Hahahaha! Get fucked Vaushites!
Hahahaha! Get fucked Vaushites!
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Sorry it's become even more undeniable your senpai is a fucking creep.
CW: Vaush, discussions of CP
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It's hilarious that they are this ride-or-die and loyal for a fucking bland chauvinist soc dem. Like, dime-a-dozen bland ass boring social democrat. I would understand more if some were esoteric, radical ideologists clinging cult-like to a personality but it's hilarious to see people bending over, embarrassing themselves defending pedophilia and bestiality on behalf of... an annoying white boring soc dem centrist who wants things to stay the same but add healthcare.
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I mean, the Blueanon / BlueMAGA types are doing it for a walking corpse who tries to kill them, and the original MAGA types did it for the most queeny and venal man on the planet. So it seems like there is just something deeply wrong with the yanks at the moment.
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Regardless of his politics he's just... so fucking boring and mid. At least be rude or die for someone cool for fucks sakes!
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People love when they're told what they already want to hear
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the principle of 'anyone who brings up a sexual inclination in a recurrent manner probably has that sexual inclination' continues to be true
also, as a neurotic infosec gal, I have to bring it up: what a fucking rookie mistake. even if the shit he had on his drive wasn't totally creepo, it's just bad practice to have fetishistic/pornographic material that easily accessible on a public-facing computer. 'never have your porn folder a click away' is basic fucking wisdom. buy an external drive. make an encrypted disk image. buy a laptop. nest the folder to hell and back. add literally any degree of separation between shit you don't want to air out publicly and your stream pc. foolish horndog behavior.
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the principle of 'anyone who brings up a sexual inclination in a recurrent manner probably has that sexual inclination' continues to be true
Yea this is pretty much what I expect anytime some chud does actual virtue signaling by telling everybody completely unprompted about how much they are deffinitly against pedophiles
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Chuds who unpromptedly claim to hate pedophiles, gay people, women, and trans people:
pans with pedo characteristics
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All he had to do was create a porn-only and streamer-only Windows accounts with limited access rights for both and lock down his streamer-only Windows account so that it can't see anything that's not in the user folder.
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they're "feeling very doomer" because this makes their favourite internet personality harder to defend? This shit is pathetic
also they seem to have convinced themselves that what he had there is not actually CP. Why? Is it just because it's drawn?
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Some of them are pretending it doesn't exist and are acting incredulous as if people are only getting upset about the horse stuff. Just a straight up denial of reality.
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A lot of these people were convinced that their streamer was the next coming of Marx, the only true leftist on earth. It was weird cultish behavior and now with the pedo stuff out in the open, it's even more like a cult.
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it's been more or less out in the open for ages. Everyone who would listen already knew he was a MASSIVE piece of shit and creep
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Imagine getting “blackpilled” because your extremely stupid parasocial friend ended up actually being a pedophile instead of ironically being a pedophile.
Like holy fuck just stop attaching yourself to them. Go touch grass.
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They list other instances of him being a apedo and as far as I can tell their loguc is "it's not child porn because if it was somebody I like would have been repeatedly caught liking cartoon child porn which would make me wrong which obviously isn't possible"
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That would be the best defense but unfortunately for Vaush, he's already on video explaining that lolicon is pedophilia. So he has to go "I didn't know she was a kid officer, I thought she was a goblin"
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I didn't know she was a kid officer, I thought she was a goblin
lmao is that a shaun reference?
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The fairest I can possibly be is it's the "this isn't CSAM because no actual children are involved" take, just worded badly
Like it's still fucking creepy but that's at least it's an argument
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Pedophilia just means sexual attraction to children. That’s it. If you jerk it to Loli you are by definition a pedophile. It doesn’t require CSAM or actual sexual abuse.
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"Did you look at the alleged cp" is NOT a good strategy.
