Why is there such a large amount of communist and transgender related posts on the Fediverse compared to other platforms?
I am not criticizing them, I'm just out of the loop.
The Fediverse is home to a lot of young, tech-minded people distrustful of major corporations. The younger generations are more likely to come out as transgender due to greater awareness and acceptance of gender identity and dysphoria, and a decentralised, open platform is naturally going to appeal to communists, syndicalists and other left-wingers who don't want some billionaire buying the next website they get comfortable on. And funnily enough, there are a surprising number of trans people in the tech sector, to the point where trans-flag socks have become a meme among programmers.
This seems like the most straightforward answer. But it doesn't explain why people on the right haven't come to the fediverse in proportional numbers. I know a lot of right leaning Libertarian communities, and for some reason they like cryptocurrency and FOSS but not the fediverse.
There are right-wing instances of Mastodon (gab, truth, and others), not to mention many Pleroma ones, as well as Lemmy (exploding heads, and probably others). It's just that they get quickly defederated by everyone else for various valid reasons (usually hate and abuse, sometimes even child porn), so you don't get to interact with them much. They just get stuck in their own bubble.
proportional
Maybe they just don't have the actual numbers you'd expect from their outsized presence in the discourse, when they're not being protected, or facilitated, or actively promoted by engagement algorithms or the individuals who own the other platforms.
(I'm pretty sure this is the case, but I'm too lazy to get sources just this minute)
But they have. It's just they are so hateful and annoying that sooner than later they get banned or defederated. So they drop out of the face of the activity pub. Since no single entity can use an algo to force their views onto all users (ads or suggestion algos) they never resurface.
And of course crypto bros hate the fediverse, it doesn't let them force their ponzi schemes with ads or SEOed posts. And most people here were initially pretty tech savvy individuals, almost all actively hostile against nfts and altcoins. As for Foss, they only like that the software is free, the freedom ideology is just lip service for them, they don't actually believe. Case in point, Oracle. Foss? Free for me but not for thee.
People on the right don't see the issue with neoliberalism. They are mostly fine with all the ads based system and corporate making billions out of the datas. Neoliberalism tend towards fascism with time. They will prefer fascism to redistribute profits to the workers.
The fediverse is a different point of view. You can defederate if it goes wrong with an instance what makes the profits by ad revenue impossible or too small. The big corps don't have a huge interest in these platform without profits. People on the right will follow these corps and the platforms affiliated.
On the left, people will federate. I recommend to have a good read about the fondation of the unions in the 19th century. People of the diversity will historically be on the left rather than on the right. Again, for the profits, the neoliberals will prefer to oppress you as a minority for the profits than to have social and societal consideration for you.
You ends with the people of the left coming to the fediverse and the right on corps social media.
They already have alt-tech, which had kind of a headstart on the Fediverse.
You don't have to be a right wing extremist to be libertarian (small L).
I am here and a big supporter of OSS, but many would call me right wing. I support living your life how you want privately and acknowledging different identities and sexualities, because if you aren’t flaunting it, how would I even know? But I also feel that sex, intimacy, etc should be private and should not be something discussed or displayed so openly, regardless of orientation, so many would label me as conservative.
I'd argue the 'young' though. Polls I've seen, seem to show a huge 30-40 demographic.
Ya, most young people I know that are not in tech are terrible with tech. They have only experienced EZmode and need shit put on a silver platter.
i think that's why the fediverse is doomed to perpetual obscurity. my reddit-refugee addictions have taught me that only reddit has the content that i like and that i need to learn how to appreciate stuff i don't like to get my fix; i wonder how people get started on furry stuff. lol
Trans people and communists are nearly half of software dev. The other half are furries.
How dare you imply most software devs aren't all three simultaneously
They're 90% of FOSS development. Also, their "daily driver" is an old thinkpad running linux -- often Arch.
I use Arch btw
How dare you call me out like that
Based off the amount of fury porn communities I've blocked, half seems very, very conservative. What's the old joke, if a bomb went off at a fury convention the Internet would go down?
Somehow I haven't heard of that one lol
Not sure why this is such a common perception. Most of the software devs I know are pretty average people other than being computer nerds. I met one trans CS student in college but that was it.
Being trans is correlated with autism and you will find a bunch of autistic people in tech, because tech makes more sense to then than humans do. Same with things like videogame speedrunning.
