the meeting of the minds

This is how these privileged fucks discuss child poverty. Absolute monsters.

nooo you can't just use your party whip that's authoritarian

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"It's authoritarian to reduce child poverty without considering the feelings of rich people"

Perfect distillation of liberalism, simply don't believe in anything

Just continuously define yourself by an imagined loyalty to a capitalist state that doesn't even know you exist, while you defend the right of monsters to immiserate your fellow citizens and their children

Definition of moral cowards

I mean their political goal is to destroy the entire system

Oh yeah, just for the fun of it. We just hate everything. What does "destroying the entire system" mean to this person? Because it sounds a lot like the good ol' "Judeo-Bolshevik Asiatic hordes coming to destroy our superior Western culture" talking point.

And what's this talk about us being in bad faith? If libs that came here weren't the most obnoxious terminally online Redditbrained smuglords that refuse to read anything longer than 2 paragraphs of text then people wouldn't be taking the piss on them as much.

Haven't you considered the precedent? The norms? The rules-based order and the law?

We are not like them, because we don't want children poor. We are also not like them, because we won't step on any toes to accomplish our goals. We are morally superior, and it only cost us some other people's kids having to live in poverty

if i ever saw a tankie on internet i would scream and scream and my mom would ask whats wrong and id say tankies and then id keep screaming i wouldnt be able to stop

The Democrats do behave like authoritarians to keep members in line, they just do it to the left flank of the party.

Ohhhhh, that's what they mean by "authoritarian"? Governing?

Expecting anything of your elected representatives is accelerationism. Noted

I just don't know how much more of this I can handle. Like in life. I'm so sick of lib shit being everywhere. I'm about to throw my phone in a fucking lake and take mushrooms til the end of time.

goddamn theyre so smart and they know so much about how politic works

ok but why even bother having a government if all it can ever feasibly do is write checks for weapons manufacturers and think of creative ways to coerce poor people to work harder?

Republicans: Fuck impoverished children. They should work at Wendy's and pull themselves up by the bootstraps

Democrats: Child poverty is bad but we are not going to end it because that would be authoritarian. I am a good person. Please pat me on the back

The libs are infinitely more annoying. Chuds are at least honest about being worthless shitheads

Ha ha yeah i would hate to destroy the political system with all of y'all

we'd like to replace childhood poverty and undernourishment with something far far more sinister: rich people paying any taxes whatsoever

Democrats cannot function as a party because they think politics is about a beautiful tapestry people adding their own unique personality traits to the legislative process. It's a party. It is supposed to be an organization with explicit goals, where the members work to achieve those goals. If it cannot function on that level, it is not a party. What are people voting for then? What is a democracy then? Pointing out that a party should have legislative goals and try to achieve them is what gets you called a tankie these days. And the republicans? Yeah, you guess it, they're tankies. Because they can always get their tax cuts through congress. To these people, the most virtuous thing you can do is be very aware of how fucked everything is getting and refuse to violate the autonomy of Joe Manchin so you can get something through congress. It shows how committed you are to democracy, when you know exactly how many homeless people there are but still defer to Joe Manchin's policy preferences. We are all very very aware of climate change and how it's an existential threat, but it would be authoritarian to do something about it without Joe Manchin's permission.

It would be authoritarian to stop the republicans from oppressing women and minorities!

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Thinking we don't support democrats = we support republicans. I'm honestly going to get mad. Can I make it clear? Those vile pieces of shit, those misanthropic fucking demons you call "republicans" can all go choke on a fucking gun barrel. I hate them and I wish the absolute worst for them. The only, and I repeat the only reason democrats get away with their shit is because they are slightly better. The word "slightly" is doing a lot of leg work here.

Yes we intend to destroy the entire system. Why the fuck would we uphold it? A system that has different outcomes based on skin tone? A system that silences women? Fuck that. And fuck anyone that defends it.

Using government powers to end child poverty = authoritarian dystopia

Being not-like-the-republicans is when you let a republican decide all your votes

So the only reason they posted bait was to block people on our instance?

democrats should become like republicans by effectively seeking to achieve the promises they made to voters

behave like authoritarians to keep members in line

I believe it was Voltaire who once said that democratic centralism is neither democratic nor centralism

what a bunch of dorks

If it gets the job done, then I am absolutely an incredibly huge authoritarian. The system is a mallet to swing at the world’s ills

Those posters are just "let me roleplay as a good person and stop breaking my immersion".

It isn't civility fetishism, but subordination to power that these people worship. And hexbear is blasphemous.

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excuse me tankies, but you have to be polite when discussing the bureaucrats who are enforcing child poverty. you can't post pictures of guillotines, that's not polite. You have to instead say nice things about Democrats and then do nothing. You want to change things so there's no child poverty? Why, that's not good faith!

I don't know anything about this bill but anyone who supports child poverty doesn't deserve the right to life, much less "voting their conscience," or whatever

Maybe if Democrats wanted the things they fundraise on, they would deal with members of their party who act to prevent those things.

But what do I know? I'm just acting in bad faith when I think politicians who won their elections on promising healthcare should then provide that healthcare.

man they are just jerking each other off as hard as possible

Destroying the entire system by demanding the maintenance of government welfare policies that measurably reduced child poverty immediately.

I aspire to take a shit on the original copy of the US constitution.

"The people who want to put republicans up against a wall are actually most closely aligned with republicans, because both groups dislike me personally, which means they're the same." Just terminal "with me or against me" brain. Everything that isn't a smug liberal is a secret fascist 📽

Go get yourself blocked. All I had to do was ask. And now I can say anything without them whining about it.

They want to replace our beautiful, faultless institutions. Who could distrust our institution? Don't they know how good they are? :(

Plugging your ears and shouting "lalalala I can't hear you" when presented with the fact that electoralism (and specifically the American variety) has flaws and maybe the government should do some governing because you were told the system works as a kid and you saw Hamilton once.

Obviously results don't matter, a million dead kids is a sacrifice they're willing to make. Doing It The Right Way ™ to adhere to the vision of some long dead slave owners is more important than improving the lives that exist today.

democrats shouldn't "become authoritarians," they're already authoritarians. They have massive party discipline. Manchin "spoiling" that vote was what the party bosses wanted and could have predicted anyway. They just put on a performance that they wanted the opposite because they conceal their aims, which is to please their donors, and also please themselves, since most of them hold stock in the same private interests that their donors do. democrats and republicans should both be liquidated as they are the bipartisan wings of the bourgeois class dictatorship. They should be removed from authority and replaced with a proletarian class dictatorship. Why? because the alternatives to seizing power are utopian wishful thinking. You aren't going to reform your way out of this.

A little math here...if Democrats aren't acting like Republicans then how do we keep getting so many Republicans in power? Like how is not acting like Republicans working out for Democrats? Obamacare has been torn apart. There's no action on climate change other than lessening the amount of permits to drill. We're not safer than ever from the worst Republicans. The worst person in the world was just President before Biden. So what gives? How does not keeping the party in line help us? What are we preserving if Trump can be President? Okay our anti-authoritarianism is intact. But we keep getting authoritarians...

You ever just think about stuff like that? Put the things you think on trial and see how they worked out in actual history? You ever go outside and look around and try to apply what you think to the real world?