the meeting of the minds
the meeting of the minds
liberal-to-liberal communication.
crying in the corner where the hexagonal bears cannot see me because my ideas [
] are so good and they don't like thatthe meeting of the minds
liberal-to-liberal communication.
crying in the corner where the hexagonal bears cannot see me because my ideas [
] are so good and they don't like thatnooo you can't just use your party whip that's authoritarian
"The parliamentarian blocking a vote from even happening is completely different though. It's procedure."
I prefer when Representatives elected for gerrymandered districts and Senators (who are explicitly there to counter democracy) prevent the President from doing things that are overwhelmingly popular because the Founders distrusted "the masses". That is True Democracy.
I don't think you can really word it any simpler and shorter than that. That really is just the most base description of the democracy liberals want.
"It's authoritarian to reduce child poverty without considering the feelings of rich people"
Perfect distillation of liberalism, simply don't believe in anything
Just continuously define yourself by an imagined loyalty to a capitalist state that doesn't even know you exist, while you defend the right of monsters to immiserate your fellow citizens and their children
Definition of moral cowards
Authoritarianism is a meaningless term and anyone who uses it immediately outs themselves as politically unserious and at best academically infantile.
Government takes your home to redistribute to the people while ensuring you still have a place to stay: Horrible Authoritarianism
Bank takes your home to redistribute to rich land developers leaving you homeless: Liberal Democracy
I mean their political goal is to destroy the entire system
Oh yeah, just for the fun of it. We just hate everything. What does "destroying the entire system" mean to this person? Because it sounds a lot like the good ol' "Judeo-Bolshevik Asiatic hordes coming to destroy our superior Western culture" talking point.
And what's this talk about us being in bad faith? If libs that came here weren't the most obnoxious terminally online Redditbrained smuglords that refuse to read anything longer than 2 paragraphs of text then people wouldn't be taking the piss on them as much.
"bad faith" just means "anything I don't agree with". It's a thought terminating cliche so they can keep smelling each other's farts and congratulating themselves for having the only good opinions™
Yup saying the democrats aren't virtuous benevolent geniuses is bad faith to these people.
Bad faith would be like "we should enact these specific policies (secret evil policies that will wreak havoc on the institutions) to make America better uwuu"
No I'm telling you to abolish that shit, firebomb your local PD for more Genshin Impact pulls, drain everything in your landlord into their pool
Haven't you considered the precedent? The norms? The rules-based order and the law?
We are not like them, because we don't want children poor. We are also not like them, because we won't step on any toes to accomplish our goals. We are morally superior, and it only cost us some other people's kids having to live in poverty
Haven't you considered the precedent? The norms? The rules-based order and the law?
If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?
if i ever saw a tankie on internet i would scream and scream and my mom would ask whats wrong and id say tankies and then id keep screaming i wouldnt be able to stop
And then your mom would call you a lib
Your mom doesnt?
The Democrats do behave like authoritarians to keep members in line, they just do it to the left flank of the party.
Ohhhhh, that's what they mean by "authoritarian"? Governing?
Weird that they say that we want them to be like "republicans" then, aren't republicans supposed to be all about small government?
Yea it's pretty funny the party of small government is setting up genital inspection checkpoints in high-school locker rooms and the party of big government is constantly explaining why the government doesn't actually have the power to do anything.
Democrats are the party of small government, so small their position seems to be "if you don't like what governments doing why don't you personally do it for us"
They don't like it when the government gets political. We should all just follow the rules laid out to us by God The Founding Fathers. Anything else is blasphemy creating mistrust in The System.
They literally just want vibes based governance where the current system continues to benefit them but like, everybody chills out and is nice to each other.
Expecting anything of your elected representatives is accelerationism. Noted
"oh yeah we'd love to prevent children from starving to death, but one of our friends who hangs out with oil billionaires says we can't, sorry" oh yeah that's a great and sustainable system
I just don't know how much more of this I can handle. Like in life. I'm so sick of lib shit being everywhere. I'm about to throw my phone in a fucking lake and take mushrooms til the end of time.
goddamn theyre so smart and they know so much about how politic works
ok but why even bother having a government if all it can ever feasibly do is write checks for weapons manufacturers and think of creative ways to coerce poor people to work harder?
Republicans: Fuck impoverished children. They should work at Wendy's and pull themselves up by the bootstraps
Democrats: Child poverty is bad but we are not going to end it because that would be authoritarian. I am a good person. Please pat me on the back
The libs are infinitely more annoying. Chuds are at least honest about being worthless shitheads
Yup republicans say they're going to do fascism and then they do it as hard as they can.
Democrats say you have to vote for them because they're the only people that can stop fascism and then they lecture you on why you're unreasonable for expecting them to do anything to stop fascism and blame you for the fascists.
And then say actually you support the fascists because you're not enthusiastic enough about voting for them.
Ha ha yeah i would hate to destroy the political system with all of y'all
we'd like to replace childhood poverty and undernourishment with something far far more sinister: rich people paying any taxes whatsoever
Democrats cannot function as a party because they think politics is about a beautiful tapestry people adding their own unique personality traits to the legislative process. It's a party. It is supposed to be an organization with explicit goals, where the members work to achieve those goals. If it cannot function on that level, it is not a party. What are people voting for then? What is a democracy then? Pointing out that a party should have legislative goals and try to achieve them is what gets you called a tankie these days. And the republicans? Yeah, you guess it, they're tankies. Because they can always get their tax cuts through congress. To these people, the most virtuous thing you can do is be very aware of how fucked everything is getting and refuse to violate the autonomy of Joe Manchin so you can get something through congress. It shows how committed you are to democracy, when you know exactly how many homeless people there are but still defer to Joe Manchin's policy preferences. We are all very very aware of climate change and how it's an existential threat, but it would be authoritarian to do something about it without Joe Manchin's permission.