If you don't see that there is a greater number of trans people than in the general population you might want to look again.
I feel so out-of-place, being a regular run of the mill gay dude.
You got socks?...
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GNU+UwU
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That'll be partly down to the communist and transgender coders who helped lay the foundations for this place.
I for one welcome our trans communist overlords
Reddit is living in 2010 while we're out here building fully automated luxury trans space communism.
That's a possibility. Since the platform started off on their terms, it's harder to convince new people of opposing politics to join the community.
A big part is because things like the Fediverse are aligned with the goal of Communists. Do away with the profit motive and constant rat race so we can spend time doing and making great things.
Imagine if Facebook wasn’t interested in ad revenue and data gathering but truly sought to keep people connected and to facilitate communication. No bullshit algorithm, no manipulation to keep people doom scrolling.
Most of them seem to be centred around a few instances, they're pretty easy to avoid once you have the lay of the land.
it's amazing what you see when algorithms aren't deciding it for you.
Maybe it's that homophobia and transphobia are so dominant on more popular platforms that there is a natural migration towards more free and liberal platforms. I always wondered why you see more and more racism, hate and such degeneracy the larger a platform becomes.
I think it's because leftists are, as a group, a lot less toxic and hateful. They are happy to be a tiny community chatting with each other about being a trans furry communist all day every day.
The right on the other hand are, as a group, a bunch of anti social losers who thrive on hating and complaining about stuff. That's not a sustainable platform because it's either a miserable experience or it gets shut down for hate speech so they migrate around and attach themselves to heathier communities and complain about those instead.
It’s because when platforms get large enough Nazis (not metaphorical ones, actual 1488 self described National Socialists) start targeting them for recruitment purposes.
If you know where to look you can see them organize in real time.
The issue I have with this is that publicly expressing their love for others is an extremely natural and normal thing to do. Talking openly about your opposite-gender spouse, kissing or holding hands with your partner, going out for a nice date - whatever. These are all totally normal things which people won't blink at when a heterosexual couple is doing it, yet LGBT people can still be discriminated against for these behaviours. That's not even getting into trans or gender-non-conforming people, who can be discriminated against simply for existing and presenting the way they do.
I don't just want to ensure that LGBT people are free from explicit legislative discrimination. I want them to be free from social discrimination as well. Social consequences for being publicly gay are not acceptable, even if people aren't in favour of more open forms of discrimination.
Why is there such a large amount of Nazi, fascist, conservative, Republican, and bootlicking related posts on other platforms compared to the Fediverse?
Ad revenue is proportional to engagement; outrage drives repeat engagement.
I guess that's the inverse of the same question.
I think that's their point.
And I believe it's because outrage and hate drive engagement and that's essentially the point of of social networks as they are really just fronts for ads.
What a trash 'answer.'
Yes, it is. You are.
We might be able to answer the question better if you named the "other platforms" you're referring to. It doesn't seem like an unusual amount compared to, for instance, how much communist/transgender content Reddit had back when Reddit wasn't as evil as it is now. (Who knows what Reddit's like now. I haven't been back since the two-day boycott over the API pricing.)
All that said, some of the communist content here is tankies. (That is, authoritarian communists who spout CCP or other authoritarian communist regimes' propaganda.) Some of the Lemmy instances (like latte.isnot.coffe and lemmy.ml) are run by tankies.
That said, a lot of the communist content here is grass-roots anarcho-communist advocacy by people like me who ideologically lean that way.
Any evidence that lemmy.ml is run by "tankies"?
I don't think the lemmy.ml admins have been coy about it.
If you go to the lemmy.ml home page, at the bottom of the right column is a list of admins.
The first admin's profile banner is a picture of Mao. And the second's profile pic is a photo of Fidel Castro. The other two don't have profile pics that are explicitly authoritarian communist and I haven't had the patience to look through a whole lot of their posts or anything.
Just a couple of Reddit threads (via libreddit.hu) on the topic: one and two. Unfortunately what they link do doesn't appear to be in the wayback machine as far as I've been able to tell.
Just take a look at the admin's profile yourself. Plenty of interesting stuff if you sort by old.
If you're left wing, it's a pretty good space. I don't see left wingers complaining to be honest.
The only evidenced complaint about censorship of criticism of China, was full of misleading bs that deserved to be removed to keep the community free of cancer. I'd have made an account there first, but they weren't allowing registrations at the time Sync for Lemmy went down which is when and why I came here.