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Those comments giving me cult vibes. "The problem isn't that he's a creep... the problem is people found out he's a creep"
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They've been running defense for so long this is second nature to them. Before I stopped using
there was a Vaushite that trolled through literally years of my post history looking for stuff that sounded questionable and then made a master post that he would follow me around with and post underneath my comments, I think trying to show how wrong it was to take things "out of context".-
\ Lmao hit that boy with a indeed.com -
tyfs
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I gotta say, the couple of times I've found myself considered a "friend" in some unrelated niche hobby community by someone who turned out to be a vaush/destiny devotee, this is exactly the type of impression I got.
Lots of enormous essay replies in arguments with them, inscrutable grudges that seemed to last months if not over a year, incredible insecurity about their own appearance of intelligence. (The last part does make sense to me, actually--if it's all about nuance for you, then you have to believe that you have a brain fit for the job I guess)
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Imagine spending the finite years of your life on this
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I have never seen people more openly admitting their just ignoring reality.
"If somebody says you're defending pedophilia just don't respond"
That is not the epic comeback you think it is, that's just tacitly approving pedophilia.
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If he were an actual pedo he would use the exact same excuses.
I guess we could try just directly linking the porn to people
Holy shit these people
like Vaush said, it looks worse with context
Funny, that
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If he were an actual pedo he would use the exact same excuses.
How does anyone lack the self-awareness to say something like this unironically?
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i'll be honest if he wasn't a pedophile i'd still hate him.
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He's so smug and so wrong about so many things it's hard not to.
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Me looking at this thread with no prior knowledge of what a vush is or why, and discovering that a vush fan's favoured passtime is literally defending & advocating for pedo shit
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you were the best human a few minutes ago, why did you ruin your streak
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the sin of knowledge 😭
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If it counts
A) I don't know anything else about vush
B) hexbear has already ruined me as a person
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I'm not going to heap on the psychic damage but this isn't even the creepiest shit he's done and his cultists will always claim that it's "out of context" or "he apologized".
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Learning who he is may be the only thing I regret about coming to Hexbear
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It sucks but if you spend a couple hours with grass I guarantee you'll completely memory-hole this entire meaningless internet drama, as we all should.
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maybe if there isnt a credible defense you should stop defending him
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"What news from the posting trenches, captain?"
"I want to be a horse" is also not going over too well
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Singing this to the tune of I Want to Be Your Dog by The Stooges
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These people need hobbies that aren't just parasocial internet shit. Straight up pathetic how they are seemingly personally embarrassed by this because somehow watching the video game man content has become an inseparable part of their entire personality. Even if you used to watch him just call him a weirdo creep and move on with your life shit is so wack lmao
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These are the people accusing AES states of being cults of personality
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this but all for all twitch streaming
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They also watch people play video games in YouTube and watch people talk a out movies the reviewers saw on YouTube too.
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just replicating all the most boring parts of an average kid friend. Like oh awesome dude I love sitting on your couch watching you play single player games that's tight. Oh hell yeah spend the next hour talking about a movie I haven't seen i can't wait
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I hate seeing trans people in these reddit comments, please grow brains
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It hurts.
Cw:Keffals defending this shit.
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It's not pedo jacketing when you're defending pedophilia.
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Goddamnit, she's done some great stuff, but holy shit she is so stupid. Like, she's out there trying to run optics for pedo shit while crying about how it's bad for the trans community to be adjacent to it. Like, why the fuck wouldn't your knee jerk reaction be to disown him then?!
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Lmao get fucked. Never liked her clout chasing ass even during the Kiwifarms days. Her pivoting to NATO-Leftism only made it worse.
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If you find the YouTube video of Vaush addressing this, the entire comment section is worded in this same way lmao. Hundreds of comments going "I'm so disappointed Ethan could do this" as if Ethan was the one who put the images in Vaush's drive lmao.
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Lol I’m so tired of this motherfucker. Can’t believe I have to defend Ethan here. She starts a rant against him publicly, he responds publicly, then she cried about being put on blast? Lmao.
Didn’t she try to “debate” Bad Empanda and just quit the stream midway because she was making up lies about him on the spot, and he was completely caught off guard and confused and questioned why she would say something like that lol
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our siblings need to stop simping for chasers smh
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When the leak happen i honestly thought it was going to be like all other shit vaush has said and it would only be pick up by ML twitter and sometimes ancom twitter but it would get eventually forgotten about.
