Apple plans to charge fees for sideloading

Top comment by Chris (@SwiftySanders@urbanists.social) Liked by 7 people

I think all these changes that the EU is doing really only benefit large development firms like Spotify and Epic at the expense of the smaller developers. EU is adding additional regulations and requirements from Apple which smaller developers and indie developers will now have to comply with which will act as barriers to entry for some. That’s bad for competition…which I think was ultimately the goal for Epic and Spotify.

I love this braindead take regurgitated again and again and again. The DMA specifically does not apply to anyone smaller than a big monopolistic company. Apple barely made the cut themselves. The whole regulation is about forcing six companies - the Act only applies to them at all - to open up their walled gardens because they are strangling their respective markets and killing innovation, consumer choice and competition.

That is hilarious that they expect iOS users to pay a fee to sideload apps. Like comically evil.
- I don't pay anything to side load apps on my phone.
  Probably bc I switched to Android.:-)
  And I am never ever going back!
- It's not the users they're charging, it's the developers. Instead of having to pay 30%, they're asking for 27% if they're selling their app side loaded.
  Defeating the whole purpose.
- This was how it worked for years for developers. First step of testing your app on an iOS device you have is to pay Apple a developer fee. This has been a thing even back in iOS 3 times.
- But not at all surprising.
The only way it could work out badly for smaller software developers is if companies like Apple decide to recover their losses by charging heavily for development tools and resources.
If they can’t have walls around app distribution they might try and put them around app development instead.
- They've been doing that since the beginning. You need a "developer license" in order to publish an app. Back in the day it was like $50 a year I think, but I haven't done ios dev in about a decade so I don't know if that's changed.
- App developers add value to their platform, any wall erected there would be torn down in moments. It would be biting the hand that feeds
You are both correct. They do stop things that would be ok, on say, a windows machine. For example, intercepting text messages at the system level. It prevents a lot of mischief but also stops legitimate software.
But we can already look at the Android market for guidance on what will happen. Few Android users venture out of the official store. It will take a large company with must-have apps to get people to go to another marketplace. Like Steam, Epic, or Facebook. Companies that either want to keep their cut or want to collect data to sell. This will likely not matter at all for small developers. They don’t have the clout.
- There is this god-tier unofficial store called f-droid. Installing app from there is always a joy
- There is one aspect people don't really talk about yet, because it is not just about "allowing sideloading". The law says "no self-preferencing". That means that installing an app from for example F-Droid has to take the exact same amount of taps with the exact same UX as installing something from Google Play. Same goes for the App Store. The point is not to allow sideloading, but to erase the word sideloading from the vocabulary of the platform and make it just like Windows in that regard.
  This is not just bringing iOS to where Android is, Android is still not compliant yet either. Neither is Windows by the way, because of how they treat Edge.
To be exact, DMA applies to platforms with >45M users in EU
- Not even just that, you have to have at least 7.5B EUR turnover or 75B EUR market cap, AND 45M end users AND 10k business users AND keep this up for 3 years.
  And even then it's not automatic, you get nominated and get arguments, and only then you have to follow it.
  I mentioned the six companies because they are the only ones that this currently applies to, and that will be the case for the foreseeable future as well. And even from them, it's specific products. MacOS is not in scope for example, despite iOS being scoped in.
I had a user on here tell me the DMA is proof that Valve can't be considered to be in a position of monopoly with Steam because they don't show up on the list of companies concerned... People don't understand what the DMA is at all.
@maynarkh @jvrava9 Its always brain dead when you don't agree. regulations have consequences positive and negative. People think you can just add these regulations in a vacuum and there won't be any follow on effects which is delusional.
- Least neoliberal new urbanist
- It's brain dead because it's a kneejerk response without anything backing it up.
  EU regulations have a massive positive day-to-day effect on my life. It's not like they get everything right, but on the grand scale, it's working better than any other regulatory system I know.

Sent from an iPhone
Why? Just get Android. Plenty of choices.
it sounds like tying your shoes probably makes your life difficult
Why? What have they done to you? If you don’t like their products, simply don’t buy them.
- Apple has made a lot of anti-consumer decisions. And since Apple is a big market force, other companies follow suite when they pull off shit like that. There is a legitimate reason to not like Apple.
- It’s not that simple.
  Blue chat boxes affect everyone. RCS is a stepping stone but my daughter wouldn’t be caught dead with a green chat box. Tell me how that isn’t Apple using their dominance to prevent other players?
  FaceTime (which they PROMISED to open up but never did) affects everyone.
Show me on the doll where Apple touched you.
- Does that doll have a wallet?