Thanks for this. It was very well-reasoned, and gave me a perspective I hadn't thought of before.
Yeah, that's the reason. Trans girls just often happen to be good at IT and leftist.
I was going to say because Linux is a big community on lemmy. And as we all know, Linux users are all either trans or femboys. /s
I transitioned (ugh I hate that word)
Slightly off topic but I'm curious, why do you hate that word and is there different wording that you'd prefer?
Not the person you're replying to, but my guess is that "transition" implies some sort of inner journey, but transitioning is often really about changing how the world views you. You're still the woman, man, or non-binary entity you always were, you're just making changes to encourage/force everyone else to see you the same way.
Ahhh, yes, the good old anarchocommunism, also known as bigotry 😆
Care to explain buddy?
Kinda sounds like you dont know what your talking about.
Did you confuse it with "anarcho-capitalism"?
People that are naturally drawn to fediverse tend to be:
So it's not that surprising to see plenty of anti-capitalism and transgender stuff here if you consider this demographics.
Yeah but I've also seen a lot of supporters of FOSS from right wing people. 4chan has a big FOSS community for example. For some reason those types don't frequent fediverse?
Well, if you look at Mastodpns history they definitely tried but servers like Gab shut down the Federation eventually because they where almoat entirely isolated really quick and efficiently by basically all other instances. I think those things have a lasting effect and could definitely be part of the reason.
The more transgender related posts are mostly because 196 a very large queer and especially trans friendly subreddit closed permanently and migrated wholesale to a instance called blahajzone. If you look at r/place right now you can tell the absence of 196 by the fact there are very few queer symbols on r/place compared to last year where 196 and associated subs had coordinated artworks and defense campaigns for their flags. I'm pretty sure last time they managed to take over the American flag and force it to move to another spot on the canvas. Now there are two small flags and nothing else.
Potato - potatoe, tomato - tomatoe.
You see 196 as
queer and especially trans friendly
I see it as a garden of shitposting delights.
i can vouch for that as someone who participated this year. even maintaining a bunch of barcode flags on the canvas near the painting frame was difficult because of how little people we had.
Because the Lemmy software was developed by communist-leaning developers and they have, prior to the reddit exodus, had the biggest communities. As for the transgender related content, the transgender community was one of the largest to leave reddit for Lemmy.
I wonder why disparate and well-meaning communities would leave a social media platform full of outspoken fascists.
Do a shot every time someone says this
There aren’t nearly as many right wingers and fascists as social media makes you believe. Speaking as a Mastodon instance admin, every single time we’ve had huge waves of bot and/or troll signups they’ve been very clearly right wing accounts (almost all had similar bios) that almost immediately started interacting with and boosting each other as well as harassing trans and queer people.
The thing about the fediverse is that it can’t be manipulated the way centralized social media can. So what happens is that it gets handled very quickly. They get banned and their instances get defederated so all they can do is shout into the void. They’re not, nor have they ever been, the majority by any stretch of the imagination, and most people have absolutely no desire to hear what they have to say at all.
On top of that, a huge number of them are grifters, and they won’t get any engagement here. They can’t get the kind of viral outrage they need because most people aren’t even seeing their posts.
stares in "12% of Greek voters choosing blatant facist parties"
Same problem in Germany (just worse) right now, but we should still remember that 12 or even 20% are far from the majority. They are very good at shouting so loud that you could think there are more, but there aren't. They only have as much power as we give them.
I was talking about social media specifically.
I wonder how long it's gonna take for the elites to start trying to pull a Conservapedia on the Fediverse? Cause, you know, all that engagement with non-conservative ideas can't be organic, right? It's clearly manipulated by the cabal or something, and we gotta have BaLaNcE.
Because the people that flock to these platforms first are usually technically adept nerds and free thinkers.
in a word, intersectionality. you're getting people who were already looking for an excuse to ditch reddit and twitter, and of that group, you're selecting the ones with the most tech literacy. That tends to overlap people with progressive politics.
“extremist left” is a bit much to describe groups of people just trying to avoid harassment and hate on platforms clearly careening to the right, with essentially zero moderation, that officially respond to inquiries and concerns with automated poop.
You're right, too many of the people on the fediverse aren't extreme leftists. We should radicalise them
What you describe is exactly what extremist left is. Antifa means nothing less then being against facism. Who isn't except of facists?