Im glad H3H3 pick it up, it really fucked over the vaushites now socdems hate him, a nerd i follow in twitter was trying to get in contact with ethan to give him all the evidence of the stuff vaush has said in the past so its going to get worst for the vaushites.
Its funny they are blaming destiny and hasan like its a hit made by them to take out their cult leader, it would be funny if they find out about our vaushbad masterpost and blame us for this.
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i saw a lot of nerds on twitter saying "if ethan thought it actually was childporn he would be reporting vaush to the police, not telling his audience about it
"which, is very interesting to me. they think police = the only moral arbiters, and that people should not talk about crimes with other people who aren't the moral arbiters?
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I mean people with the evidence should report him to the police anyways. It's pretty serious when you combine it with all the other shit he says.
Also who is to say that the H3 guy hasn't contacted the authorities as of now?
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IANAL but I don't think anything shown is illegal in America (Vush is in San Fran, right?), where the relevant law requires that the image look realistic to be considered CSAM.edit: hmm looks like it has been prosecuted before under the PROTECT act of 2003, but it doesn't seem like settled case law to me since the person who got got was charged with obscenity and not possessing CSAM, which is a different thing. Still if you took this kind of stuff to the Circuit or Supreme courts I have a feeling that they wouldn't be too eager to protect it.
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The ruzzians snuck in last night and put a folder of loli on desktop -
don't give these pedophiles any ideas
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it would be funny if they find out about our vaushbad masterpost and blame us for this.
It also might be worth reposting that since there is renewed interest in Vsh bad, ig
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Its funny they are blaming destiny and hasan like its a hit made by them to take out their cult leader
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V*ush is the posterboy for "leftist" grifters
I thought anarcho-bidenism was supposed to be a joke, but at least he's managed to turn it to a as internally consistent ideology as possible by supporting zoophilia, pedophilia and nato
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[CW: CSE]
This is one of the top comments over there:
Aside from the Redditeur posturing (I know this is going to get a lot of downvotes... UwU👉👈) their strategy is to deflect (muh whataboutism!!) and to say that they know his streams well enough that they can verify that he's not a pedo? Lol. Lmao even.
First things first, you don't know what someone is like behind closed doors. Survivors of CSE will be the first ones to tell you this (if these people spent even 1/1000th of the time listening to survivors as they do Va*sh...)
But what I want to get at here is that these dorks have transcended the parasocial relationship and they have achieved parareality; they're literally convincing themselves that their consooming of a livestreamed spectacle serves as a viable substitute for reality itself.
The best part about this strategy is how it's completely doomed to failure. Some other highlights:
People are trying to figure out if the "Actually, she's a 6,000 year old demon who was reincarnated into the body of a 7yo so the sexual objectification of the character is, diagetically speaking, not pedo shit" defense is going to land.
People are trying to figure out if sharing the context of the images makes it seem worse, and apparently it is even according to the big man himself (!!)
People are trying to figure out if they should tell critics to look up the images themselves (!!)
People are trying to figure out if the best strategy is to simply disengage and to stop responding when this gets brought up.
This is what happens when you crowdsource your PR management strategy to a bunch of 20-something year old grassphobes.
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It's weird, it's like a religious affiliation. In the same breath as trying to get people to not look like parasocial freaks, he makes himself look like a thousand times more of a parasocial freak for running cover for someone who he clearly believes is a pedo and is attached to despite that.
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Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?
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Why do they feel the need to tie themselves to vaush, you can just be a socialist and not tie yourself at the hip to some pedo loser who happens to support Palestine
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Anyways, there are actual fascist threats in the United States and Palestinians are facing a genocide so this drama is irrelevant anvways.
Lol the sub cries about tankies as if they run America
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why do some people insist on simping for a bastard who fucking hates them and would dance over their corpse for views?
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All content creators will press a button to kill their fans for a dollar, even the leftist ones. By no means is vaush a leftist though, just a grifting liberal. Im willing to ignore hypocrisy like Hasan owning a mansion but Vaush is not my side so fuck him!