Who would’ve thought? This isn’t going to fly with the EU.
Article 5.3 of the Digital Markets Act (DMA): “The gatekeeper shall not prevent business users from offering the same products or services to end users through third-party online intermediation services or through their own direct online sales channel at prices or conditions that are different from those offered through the online intermediation services of the gatekeeper.”

Apple has an annual legal budget of approximately infinity dollars. I assure you they are aware of this and they believe they are in compliance, even if just barely.

If challenged, they will have no problem fighting it — they have nearly as much cash on hand as the entire EU budget.

I hope the EU challenges this, and I hope the EU wins, but Apple isn’t going to be surprised by whatever happens.

The fine would be approximately 10% of Apple's total revenue and the fine increases by 10% every violoation so I doubt that Apple can not accept the regulations.
- Unfortunately, Apple has the resources, both legal and financial, to tie that up in the EU courts for decades.
Apple has also been known to ignore laws and pay fines for breaking them. The store is a major revenue stream so they might just do that.
- Yup. If the only penalty is a fine, and that fine doesn’t scale to the business’ profits? A profitable enough business could simply factor in the fines as a cost of doing business.
  Imagine you could make $1000 and only get fined $200 after the fact. No extra penalties. Just a flat $200 fine for every time you violate it. So as long as you expect to be able to top that $200 fine, a business will elect to just pay the fine and continue doing the illegal thing.
There's the letter and there's the spirit of the law. Even if Apple has found a brilliant loophole the courts can just say well it's technically true but you're still breaking the law nonetheless, lawyer budget be damned.
- The EU court is a Roman court, not an Anglo Saxon court. The spirit of the law is what matters, not the technicalities.
  Second, the EU can change the laws that create the outcome they don’t like. By the people, for the people. Apple will play within the EU’s rules or Apple won’t play in the EU.
I sure do love how global justice comes down to which party has more money to piss away rather than what's right or wrong.
Yup. I'm just gonna sip this coffee while it all burns down.
They will get free publicity and show the users how they stand up to the overreaching government. Their users will eat it up.

I‘d be really surprised if Apple tried that.

They have to know that it violates the DMA. And the penalty for violating it can be up to 10% of their yearly worldwide revenue (not earnings!) for the first violation and up to 20% for repeated violations. I don‘t think they‘d risk that, especially as the EU really isn’t known for its leniency when someone intentionally breaks their rules.

Velociraptors testing the fence. It may be illegal but they may get away with it if they can argue "no actually'
On the positive side, those fines could fix the finances of a few smaller EU countries in a single sweep.
- ...true
I'm not too sure that these actions violate the letter of the law here, even though I agree that they're 100% in violation of the spirit of the law.
It's been some years since I've put the mobile development world behind me, in no small part because of Apple's shenanigans, but the way I understand how this might work - Apple may be required to allow "iOS software" to be installed from third party stores, but software that runs on iOS must either be signed using a certificate that only allows installation in a developer or enterprise context (which require explicit and obvious user consent to that specific use case, and come with other restrictions such as the installation only lasting for a limited period of time), or through an "appstore" certificate that allows installation on any device, but the actual application package will need to go through Apple's pipeline (where I believe it gets re-signed before final distribution on the App Store). All certificates, not just the appstore ones, are centrally managed by Apple and they do have the power to revoke, or refuse to renew, any of those certificates at-will.
If my understanding is correct (I'd appreciate if any up-to-date iOS devs could fact-check me), then Apple could introduce or maintain any restrictions they please on handling this final signing step, even if at the end of the day the resulting software is being handed back to developers to self-distribute, they can just refuse to sign the package at all, preventing installation on most consumer iOS devices, and to refuse to re-issue certificates to specific Apple developer accounts they deem in violation of their expected behavior. I haven't read the implementation of the DMA in detail, nor am I a lawyer, so I'm not sure if there are provisions in place that would block either of these actions from Apple, but I do expect that there will be a long game of cat and mouse here as Apple and the EU continue to try and one-up the other's actions.
- But the article of the DMA says that the gatekeeper shall not prevent the business user to serve their product using other conditions than those of the gatekeeper's platform. I think that would include Apple's publishing guidelines.
- Your description matches my understanding of the process (as someone who left iOS development a few years ago).
  I don’t think that the DMA is technical enough to differentiate in this precise manner. Keep in mind that it was written by lawmakers and politicians who mostly don’t know how to even use a smartphone. They'd think that a certificate is a piece of paper with fancy signatures on it.
- I could be wrong on this, and don’t know all the details in the case, but EU-law is often interpreted teleologically, meaning in a way that is the most in accordance with the objectives and goals of the legislation. So in this case, if Apple is in violation of the spirit of the law, the EU Courts would likely rule against Apple. (source: 1st year law student)

Those who buy apple products deserve each other.