This is the right answer. Of course marginalized groups tend to colonize new communities, because the big platforms, both because of their top-down structuring Nd because of the people who are on them, aren't always welcoming.
This is different from Voat tho. Voat was explicitly made to be a "free speech zone" i.e. a "let's say nazi shit because nobody can censor us"-space. The fediverse's idea is simply not to be dependent on centralised platforms, it says nothing about the content. If it happens to be left leaning, it's because left leaning people tend to care more about stuff like right to privacy and centralisation.
I was with you until "extremist left".
because the fediverse is a place where the admins choose to federate with whoever they want and get to choose what are the policies in their own instances. so you got a chance to stop the hatred and harrasment trans people are victim of on other social plateform where the company don't want to dive into "political" stuff
it's kind of a safe space online for trans and lgbt for that reason
My assumption is that the bots, shills, astroturfers and other corporate interests haven’t arrived in sufficient quantities yet.
It’s not that there’s more here, just the volume of noise out there is far greater and most of the content generated is for parties who gain no advantage from posing as part of either of those communities.
I don't know if it's just Reddit and Lemmy, but it feels like the internet in general just started trending heavily towards transgender-related stuff in the past few years. Just references to Femboys and trans flags all over the place, it's kind of weird how quickly it gained such traction. I don't have any problem with the trans community, if any of my kids came out as LGBTQ+, I would love them just as much. In high school I literally wore dresses and got beat up and made fun of for being different (more for the punk/goth aesthetic), so I've had some understanding of what they go through, even if I don't identify with any of it personally. I sympathize with what they're going through right now given that an entire political party has decided to turn them into scapegoats.
And I think it's great that they're building a community around themselves and are able to find other people that accept them for who they are, but I find their online communities tend to be incredibly hostile and militant to anybody that is less than completely loyal to the cause. Even just asking questions, giving opinions, or commenting any sort of criticism of their militant behavior gets you banned if you're not 150% supportive. Anything you say is twisted around to make it seem like you're a bigot who completely hates trans people and you're essentially a nazi. It tends to be incredibly negative, like they're looking to be outraged at the slightest provocation. Their tactics tend to be incredibly heavy-handed, just absolutely no tolerance for Cisgender people not understanding their lifestyle.
So I've just started blocking trans and furry content because I just don't care to see it. It's just not my bag, nothing against people that are in that community. The same way nobody else would really care to see if I made posts glorifying heterosexuality and being a boring vanilla binary white guy, I'm just not interested in celebrating lifestyle choices simply for the sake of celebrating it. I'll go to LGBTQ+ weddings and I'll defend anybody's right to love whomever they want or be whatever they want to be, but I just have other things I'm more interested in reading about. Board games, science, technology, politics, climate change, graphic design, art, music, movies, and whatever else other than someone else's sexual identity. Maybe that makes me closed-minded, I don't know, I thought the point was equality?
If you block furry stuff you'll miss out on a lot of network security news
I'm not seeing any of what you're describing, maybe you should edit your subscriptions and then filter to Subscribed so you're only getting content that interests you? I think it's great for people to have an environment where they can celebrate life events that should be allowed to bring them unqualified joy, but IRL may draw snide comments and abuse from families and strangers and coworkers. I'm an old cis het white mom, but maybe I need to seek out some of those communities and spread a bunch of upvotes like confetti at a wedding.
I’ve always thought it was better to browse all and filter out things that don’t interest me rather than try and only subscribe to things that I already know I like. I end up finding communities and discussion that I never would have found otherwise, and honestly, I can’t fathom why that isn’t the default/most popular way of using aggregated sites like this.
It’s kinda like listening to the same 3 albums over and over again just because you already know you like that music vs just letting a station play and skipping the songs that aren’t working out for you.
That doesn't make you closed-minded, it actually makes you a free thinker. Nobody should have to share or weigh in on the obsessions of the media at any time. Awareness is good but the media doesn't exactly give us healthy things to think about. The world is so much more than just mass shootings, identity politics, and loudmouths with too much money and power.
I saw some new-atheist style anti-mulsim racist trans women online the other day.
Given how men are more likely to be openly racist online, I've been waiting for the honeymoon phase of liberal type trans activism to taper off, much like how you can find many right wing LGB people online today, but as this post suggests, they're mostly liberal for now.