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Drawn
CSAMCP fans when they learn that no, actually, the majority of the people on the internet are not into the same shit they are.-
it cant be CSAM if its drawn, this is a very important distinction for victim advocacy groups. unless there was a real child being abused its not CSAM hence the name. heres an explainer on what CSAM is from the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network the largest anti sexual violence org in America. https://www.rainn.org/news/what-child-sexual-abuse-material-csam this may seem pedantic but its actually very important because people keep trying to report drawn stuff to these orgs and it slows down helping actual victims. also listening to victims orgs is just generally good to do.
edit. thank you for the change ssj2marx!
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Send the entire sub to
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If he were an actual pedo he would use the exact same excuses. [...] We're charitable to Vaush from watching him for so long, so of course we're willing to believe when he explains the situation.
Jesus Christ can you imagine writing this and not realizing anything? This is some cult shit, and a cult led by a pedophile probably won't end well.
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I honestly don't get the dedication to the guy. If you like his content, whatever, but I struggle to think of a single current interweb celebrity I like enough that'd I'd go THIS HARD to bat for, this includes people who put way more effort and craft into their work than fucking Vaush. The dude just streams himself pontificating for hours, and you're this dedicated to him? Wtf is wrong with you?
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It's a parasocial relationship.
People think eCelebs are their friends.
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try criticizing nathan j robinson here and you'll likely get a little taste of the kneejerk defense of a parasocial friend
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Hot take: obsessing over e-celebs is marginally better than obsessing over celebs because at least there's a slim chance the e-celeb will actually acknowledge your shitty chat spam.
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"It sure looks, sounds and seems like this guy is 100% a pedo but I've watched his YouTube videos of him arguing with other assholes for a long time so, actually, no."
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I'm sorry, that's fucked and sounds about right for the 196 Vaushites. A lot of them have known about this stuff for years and it's a knee jerk reaction for them to wave it away or downplay it.
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Lmao and this whole thing is just about the contents of his "TO BE SORTED" folder
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edit: I archived it but it's still processing. They're definitely wiping this thread soon- https://archive.is/wip/1MGOG
Before now, he's already been smeared as a pedo and clip chimped to hell. But it's at least been possible to argue against each of those clips and sound rational. "It's out of context" was our rallying cry to his defense. From there, we can succinctly reframe his initial points about "cp vs child labor," or "the need for consistent utilitarian ethics," or "he was just complaining about how much hentai has a problem with forcing pedo shit into it," or "he was just being edgy in a meme discord before he was a streamer," or "he was naively arguing a point about the way socialism affects power dynamics when he was younger," etc., etc., etc.
But you didn't sound rational. You sounded like a paedophile defending another paedophile because saying "tankie" with your friends makes you feel smart. Normal people could just plainly point to the paedophile saying something terrible and acknowledge it for what it is. Vaushites either couldn't or wouldn't and both are equally damning/unconvincing. If people stopped responding after you said that it's because they feel disgusted interacting with a paedophile.
edit: Jesus, they can't make up their mind between telling non-believers to go look at the photos to prove they aren't CSAM or asking each other for links to the photos so they can prove to themselves that it isn't CSAM.
It s really sad cuz if you actually look up the pics they aren't bad at all. People are just choosing to call it cp to further their own agenda.
Is there an accurate list of high res ones out there? I saw one one from twitter at the start of the drama, but imo the low res thumbnails didn't really match with the added images, so I don't want to base my own judgment off of that, unless it was actually accurate.
I wouldn't say "its not that bad" but instead encourage them to just look it up themselves, because i feel like 90% of those who claim its cp or whatever actually havent looked at the pictures, but is just taking h3 at their word
"Did you look at the alleged cp" is NOT a good strategy.
If you phrase it like that sure im not arguing for that
That's what it's going to sound like to anyone who isn't already on his side.