It would be authoritarian to stop the republicans from oppressing women and minorities!
Thinking we don't support democrats = we support republicans. I'm honestly going to get mad. Can I make it clear? Those vile pieces of shit, those misanthropic fucking demons you call "republicans" can all go choke on a fucking gun barrel. I hate them and I wish the absolute worst for them. The only, and I repeat the only reason democrats get away with their shit is because they are slightly better. The word "slightly" is doing a lot of leg work here.
Yes we intend to destroy the entire system. Why the fuck would we uphold it? A system that has different outcomes based on skin tone? A system that silences women? Fuck that. And fuck anyone that defends it.
And if you don’t vote for Trump, you support the Democrats
Using government powers to end child poverty = authoritarian dystopia
Telling someone to do their job is authoritarian
Being not-like-the-republicans is when you let a republican decide all your votes
So the only reason they posted bait was to block people on our instance?
As opposed to us who constantly harass other instances by ..... commenting on front page posts.
The difference here between the normal baby brained takes and this one is that it’s on purpose
democrats should become like republicans by effectively seeking to achieve the promises they made to voters
behave like authoritarians to keep members in line
I believe it was Voltaire who once said that democratic centralism is neither democratic nor centralism
Isn't the party whip part of the Democratic process in America too? But thats authoritarian now?
what a bunch of dorks
If it gets the job done, then I am absolutely an incredibly huge authoritarian. The system is a mallet to swing at the world’s ills
authoritarianism is when your political party organizes collectively towards a political goal instead of just existing as a launchpad for careers.
Those posters are just "let me roleplay as a good person and stop breaking my immersion".
It isn't civility fetishism, but subordination to power that these people worship. And hexbear is blasphemous.
excuse me tankies, but you have to be polite when discussing the bureaucrats who are enforcing child poverty. you can't post pictures of guillotines, that's not polite. You have to instead say nice things about Democrats and then do nothing. You want to change things so there's no child poverty? Why, that's not good faith!
I don't know anything about this bill but anyone who supports child poverty doesn't deserve the right to life, much less "voting their conscience," or whatever
"nature truly is incredible. the communist is, without any context whatsoever, capable of intuitively finding the morally correct path. scientists believe this behavior originates in a part of the brain known as 'fidel's organ'"
Maybe if Democrats wanted the things they fundraise on, they would deal with members of their party who act to prevent those things.
But what do I know? I'm just acting in bad faith when I think politicians who won their elections on promising healthcare should then provide that healthcare.
man they are just jerking each other off as hard as possible
Destroying the entire system by demanding the maintenance of government welfare policies that measurably reduced child poverty immediately.
I aspire to take a shit on the original copy of the US constitution.
Inshallah
Making Nick Cage dig through my shit is a bit of a
moment for me admittedly, but it must be done."The people who want to put republicans up against a wall are actually most closely aligned with republicans, because both groups dislike me personally, which means they're the same." Just terminal "with me or against me" brain. Everything that isn't a smug liberal is a secret fascist 📽
Go get yourself blocked. All I had to do was ask. And now I can say anything without them whining about it.
They want to replace our beautiful, faultless institutions. Who could distrust our institution? Don't they know how good they are? :(
And they worshipped the institutions saying unto them, "who is like our institutions, who can make war with them?!" The Book of Lib 5: 38
Plugging your ears and shouting "lalalala I can't hear you" when presented with the fact that electoralism (and specifically the American variety) has flaws and maybe the government should do some governing because you were told the system works as a kid and you saw Hamilton once.
Obviously results don't matter, a million dead kids is a sacrifice they're willing to make. Doing It The Right Way ™ to adhere to the vision of some long dead slave owners is more important than improving the lives that exist today.
democrats shouldn't "become authoritarians," they're already authoritarians. They have massive party discipline. Manchin "spoiling" that vote was what the party bosses wanted and could have predicted anyway. They just put on a performance that they wanted the opposite because they conceal their aims, which is to please their donors, and also please themselves, since most of them hold stock in the same private interests that their donors do. democrats and republicans should both be liquidated as they are the bipartisan wings of the bourgeois class dictatorship. They should be removed from authority and replaced with a proletarian class dictatorship. Why? because the alternatives to seizing power are utopian wishful thinking. You aren't going to reform your way out of this.
A little math here...if Democrats aren't acting like Republicans then how do we keep getting so many Republicans in power? Like how is not acting like Republicans working out for Democrats? Obamacare has been torn apart. There's no action on climate change other than lessening the amount of permits to drill. We're not safer than ever from the worst Republicans. The worst person in the world was just President before Biden. So what gives? How does not keeping the party in line help us? What are we preserving if Trump can be President? Okay our anti-authoritarianism is intact. But we keep getting authoritarians...
You ever just think about stuff like that? Put the things you think on trial and see how they worked out in actual history? You ever go outside and look around and try to apply what you think to the real world?
This is how these privileged fucks discuss child poverty. Absolute monsters.
Evil hexbears want to do an authoritarianism to checks notes end child poverty
What do they imagine our authoritarianism looks like? How many people do they think we would put to death?
The government should never do anything ever