Gays are to Boomers as Trans is to Gen-X ers. I've been wondering what the marginalized group Millennials are going to have trouble with. My current guess is Poly, but that is just a guess at this point.
Groups I have trouble with as a millennial:
One thing I don't understand is certain types of slang but I understand that's more a result of not being exposed to it regularly then anything else.
Ofc I don't understand people that identify as a dog, or a snake, or a duck. But they are free to do them, as long as they don't try and force that on me (ie. Inconveniencing others/trying to be the main character by being unprofessional in the work place, or making life harder for services/people that don't cater specifically to them...etc). I think that applies generally to anyone, but you seem to have to walk on eggshells if the person who is being a dick is of some other nature, as if that excuses the behavior.
While writing this I had an epiphany. My biggest gripes are harmless groups who are viewed as fragile, who are able to get away with behavior/actions that others cannot because others don't want to be viewed as _____Phobic and lynched. Empowering some of them to, generally, be assholes. That's what I can't stand.
I didn't used to believe in Horseshoe Theory, but then I learned about Tankies
Millennial here, no hate towards poly-folk. Seems exhausting, but do you boo.
I expect it will be something AI related, like wanting them to have rights or whatever as they approach mimicking human behavior and appearing being alive (see, did it there). Likely because of a decade or so of us being economically threatened, and not viewing them as things that can think/'feel/not-want-to-die or whatever.
No fucking way will I ever support AI having rights. It's game over then, just hand all the power to corpos.
It's not that hard. Capitalists and neoliberals
/s Those polygones are at it again, ruining
<home country here>
.Trans are bullied and socially ostrichized irl, so they tend to be terminally online. A lot of trans are also coders. They manage to find themselves in to pretty much every obscure techy social space online, they don't got anything else going on irl.
ostrichized
I just want to take a moment off topic to say how much I love this new word (malaprop?).
The word you were hoping for is 'ostracized', but ostrichized is a fun enough mental image that it should be its own word too.
Now I’m imagining a mad scientist with a ray gun that “ostrichizes” people who annoy them.
Screwed up coffee order? ZAP! The barista gets turned into an ostrich. Annoying, pushy person at the door handing out pamphlets? ZAP! Try saving souls as an ostrich. Have a cart overflowing with groceries in the “Ten Items or Less” line? ZAP! Ostrich.
May I quote you to boneappletea@lemmy.world?
I would expect it's due to suppression on mainstream platforms.
And unlike hate-based subcultures like you find in conservatism or disgust-based subcultures present in traditionalist circles which require some targets to criticize hosts to sink their mandibles into and suck the blood out of, the LGBTQIA+, Anti-capitalist, Furry, Weeb, etc subcultures are quite happy existing without the presence of bigots, corpo-simps, or chuds in general.
Not sure about transgender posts, but the communist posts are probably because other platforms are owned by huge corporations, and huge corporations generally don't like communism. Lemmy can never be bought by a huge corporation (at least not entirely).
I just block commie groups as they turn up and thus never see their content. Ezpz.
Lol why is this downvoted? Are commies really that fragile?
Spoiler: yes, they are 🤣
Everything can be bought.
If you don't understand why that is not true of things like lemmy, you do not understand lemmy
lemmy cannot be bought in the same way that Linux cannot be bought. You may buy an instance (or a distro) but that doesn't (and can't) get you the whole lot. Anyone could start a new instance, thwarting your bid to collect all the users
IDK, I see tons of left and trans content on YT and Twitter, for example. That is because that's the type of content I like, and the type of people I follow. I suspect what you're noticing isn't so much the presence of communism and trans people, but the absence of dumb shit.
Not an especially intolerant of others group.
It's less which group applies to me, it's which group do I not mind sharing a space with.
I can look at a trans post and either think lol or I don't get it.
I see a fascist/racist post and not think it's funny, and that it makes me kind of sad.
Lemmy is a free open source software project. People into FOSS like the idea of something being built by a community to the benefit of everyone and not controlled by any one person or company who could seek to benfit only themselves. It makes sense that their political ideology mirrors that.
FOSS and just programming and tech in general have an unusually large number of trans people. I'm going to be honest, I'm not exactly sure why. I can only assume because programmers are judged based on their code and not their appearance.
Jesus's fuck I hope I'm never judged on my code.
Judging by this person's code, I totally understand their socio-economic leanings and policies!