Yeah, I don't even want to look it up and I'd like to defend Vaush as I think he doesn't have bad intentions. The hentai/bestiality adjacent stuff is something I can't relate to and again, from "knowing" Vaush I'm sure he considers whatever it is harmless but looking at porn for too long can really be desensitizing. There have been moments where I asked myself what the hell I was watching. I bet if the most objectionable porn anyone watched was known lots of people and most who are addicted would seem like absolute weirdo creeps.
This is a hyper-normal response to someone being caught with CSAM. Note this user says "The hentai/bestiality adjacent stuff" but doesn't mention children in that as he goes on to say that he has moments where he asks himself what the hell he is watching and would seem like an absolute weirdo creep if people knew.
You understand how that looks, right? Like actually listen to that exchange:
"You are defending a pedo picture haver." "No, I'm not, you should look up the pictures."
Like, I've asserted it in conversation too, but we have to be realistic about how that sounds to most people.
Ok but you don't have to say it like that lol
The problem is there really isn't a way to say it that doesn't seem insane.
Like you said in your post, defending him is just gonna make us look like unhinged loli defenders. You know what I wish our reaction was as a community?
“I don’t really care about the horse shit but the loli was definitely weird. I’ve watched his content long enough to know he’s not a p*do but it’s not a good look. Anyways, there are actual fascist threats in the United States and Palestinians are facing a genocide so this drama is irrelevant anyways.“
And leave it at that. If people ask, “so you’re okay with being a fan of a pdo?” just don’t respond. I genuinely believe the lengths we go through to defend Vaush not only in this situation, *but in general, make us look like parasocial freaks. That’s why I almost never defend him unless it’s against the fans of a certain community I won’t mention.
I know what you mean, and sympathize. When the leak first happened, I about died laughing. I saw the pics and laughed because it just looked like average hentai to me, and that it was such an easily avoidable leak made it all the funnier. I didn't think much else of it until the H3 podcast and I saw how people reacted. I actually went back to relook at the pics, feeling like I was losing my mind, because it seemed like everyone was talking about entirely different pics from the ones I saw. If nothing else, I think it's very clear to me now that even in leftist spaces there's a lot of reactionary level immaturity when it comes to discussions on porn and sexual fantasies, like it's still treated as taboo and shameful, to the point where people will outright lie to shame. I think the thing that's killing me the most about this right now are people flippantly casting everyone as a pedo. To the point where the H3 sub was poking fun at the term 'pedojacketing', because it's not a serious thing to them. As someone who's queer, and knows how queer this space is, I don't think I need to bridge why that bothers me so badly, and why it really rubs me the wrong way that that legitimate grievance is being brushed aside as unserious and used as further evidence to pedojacket. If I've gone doomer on anything, it's all of that. There's no way to argue against any of this, it'll never be taken seriously. They're literally willing to use info from 4chan to smear people. You'll just get hit with the same attacks, and trying to defend yourself in any way will make you look insane. It's genuinely depressing, and I really don't know what to say or how to say it at this point. All I do know is that while I doubt this will be the end of his career, I think it'll result in Vaush being further isolated as a figure, at least for a long while. Outreach will probably be more difficult, and I doubt any serious political figure is going to come anywhere near him now. As for Vaush himself, I know this is hurting him emotionally (he said as much briefly on stream when he brought up his haircut as part of why he couldn't debate Ethan), but I think his only real option is to stop addressing it and move on. This isn't a battle that can be won, and these were never the people who would ever take him seriously, or any of us seriously, for that matter.
My only solace is the distinction between labeling someone a pedophile and saying they have 2 images that could be interpreted as loli. I know the distinction, and I know from that that much more needs to be established to consider vaush a pedophile. What we have is essentially nothing.
WHY DO YOU KNOW THAT DISTINCTION.
I think a better way to approach would be to simply mention that the clips were taken out of context and if you actually look at the context it it’s not controversial at all. In fact the clips that started this were started by an actual Nazi. Ethan making these claims and using these clips further brings my case that he is a Nazi.
I think it's natural to feel bad for Vaush in this situation. Do you think the bullying happening online is legitimate? Or do you only care to come here and try to make people feel bad?