Exactly my thoughts. "Let's jailbreak this, bypass that, circumvent that one thing..." Why do you subject yourself to this with a device you paid hundreds of dollars for?
As much as I'd like to have an iPhone, I'd rather not.
As an aside, it's the same thing with game consoles. Is the whole "you must be connected to the internet" thing still happening? That's what has been preventing me from getting a new xbox, for example.
- Steam Deck is pretty awesome in the offline gaming regard, if that's what you might be looking for.
- I remember way back when I had my iPod Touch 4 (haven't touched Apple since then) that I (intentionally) jailbroke it simply by tapping a button on a website in Safari. It was an exploit that used a bug in iOS's PDF software, I believe.
I have a macbook and I'm quite happy, what am I doing wrong?
- Honestly? Nothing. People just say this kind of thing because we like to tinker with our devices. If what you bought satisfies your needs and you don't need more, that's just ok. Android/windows/linux has a lot more conveniences for my use, so that's what I go for, but not everyone is the same
- A MacBook is the only Apple product I'm happy with cause it's actually open in terms of being able to install any app I want and modify some things like how windows are managed.
- Come back when you have a problem with your keyboard*, or your drive, or charging issue. Repairability is downright bad now.
  I like OSX well enough.* I like the form factor of the MacBooks now that they have escape keys again. It's been 9 years since they made a MacBook that was reasonably decent to work on from the inside though. Even swapping a broken screen out is* like 3 hours now.
- There are 3 kind of people when talking about Apple: 1- fanatics who support Apple, 2-fanatics who hate Apple and think you cannot like it, 3- and finally those who just look at the product without thinking about the brand but what you can do with the product (if it suits your needs or not). It seems like you are that third kind of person.
- You're supporting manipulative evil business practices.
but apple sets "standards" that other companies blindly follow. it's the reason why we have non-removable batteries, no charger inside the box, no audio jack, etc.

I will never switch to iOS until they allow both sideloading and other browser engines.
I hate that I buy my phone from a shitty advertising company like Google but atleast they don't treat me like a child and let me use my universal turing machine universally.
- Saw an article just today about Apple allowing other browser ~~renserinenfijes~~ wtf autocorrect, I typed engines, but only in the EU.
  OK, so how do I make iOS think it's in the EU then?
- Support small refurbishing shops online and buy your phone used from them, and put Linux or another Android fork such as Calyxos or Graphene on them. Works great for me.

IOS is the worst operating system i have ever used

Why do people buy it?

