Really?
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They just recovered the backpack perhaps
.world is in the EU. The same laws that apply to inciting hate or violence against "The Jews" or "The Blacks" also apply to "The CEOs". And the same laws that apply to Facebook also apply to lemmy.
CEO is not an identity, nor minority. It's a political and economical position
It should be unnecessary to point this out, but here we are
That's not how the law works.
If anyone wants it a little more precise. Lemmy.world claims Dutch and German jurisdiction. An English translation of one relevant German statute may be found here (§130, but also note §131): https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html#p1368
I don't think it has much to do with ethics in the usual sense. It's all about tribal allegiance. Facebook and the like are the enemy. Anything that seems to bother the enemy is cheered. There is no thought that laws apply generally. It reminds me of that old internet meme about conservatism. There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
I think you could make a serious argument that the CEO killing was self-defense. But it's not going to really change anything. Maybe the successor is less ruthless but they will be making decisions in the same social context; facing the same incentives and disincentives.
Won't someone think of the poor CEOs!?
No. From the Case of Savva Terentyev v. Russia (police) of the European Court of Human Rights:
76. The Court further considers that the police, a law-enforcement public agency, can hardly be described as an unprotected minority or group that has a history of oppression or inequality, or that faces deep-rooted prejudices, hostility and discrimination, or that is vulnerable for some other reason, and thus may, in principle, need a heightened protection from attacks committed by insult, holding up to ridicule or slander
ACAB, for pigs and CEOs.
@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
Come and get 'em
Everybody who sees the hitman as a social justice vigilante is gonna report back here when we find out it was some personal bullshit, right?
Oh no, stop, don't do the right thing for the wrong reason
What "personal bullshit" would lead to Deny, Depose, Defend?
Yes it was fucking personal. Maybe he lost someone because of the company. Either way social justice IS personal, for all of us. Wether you believe it or not, injustice affects all of us
What do you mean? I hope it was personal too. I'm already experiencing the catharsis vicariously.
If it turns out he was a shareholder disappointed with his latest dividend, yes I would be sad. That's my line.
It’s one thing to mock it on pseudonymous platforms like Reddit and the fediverse.
It’s another to do it somewhere linked to your real name and job like LinkedIn.
People really hate insurance companies.
Don't do it under your names folks, regime will be making lists based on this.
They are scared and they will lash out.
With that being said, fuck that parasite.
FAFO
You think having a fake online name will stop them from finding out who you are? Did you even pay attention to the Snowden leaks?
They already have lists. The only hope we have is to stand together in solidarity as the working class against the billionaire capitalists entering power.
lol @ thinking reddit is anonymous
Yeah if they fuck with me they will find for sure.
LinkedIn is one of the least sane social media sites I've ever had the displeasure of using. Under all the marketing BS and obviously fake feel good stories lie takes that would make your insane Facebook uncle blush.
I used to work for a big data company that tracked shares to various social networks and the frequency with which people share porn to LinkedIn was remarkably high.
People are too hung up about anonimity on the internet. When one of my country's worst journalistic shitrags mandated a real name policy due to the rampant racism and other -isms in the comment section of their articles... nothing changed. People are happily spewing the same vile rethoric as before and proud to, instead of being shamed into silence.