My take on this, if someone were to ask, would be to simply say, "Yeah, loli shit is fucking bad. I heard the image in question was of a character who's canonically 16 but had also supposedly been aged up or something? I dunno, still sounds like an L on his part if so".
Ackshully sir have you heard of ephebophilia?
MLK was unpopular when he died 🤷 being correct and unproblematic is a burden we bear in a world hell bent on making everything into the end of the world
MLK was unpopular because he wasn't racist not because he loved horse porn
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"It's out of context" was our rallying cry to his defense
So close to a break through here lol
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You understand how that looks, right? Like actually listen to that exchange:
"You are defending a pedo picture haver." "No, I'm not, you should look up the pictures."
Like, I've asserted it in conversation too, but we have to be realistic about how that sounds to most people.
The person calling you brainwashed. I can't even.
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My take on this, if someone were to ask, would be to simply say, "Yeah, loli shit is fucking bad. I heard the image in question was of a character who's canonically 16 but had also supposedly been aged up or something? I dunno, still sounds like an L on his part if so".
Lmao. The character they're talking about is Natsuiro Matsuri from Hololive and yeah, the "canon ages" are a meme and nobody takes them seriously, including the streamers themselves. Houshou Marine is canonically 17 but if you listen to her talk, she's pretty obviously a woman in her 30s and her model also has the body of an adult. I wouldn't call anyone a pedo because they have Houshou Marine porn on their laptop.
But Matsuri? Matsuri doesn't look 16, she looks younger (SFW link). Matsuri is a loli and those images were not aged up at all. Sure, the woman behind the model is an adult but if you're jerking off to pictures of her model, you're still jerking off to a child's body. That's not even ephebophilia, buddy.
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That last comment, about MLK is prime tagline content imo.
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There's so much going on with it.
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WE SHALL OVERCOME!
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Like you said in your post, defending him is just gonna make us look like unhinged loli defenders. You know what I wish our reaction was as a community?
“I don’t really care about the horse shit but the loli was definitely weird. I’ve watched his content long enough to know he’s not a p*do but it’s not a good look. Anyways, there are actual fascist threats in the United States and Palestinians are facing a genocide so this drama is irrelevant anyways
Using the corpses of Palestinian children like puppets to distract people from the fact that you support a Zionist paedophile. These freaks belong at the bottom of a mineshaft.
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They're literally willing to use info from 4chan to smear people. You'll just get hit with the same attacks, and trying to defend yourself in any way will make you look insane. It's genuinely depressing, and I really don't know what to say or how to say it at this point. All I do know is that while I doubt this will be the end of his career, I think it'll result in Vaush being further isolated as a figure, at least for a long while.
Tankies: trying to explain the CIA, color revolutions, Years of Lead, strategy of tension, coups, reeducation, and dictatorship of the proletariat without sounding insane
Neoliberals: trying to get other people to look up loli hentai and explaining why saving sexual drawings involving minors is perfectly normal and needs more context, without sounding insane
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They all want to be Christ on a cross, looking down on the masses, saying "I forgive you, for you know not what is child pornography but I do."
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How are these people so fucking brain damaged what the fuck
How do you type out that post and not have the realization "oh god I've been protecting a pedophile this whole time and am still doing so now"
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That's what was surprising to me, maybe wiser people already left his fanbase, but it was interesting to see the comments be all "there's no way to defend this and look reasonable" yet they still are in support of him
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i desperately want to believe it's just a bunch of CIA bots and that nobody is actually like this, but alas
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I mean, there’s probs a deep state connection, but only cause most people who can afford to give their time and money to Vaush are bored 12-year-olds whose rich parents work for the state department, Google, Meta, etc.
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I wish these nerds could hear themselves.
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live happybadger reaction:
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make Contra return to alcoholism
He lost the support of the gutsy radlibs?
smdh it's joever for anarcho-bidenism
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You have to go pretty far to make me sympathize with Contra, but I guess Vaush is that much of a scumbag
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do we have a dracula flow emote
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Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhaahahhahahahahahaha
Wait, they're serious?
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Jesus christ streaming is literally just high school drama with a million dollar budget huh?