Because it's familiar, easy, pretty and does a lot of thinking for you.
- Familiar only if you worked with it before.
  Easy... fair enough.
  Pretty... debatable.
  Apple established itself as a luxury brand. So it gives customers this "prestige feeling". That's at least my take.
Because it's a brand and people are morons who need external validation. Same reason for most brands - you pay a lot more for the same thing so you can seem cool or like you have money.
Because it's cool apparently.
- It's cool because it is expensive so it is a status symbol. Just like wearing expensive jewelry is cool.
  I don't need people to think I'm cook if that is their criteria.
Have you actually sat down and used iOS as your full time phone OS for a week? If you're used to android then yes there's quirks you have to learn. But after being a diehard android user for years I could never go back. And that's that I still use both every day since my work phone is Android and my person phone is an iPhone.
- I just can't not have a back button that's always in the same place!
- iOS always felt slower tbh. Like it takes an extra step or two to do similar tasks. That and I love sideloading, rooting, and putting my homescreen apps towards the bottom too much to ever fully switch over.
- I chose Apple for my work phone for only one reason: battery life. It is a wildly inferior experience for anyone who wants or needs more than just a phone. The way I have to send photos and documents through other services just to get them to my computer, the utter lack of control of the phone's file system, no sideloading...
  If for any reason what you need can't or won't work through the Apple ecosystem, iPhones go from feeling pretty smooth to being an obstacle, and I'm not paying $1000+ for an obstacle.
- I use iOS every day.
  It SUCKS.
  If all you want to do are the things Apple decides you can do, and want to do things only Apple's way, it's great.
  I choose Apple phones for my work phone, since it's managed by the company anyway, so even an Android would be locked down. And it's not like I would use a corp phone for the things I do with my personal phone - there's too much risk in that.
  Apple won't even allow apps to sync photos automatically. I don't want to use their cloud, at all. I just want photos I take synced between my devices using a single tool. No reason for those photos to go anywhere else.
  Currently I sync files, automatically, between a dozen devices. All my photos from every laptop and Android phone go to the same folder on one machine. Anything I download with any device is available, almost immediately, for all other devices.
  Except for my iOS devices. They can't play in this game, even though the same apps are available on iOS.
I wanted a fast laptop without a fan and with a big haptic feedback touchpad. Happy to hear about non-Apple options for this.
- Think you might have confused iOS and MacOS
- These are fascinating requirements. Mind explaining?
Privacy and security mostly I would imagine
- Closed source software can't be audited, so it can't be secure. If software isn't secure, the exploits rid it of any privacy.
  See: The bimonthly remote takeover bugs that keep getting found. Like this one: https://citizenlab.ca/2023/09/blastpass-nso-group-iphone-zero-click-zero-day-exploit-captured-in-the-wild/
  "Oh whoopsy doopsy, looks like your iPhone, camera, files, GPS and more were accessible to someone who sent you an iMessage.. for the third time this year"
lol this is such a weird blanket statement that means nothing. congratulations, you can baselessly slam something you don't like. Why are you the way you are, is the better question. iOS has clear benefits and there are a plethora of reasons of why one would choose an iPhone over the other options.
but GO OFF, random internet pleb.

I refuse to ever use a single Apple product.

I can't say I am surprised. Apples view is that since they made the device and provided the software they are entitled to a cut of anything that happens on it, because that software makes use of something Apple created.

I don't agree and think it is a crazy view. But that sort of corporate mindset is one of the reasons I have never been big on Apple products.

I think it is not open source so they feel like they control everything about that. The EU seems like it disagrees with that.
Apples view
So, these companies will throw whatever shit at a wall to see what sticks.
Their "view" is constantly probing how low people's standards are so they can do the least while charging the most.
It's called "maximizing profit."

So… frontloading?

Apple is doing this thing where legislation applies to them and they just try not following it anyway. Trump is truly influential.

Ownloading

Yeah, I mean or you could just stop buying Apple products.

My rationale is this: apple users love spending money, so they can go ahead and spend it.
Fuck'em.
- I’m an Apple laptop user with a Linux server. I love Linux and have thought about switching many times, but I don’t for the following reasons:
  My Apple computers have lasted me twice as long as any other brand I’ve owned, and they don’t really die—they just get so old that I want a new one.
  I never have to worry about incompatible hardware at any time, nor do I have to check for compatibility before upgrading my OS.
  They never charge for a new OS, all of their basic software is free, and in some cases better than Microsoft Office.
  Whatever product I use from them, it is definitely going to feel high quality.
  The screens are always really nice, and everything is guaranteed to look crisp and clear.
  They cost more money, but it isn’t like they give you nothing for it. If Linux isn’t a great option for some reason, an Apple device is going to be much less exploitative with advertising and spyware than Windows is.
  I understand where the hate comes from, but I wish some Apple haters would back up for a minute and realize that there are power users who have perfectly good reasons to like that hardware.
- People like being fucked
As counter point, this law also prevents Google and Microsoft from going this route.
So as a non apple user, this helps us in the long run.

Classic Apple.

Remember their slogan from back then? "does more, costs less!"
Classic.
Just like when google silently removed their slogan "don't be evil".
- Just like when google silently removed their slogan “don’t be evil”.
  They didn't just remove it, they changed it to "do good". I'm not sure what that means to Google but it sort of looks like "implement the neoliberal cyberpunk hellscape no one asked for"

of course Apple plans to charge fees for sideloading, a bunch of scumbags, but fear not, Apple fan boys cult members will regurgitate Apple's propaganda as gospel

Already happening, just look at some comments
- The fanboys make me angrier than Apple. It’s so frustrating to discuss something with someone who is so brainwashed.