Tech doesn’t really self select for well balanced, socially confident, neurologically normal folks.
I’m sure those people are in tech and have success as well, but the stereotype of the “hacker nerd” didn’t spring out of nothing. The obsessiveness and desire to be right and know everything that make IT geniuses can also make those same folks really, really hard to be around.
People that are ostracized for their socially aberrant behavior usually (not always!) have sympathy for other outcast groups, whatever the reason.
And you’re right, too - writing code is sort of one of those ultimate bullshit tests - either it works, or it doesn’t. Computers don’t care about your pedigree or your appearance or even your personality. Nice guys who write shit code might have management or product team in their future, but they don’t usually write code for very long. But good devs are hard to find, so even the most straight laced companies are willing to bend a bit when it comes to talented developers.
My $.02, and worth every penny 😂
Idk but I mostly block all communities involving the former (but the latter doesn’t bother me at all). I don’t use lemmy to argue politics or first world problems, especially with people who are often incredibly hostile to dissent. I use it to post pictures of my beautiful home state and talk about gaming
There's a general selection bias in the fediverse, and the idea of decentralizing power is pretty communistic and also pretty beneficial to people who feel oppressed (transgenders).
Most new waves have a strong bias when you think about it. For example, crypto has a strong tilt towards Libertarianism and deregulation
Strange. I thought decentralized power is anarchistic. Kind of opposite to historical communist regimes.
Communism is defined as stateless. Karl Marx said that while a vanguard party may be a path to achieve communism, it's not communist until the state is dissolved. Until then, it's socialist.
You'll find no shortage of irony in the Lemmygrad scene, I assure you.
There is such a thing as anarcho-communism. There's even Christo-communism. Communism doesn't actually rely on authoritarianism conceptually, even if it has done so in practice for some big examples. Capitalism doesn't require liberalism either, the UK is an example of that, and the Republican US tendency towards religious conservatism.
Correlation vs causation can be difficult to establish in politics, but i think it's a good idea to separate out the definitions of words based on the theory behind them. Marx imagined communism to be a classless society, while authoritarianism requires hierarchy. This is one reason anarchist communism has been a concept since the late 19th century.
I think it's a mixed bag. While anarchistic approaches do lean that way (and there's a lot more I need to learn about it beyond the nonsense I was told in school), the communist ideology also gave a lot of power to workers, but on the flip side, taking the approach of a centrally planned economy requires a concentration of power. So, the world is full of contradictions, I guess
I’m not entirely sure that is the case, but I’d believe that if one forms part of a group that has non-conformity to a general standard as part of the expected traits to belong, that same behavior will apply to other aspects of the life of the person.
People congregate where they feel safe. Sometimes that looks like the nerdy introverted kid living life on the internet when their immediate community doesn't understand them, and the roles they're expected to play don't work for them. Turns out a lot of nerdy introverted kids who felt misunderstood by their families were trans, which isn't too surprising.
What's interesting to me is that most trans-people in tech are AMAB, and I think that reflects computers being seen as an ok "masculine" hobby (in lieu of sports or cars, etc.) . I often wonder where all the AFAB transpeeps end up instead, I know they're somewhere!
I can't speak for everyone or say my response is the definitive answer. But I would say it's because people actually feel safe discussing those topics. They don't necessarily have to worry about being silenced by a corporation or like they will be censored because of how the fediverse works.
All the bootlickers are still chillin with spez
The way I understand from what I've seen and read is that these are mostly people who were banned, shunned or chased away from other platforms. While Reddit can ban you, you can just spin up an instance of Lemmy, Mastodon or whatever yourself and play by your own rules.
Interestingly, on Reddit there were tons of trans related posts and comments, but what I see here (and other fedi platforms) is trans people posting whatever interests them, and not about being trans. It's like they can just be themselves without people constantly talking about or questioning their identity.
a trans Bechdel test?
One could look at the concept of the fediverse and relate it to the ideals of segregating higher powers (big businesses) and giving power to the working class (pay for labor). IE: the concept of dividing up Lemmy as a service into multiple-owned servers instead of a single monolith like Reddit. This tends to align with the ideology of Leftism (to be clear, the progressive class of beliefs, for anyone non-American) tend to be more inviting and inclusive to people. This makes for a good platform for trans people to feel welcomed.