How the fuck do you keep track of all these characters, this is fucking days of our lives if the viewers flattered themselves by acting like they were also the smartest people on earth because they watched the show.
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To be fair, one has to have a high IQ to enjoy Days of Our Lives
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Lolicon. Lmaoicon, even.
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A pedo fed. A fedo you could say.
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Those are the most impressive mental gymnastics I've ever seen.
Just going through a list of all the times he's been caught being a pedo and listing a laughable excuse for every one.
It literally reads like scathing satire of him.
At one point going through the other "non controversies" he refers to the OTHER them he got caught liking cartoon child porn and they said "from her form it was obvious it would be more accurate to call it an adult imagining of the character"
They literally say "it's out of context was our rallying cry"
Knowing nothing abaout any of this outside that post, this seems like a very predictable outcome.
They're complaining because "oh so now people can just point to the ONE TIME he got caught with a massive folder full of pedophilia beastiality"
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From there, we can succinctly reframe his initial points about "cp vs child labor,"
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Vaush likes to argue that CSAM is a form of child labor, so possessing CSAM is morally equivalent to buying a shirt made from a sweatshop. He justifies CSAM possession with "no ethical consumption under capitalism."
If that makes you feel
then you're not alone.-
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If that makes you feel
then you're not alone.It doesn't at all. It makes me feel
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Cw: slurs Hexbear going to vaush’s sub
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I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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even sorting by controversial almost all the comments are defending him...
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As someone who has been sexualised as a child this makes me sick. There is no excuse to watch or support this guy and everyone who does needs some reeducation on how sexualising children is actually harmful to society in every context.
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There never was. There's less now.
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I am calling psyop. The CIA knew he was a nonce so that is why they allowed him to get big. They could ether get him to the island to controll him or hang him out if they wanted.
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I mean, we can factually prove they have taken people out for less. However, this was an unforced error. This just the kinda guy that is likely to get flipped by agencies. They want a guy that is not too sharp. It makes them easier to manipulate
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he has less than half a million subs on YT. i don't think he's relevant enough for the feds to care about
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From the reports of their activities back in cointelpro they spent real hours infiltrating even small local groups. It would fit entirely within the time and resource budget for a desk agent to occasionally look over a his youtube content and have a few bots boost his streams in rankings just in case they wanted to use him later.
Worth noting though that half a mil viership puts him in line with like NBC News most nights. Or if not them plenty of other such entities.
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I feel like he'd be less pro-Palestine if he was an op. Also, why bother? His fans are so lib brained I doubt there was much risk of them becoming actual leftists even without Vaush's help.
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It's perfect that he's pro-palestine while still being pro-nato/pro-west. It's a completely incoherent position if you think about it at all, but his viewers won't. Instead of rejecting him for being anti-palestine and no longer getting the NATO/west propaganda he spews, their belief in his correctness and decency gets confirmed while still funneling pro-west shit into their empty brains.
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Would you expect him to know if he was an op? It wouldn't be like he is getting memos. Some underpaid nsa contractor just adds or subtracts juice from his algorithm the more he stays on brand. He will train himself overtime. Or he won't. Like you said he isn't that important so no big loss if he doesn't develop.
Or it could be some other opp I haven't heared of
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pro-Palestine
aint this the guy who said Bad empanada supports the holocaust because he wanted guaranteed right to return?
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Wouldn't op-Vaush being pro-Palestine be a good thing for zionists since they can use this to discredit pro-Palestinian sentiments? Also from what I heard Vaush is against the red sea blockade so he still falls in 'I support tragic victims but not effective resistance'.
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Imagine going so far out of your way to defend an FBI pedo. Their brains don't have worms their brains are worms
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Good riddance to him and all streamers like him.
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The lolicon shit he had on his PC is literally illegal, sure many avoid prosecution for it through semantic arguments in court, but others have been convicted for this. There are literally laws on the books to arrest this guy for having virtual CSAM on his PC. Maybe these fans should shut up and think about that for 5 seconds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003
Scroll down to the convictions section. People have had to take plea deals and were charged with possession of CSAM for exactly what vaush did
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Some dude got arrested a few months ago for having Simpsons incest porn lmao. Of all the things, I just can’t take this one seriously.