Friendly reminder that you can sideload apps without jailbreaking or paying for a dev account using TrollStore, which utilises core trust bugs to bypass/spoof some app validation keys, on a iPhone XR or newer on iOS 14.0 up to 16.6.1. (ANY version for iPhone X and older)

Install guide: Trollstore

Another alternative is SideStore which allows to refresh apps from your phone without a computer. Just a WiFi connection. It has the benefit of working with any ios versions including the latest ones that TrollStore doesn’t support.
- Yep, its a better AltStore so only 3 apps unless you are vunerable to MDC. For those without a pc, paying for a signing service like maplesign is an option too.

As someone who uses both Android and iOS, I appreciate my Pixel 8 Pro running GrapheneOS (a custom version of Android) more and more.

Do you face recognition or use a password? I can't get passed pixel 3 for fingerprinting and even that cuz I can manually lock off the truely unstrustable method fingerprinting. That but not well enough. I honestly despise the gorramn pixel and can't wait til my Librem gets useable.
- I use the fingerprint sensor. Don't get a Librem, it's a scam and security on it is a disaster. Stick with GrapheneOS. Heck, stock is more secure than the Librem, believe it or not. I wouldn't touch that thing with a 10ft pole.
This is a rather specific question, but can you cast audio from arbitrary apps to WiFi speakers from your Pixel? Similar to airplay on iOS (if that's what it is called)?
- Via Chromecast if the speaker supports it yeah
Exactly the same here P8P gOS and using an iPhone as a testing device (Jailbreaking etc)

I’m not sure how this would work in practice. Developers distributing apps independently to be sideloaded wouldn’t be submitting them to Apple to review, and sideloaded code may not even have an identifiable developer to charge.

I suppose Apple could implement some sort of rigid signing system, but I think the EU would see that as just another abuse of power.

As far as I know iPhones have never allowed unsigned code to run.
- Yeah, the first operation of every jailbreak was to disable this protection.
- Well they would have to allow unsigned code to run under the DMA, wouldn't they?

Because of course they are! There goes my plan to try an iPhone when side loading becomes available.

It’ll only be available in the EU.
Why do you want an iPhone?
- I know Apple hate party in here but as a person with a bunch of self built PCs couple Linux boxes…
  iPhones are great. No messing around, way more private than stock Google, and they work for… well, I’m on five years with mine. Still gets updates too!
- They have great build quality and software, it's a shame Apple has some terrible policies about their ecosystem and repairabilty of their devices, wasting the hard work of so many if their brilliant engineers by being greedy.

It's hard to imagine people who buy iPhones care about sideloading. Their priority is the convenience of iMessage and the Apple ecosystem.

I care about sideloading and imessage. If imessage was available on android, I would be using a pixel at the moment. It's just that I am from the US but don't live their. So imessage is the easiest way for me to be in touch with 99% of the people I know.
The convenience of... texting?
Lol. Sometimes I feel you ppl just regurgitate what you've seen before without realizing it.
- The texting thing seems to be something real in the USA.

Crapple

Sorry, can't be bothered with whatever issue this is.

I'm busy shopping for a North Face tent so I'll have it to camp in the next time a new ear pod case gets released.

For the hate-cult members circle-jerking over imaginary arguments with “fan boys” here. Actual Apple users either completely agree with the criticism, or simply don’t even care.

Feel free to hate on Apple the company, but stop trying so hard to make this place a home for baseless toxicity.

Edit: And just to drive home how pathetic this is, here’s a link to an article posted elsewhere in the fediverse about Google being shady af. Go look through those comments for a single soul saying anything about “Google/Android fanboys”.