This is not a factual answer, and I do not believe anyone here holds the authority to state a fact. It is only my personal observation.
alongside the whole tech stuff one major thing is that when you report hate speech in the fediverse it (usually) goes to moderators and admins who give a shit about their community rather than some automated system which may or may not do anything, resulting in a community that's more hostile towards people spouting hate speech (but muh freeze peach!! echo chamber!! bleh im leaving), which indirectly makes people affected by that speech feel more comfortable to speak up.
of course particularly the microblog/Mastodon-y side of the fediverse still has some issues to solve regarding racism (i am not the best person to go into detail on that one though), but transphobia in particular tends to be taken out pretty quickly, according to my own observations anyway.
I have not seen any transgender related post. Where are you seeing it?
You're in the wrong place
Yup
Because there’s no algorithm to curate what you see. You can find the same content in the mainstream platforms if you look hard enough, unless the platform explicitly blocks them (i.e. nsfw on Threads). On the fediverse, there’s no algorithm that pushes or deprioritizes content, so you see everything as it is, and it’s up to you to curate your own feed to your liking.
Trans people interact with trans content and show support for it so the posts score well for the algorithm. Im a normie, I laugh and move onto the next normie meme, sometimes I remember to upvote.
Sometimes it really blows being a white, straight man approaching 40. At best we have no sense of community at all at worst people assume that I too am mad at "them" and what "they" are doing. Be it trying to corrupt the children/take our jobs/marry animals/control the banks/destroy science/enslave us to china. Forcing me to tell them to fuck off.
I blocked the blahaj (nothing against trans people. "Communities" based on sex/gender-stuff is just cringe) and lemmygrad (plus other tankie) instances. Now I barely see any of it.
Same... Nothing against trans people, they can do them, but I have absolutely zero interest in reading about that sort of thing in much the same way I have zero interest in reading about stamp collection.
Ultimately, I joined Lemmy as a reddit refugee... If Lemmy turns out to be a place where I'm not interested in the majority after some time I'll just leave 🤷
I've been doing that too. Is there a way to block whole instances? Doing it by community is tedious.
On Connect you can just press the "..." menu on a post and press "block instance". Not sure about other clients or webui.
I see little of either.
You're cringe. I have an account on a community about arch linux...
Yeah. Hating all genders is acceptable. It only becomes a problem when you selectively hate 'em.
The way Lemmy is structured is basically communist reddit. Most people who use it are aware of this, and enjoy it for that reason.
I think the answer has something to do with Programming Socks
That's a ChatGPT generated answer 😭
Is it bad that I use ChatGPT enough to to be able to recognize that's a ChatGPT generated answer?
Honestly those reasons aren't the main reason why they went with the fediverse. For communism, it's because decentralization means that companies can't own the technology - by design. The meme "you have no power here" applies. For trans people, I believe it's because they can have their own community that they truly own, and decide who they can link with through federation/defederation and being able to decide who can participate rather than having to put up with a company making those decisions.
If you're gonna have an account dedicated to ChatGPT-generated answers, at least have it do something cool like a catgirl maid typing style.
Because they are here to take control of the narrative. I got severely downvote, name called and ultimately site banned from an instance because I politely constantly questioned them. The censorship is coming
we're coming for you
I'm in your walls
Metaphorically
Free platform = free ads. And since it's still no mainstream, propaganda accounts are more visible.
Ok? They are nor even trying to convince you of anything. Just having a place to discuss things.
I'm a swinger and this weekend I'm going to a Onesie party and I'm really excited because I have a 3-piece-suit-Onesie
Wife and I are gonna bang the shit out of like half that party, combined.
Just figured you'd wanna know.
Curious what other platforms aren’t? Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, etc are extremely Left so it’s always typical to see politically charged posts in relation to those things (among other topics). Curious to hear other people’s thoughts but I was hopeful the Fediverse would be a little more neutral.
Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, etc are extremely Left
i assume you are American. Only in the awkward U.S. paradigm can somebody think of these platforms as "extremely left" 🤦
Oh shit, I guess I was wrong (for the most part). I’ve been spending too much time on Reddit, where those types posts were the regular.
https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/29395/political-preference-social-media/
pre-Musk Twitter was the least right-wing of the social media platforms (being center-right at best) – current Twitter, Reddit, Meta (Facebook & Instagram) are solidly right-wing – Facebook was caught several times adjusting its algorithm to promote right-wing extremism
relatively speaking, the Fediverse is to the left of mainstream social media, but being relatively to the left of Nazis doesn’t automatically make you an Communist (there’s a whole spectrum in between, it’s not a binary)
Young people haven't experienced life yet and think communist is something good, despite 100 years of absolute failures and hundreds of millions of people starving, getting killed for things such as wearing glasses, and sent to work to death in prisons for having a different opinion.