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My knowledge of US law is very limited, but I think it has to do with the Miller Test.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test
- Whether "the average person, applying contemporary community standards", would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,
- Whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions[4] specifically defined by applicable state law,
- Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.[not
If the virtual work depicting minors fulfills all three criteria, it's classified as obscene and in violation of the law. This does allow for quite a bit of semantics and wiggle room in theory. Especially with regards to the last point.
I could be wrong though.
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More on the gigantic pile of confirmation that streamers and the vast majority of their fans (fanboys in the most derisive sense) are garbage.
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"Did you look at the alleged cp" is NOT a good strategy.
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Only barely understand wanting to watch any type of explicit material. Do not understand why you would download it.
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being very careful to specify that "it" refers to "any type of explicit material" generally
sometimes you won't have internet access later, sometimes people delete stuff you like, sometimes hosts delete everything, and sometimes you want to print some out to leave in the woods.
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A good photo viewer is nice and sometimes you see some really good smut that you don't want to spend 30 minutes searching for again.
Of course, all my smut is very lgbtq+ drawn art that's very soft and sweet, the only ethical porn consumption under capitalism.
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lgbtq+ drawn art that's very soft and sweet, the only ethical porn consumption under capitalism.
Finally some good news
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Why does anyone collect anything they like?
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In case the FBI or it's local equivalent has your favorite material taken down, I suppose.
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furry its a regular fuckin horse dude it isnt even like "oh quadruped but intelligent heehoo harkness test" like its JUST a fuckin horse
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jesus that entire post is pathetic. stop creating unhealthy one-sided relationships with people who don't even know you exist online
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These people need Jesus
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These people need gulags
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I agree. The vibe I am getting from reading the comments is that they all accept that "drawn CP is okay since no one was exploited" as a matter of fact though none of them are coming out and saying it outright. It is really cursed. Not to mention that god knows how many of these people are children themselves seeing out they are talking about capital R Respecting Vaush, someone who does nothing but live stream himself being an idiot.
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tronaldodumpo stay winning
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Weren't they a poster here at some point?
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All I remember about him was that he was a mod for a bunch of left wing subreddits and a shitton of redditors hated him.
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add cw please
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Imagine claiming to be a leftist and not being against the US. What the fuck even is their ideology?
Most of his subscribers at this point are "but muh context" apologists. Anyone paying attention has known he's a pedo for years.
Look at them still trying to deny the pedophilia.
Vaushites love to repeat this claim, so here's a list of all the gross pedo shit Vaush has said over the years (all sourced, many of them are videos of him directly saying these things) (copied and cleaned up a little from this 2 year old post).
Why does everyone accuse this streamer who says so much pedo shit of being a pedophile?!
Fascism with free healthcare characteristics
If you combine all of his comments in the CW section, with the fact that he was caught red handed for having virtual lolicon CSAM on his PC, you could build a solid court case against vaush based on just the publicly available evidence. That's not even considering what would happen if the feds data mined his PC. This guy could legitimately end up on probation or house arrest with restricted internet access if anyone decides to initiate legal proceedings against him.
Also admitting to distribution of virtual CSAM is a much more serious offence than just being in possession of it. And if that claim of admitting ownership of that twitter account is correct, vaush could be in serious legal trouble if anyone dares to take him to court over this.
Someone here said that although the word of the law could include drawn csam, the precedent is that they don't prosecute it, they would only prosecute like essentially Photoshops that make an image indistinguishable from csam photography
If the horse images are photorealistic then maybe that would be prosecutable, idk.
Although under obscenity laws, there's no limit to what is illegal, it's just jury opinion basically
There has been a theory that he's been caught, and the FBI has been using him as an informant.
Guy who uses the "no ethical consumption under capitalism" argument to justify pedophilia... no words...
How the fuck can you know about the 21st century so far and think anything else but "America bad"?
Buh b but muh clip chimping!