What is this gaslighting you're trying to pull here? You're really going to pretend that Apple fanboys don't exist and instead start criticising some sort of perceived toxicity from a "hate cult" against Apple? That's before you get into some bizarre Google strawman. The reality is that these Apple fanboys with values antithetical to software freedom exist, and want walled gardens everywhere.
- What purpose would there be in gaslighting something like this out of nowhere? Genuine question.
  If you want to see examples of baseless vitriol directed at apple users, just keep reading the rest of the replies to OP's post.
  The reality is that these Apple fanboys with values antithetical to software freedom exist,
  Sure, just like anywhere else. You can't point your finger exclusively at the apple camp for that.
  and want walled gardens everywhere.
  Speaking of staw men...
  Some apple users prefer apple's walled garden, sure, but they're not going around saying Google, Windows or Linux must be walled as well.
If they actually hated it, I doubt they'd be on a platform that restricted side loading in the first place. This feels strongly of "no true scotsman" fallacy.
- FWIW, I would prefer to use iOS, but instead use GrapheneOS (ungoogled android) specifically because I want sideloading.
Go look through those comments for a single soul saying anything about “Google fanboys”.
I mean, I agree with your sentiment, but I don't think there have been actual "Google Fanboys" in like 10 years or so, whereas there are some real fans of Apple products and often they have good reasons to be a fan.
Apple has some shitty business practices sure, but they also produce the last consumer-level Certified UNIX machines you can easily get.
So I guess my point is Apple "fanboys" still exist because there's some valid things to be fans for in regards to Apple. (Their new in-house CPUs aren't too shabby either)
I can't think of a single thing that Google has done in ten years that has generated tech community enthusiasm or was interesting enough for anyone to fanboy over. No, they've mostly just killed all the products people liked during that time.
I mean fuck Google+ came out in 2011 and that was the beginning of the end of people giving a shit about Google.
So while I get what you're saying, I think the reality is that Google Fanboys simply stopped existing and Apple "fanboys" are probably less absurd than people make them out to be. The only Apple "fanboy" I know is a Linux Guru who uses Apple products to record music.
- The point I’m going for is that I never see such levels of spite and toxicity directed at users of other platforms, be it Android, windows, Linux or whatever.
  (Which is good, because that would be just as absurd as it is when directed at Apple users.)

EU, I belive in you!

I suppose they can charge to use their own side-loading software, or their alternative app store, but I'm not sure what happens if a third party offers a side-loading platform that doesn't pay Apple.

I suppose they can just refuse to allow such platforms to exist, but the EU may not feels that satisfies their grievances. Eventually they're going to have to require side-loading.

Did Tim Cook have a bad trip or something? Apple normally isn’t this blatantly shitty.

Apple normally isn’t this blatantly shitty.
(¬_¬ ) Dude, you been living under a rock?
- No
They're always this shitty, the difference is that usually they can just throw enough money at politicians to get their way at the government level so their shit just stinks behind closed doors. But for one shining moment a government that matters actually told them "no" so they have no choice but to be shitty in public instead. Well, I mean they could choose to not be anti-consumer and forgo some of the obscene profits they extract from their users but then they wouldn't be Apple.
- Makes sense

Yes, well, the whole point is that them following the law means that their assistance warranting fees (like running a store) isn't required. So I hope they get nailed.

And Apples file system sucks

What? APFS is fantastic. That’s not really disputed.
Its restricted af, some people in my class don't even know what a folder is because of their iPhones (gen z for context)
- The file system has nothing to do with folders not being as accessible in the UI as in the past.
- What if they use tag based file system?

I'd love to see an apple cuck try and explain this

Apple is protecting the end user. Through charging a fee apple ensures the end user is really sure they want to sideload the app. This both creates more free storage space and helps the user sideload only the best applications... I'm still working on my corporate speech but that's what I'd imagine them saying

shocked pikachu face

https://nitter.net/opa334dev/status/1750156189294297500#m

No fan of apple. Don't own a single product.

But my guess they are planning to argue thay this part of the rule.

"at prices or conditions that are different from those offered through the online intermediation services of the gatekeeper."

Mean they cannot allow free side loading when many apps on their store have to pay to be available. Also as they have rules limiting the apps allowed via their store front. Allowing free side loading without checking the activities of the app. Would also be allowing conditions different from their store.

My guess is they want to argue that the law is badly formed and cannot be followed while providing a safe enviroment within your own services.

Good, charge those gossip wannabies.. in the meanwhile I will use degoogled Android and I will not pay a flying fuck.. LMAO..

Oh you pay with google. Just not with money but with your personal data. Google, you’re not the client, you’re the product.
- I don't, I use degoogled Android, I mean still android but degoogled not aosp, I just uninstall all Google apps through adb.

This isn’t going to fly with the EU.

If the EU didn't want to allow this then they should have written the law differently, but poorly-written regulations are their specialty. Apple's plan complies with the letter of the law. Developers are free to use a direct sales channel and can offer any price they want, along with various conditions that aren't an option in the App Store. They just have to pay a commission for access to the lucrative market Apple built. The specific percentage of the commission is such that it's not actually a desirable option for developers, but the law didn't say that Apple had to make it desirable to avoid the App Store's existing sales system.