Young people also over represent themselves on the transgender scale and don't realize they aren't actually special compared to the 7 billion people in the world, but like to feel special in their high school of 1,000 people.
Young people comprise the vast majority of people on the fediverse.
Young people will get a rude awakening once they find out they have to work for a living, provide to those they love and, once again, that their 'identity' doesn't matter to anyone else.
Lmao. Here's the bootlicker to vehemently defend the shit ass system stepping on his neck, whilst shitting on "young" ppl because that's the only thing left for him to feel better about his sad life.
Btw, I'm 37 and I still haven't become a lifeless drone who bitches about young ppl.
And before your next predictable retort; I'm successfully self employed and I work harder than you - I guarantee it.
Doesn't mean I can't advocate for a better life for the next generation because I had to work hard. Doesn't make me a special snowflake or better than anyone else.
bootlicker
Boot licker because...I think communism is bad?
Or because I think the youth obsessed with social media and gender identity will have a rude awakening when they actually have to get jobs?
Btw, I’m 37 and I still haven’t become a lifeless drone who bitches about young ppl.
Btw I'm 29 and I still haven't become a lifeless drone who bitches about young ppl. I bitch about idiots who think communism is good and gender identity is the most important thing in the world.
And before your next predictable retort; I’m successfully self employed and I work harder than you - I guarantee it.
And I don't care. I'm glad you're successful. I feel sorry for you that you work harder than I do.
I'm decently successful, working for a small company, and I work maybe 3-4 hours a day. I don't want to work, I want to live life. I'm living a great and happy life every day, that's what I strive for, I don't strive to work as hard as I can.
Doesn’t mean I can’t advocate for a better life for the next generation because I had to work hard
Are you talking about communism?
If you are self employed, it's because of anti-communism policies, and you have capitalism to thank.
You're welcome - from Capitalism.
Some people have experiences which have left them embittered towards a younger, more hopeful generation. Despite 100's of years of exploitation, absolute failure, and hundreds of millions of people starving to death, getting killed for things such as not wanting to work weekends, and sent to work to death for having the absolute cajones to do what they need to do to provide for their loved ones, they STILL insist that capitalism is the only way forward because it's the only thing they've ever known.
The average human may not stand out amid 8 billion other people, but each and every person is unique and therefore special in their own way.
Everyone wants to work, to do something, but no one wants to have a job because your worth as a human shouldn't be tied to how much money you can earn for someone else. (And, inb4 "art is not a job", that is so fucking disingenuous; if you think that art isn't essential, then STOP listening to music, STOP watching television and movies, STOP reading books and newspapers, and then get back to me.) People naturally provide for those they care for and, news flash, people care about other people and their identities.
I know you're probably just trolling because you hate your life under capitalism and need to feel like you're a part of something, but like join the club bro.
Do you think the people who built these platforms are teens? I'm a 27 yo engineer and Marxist through and through. Just because workers unions of the past were overturned by tyrants and capitalists alike, doesn't mean the basic ideas weren't sound. The system in which I am forced to participate in is fundamentally flawed.
Do you think the people who built these platforms are teens?
I don't know who created this platform, but I doubt they're teens. The vast majority of users are young.
Marxist through and through.
Please educate yourself then. Marxism has only resulted in death and destruction. It has put countries back hundreds of years and have killed hundreds of millions of people.
Just because workers unions of the past were overturned by tyrants and capitalists alike
I'm pro union, and capitalist. Capitalism isn't anti-union. Once again, please educate yourself. Advocating for marxism is 100x worse than advocating for nazism.
The system in which I am forced to participate in is fundamentally flawed.
Please move to a communist country and see what you're forced to do.
The only reason you're an engineer is because you were allowed that choice. Under communism you would likely have been killed simply for being college educated.
I'm 49 and still socialist. Working for a living is the core of communism. Workers are more populous and generate all the value, we would like a larger share of the value we create.
lol young people
you'll be first to get scraped up with a snow shovel