Skip Navigation
With all this talk about sync's pricing...
  • Relying on the donation of others to the Lemmy dev and instances to make profits is way more greedy. It is even parasitic on one side.

    People not donating is a thing but they don't make profits. It's a huge difference on the greedy scale.

  • With all this talk about sync's pricing...
  • Things in the world aren’t free.

    Did I write that? I explicitly wrote he can keep 1/3. It doesn't make it free at all, knowing the other 2/3 going to the Lemmy devs and instances. Nothing is free in this model. It's about the fairness.

    1/3 isn't arbitrary. You have 3 parties here, the app dev, the lemmy devs and the lemmy instances. The first relies entirely on the second and the third, who are in a donation model. Without these two, the first is at best useless, therefore giving 2/3 to the other parties is fine. Cutting the revenues of the app in 3 for each party is fair.

  • With all this talk about sync's pricing...
  • Sync fans in the comments: Yes, I bought Sync and love it

    This is what people said me that would not happens. But, I knew people will think by paying for Sync they will pay for Lemmy (devs and instances).

  • With all this talk about sync's pricing...
  • If the sync dev would be fair and not greedy, he would give at least the 2/3 of his revenues from the app to the Lemmy devs and the instances. Otherwise, I guess instances should be able to block these apps.

    I understand everyone need to earn something. And keeping max 1/3 is good.

    People need to understand and in priority the people coming from Reddit that Lemmy is not reddit. Reddit earns money with ads and investors. They could inject ads through the APIs and states in the usage terms that 3rd party devs could not remove them. They didn't do it.

    Lemmy is a complet other story. Lemmy rely on donations. So, when someone donates to the Lemmy devs and/or instances, the dev of a paid app is making money on this donation. Without the Lemmy devs and the instances, the paid app would not exist at all. It's not fair at all to not share the revenue of these apps.

    These paid apps and their devs are at best predators and at least parasitics.

  • It was 15 euros earlier today, what happened?
  • You can't compare Reddit and Lemmy. They are different with a different model. Lemmy rely on donation. Reddit has ads and investors.

    The dev of Sync did money with Reddit but Reddit had a source of revenue.

    Lemmy relying on donation doesn't have this source of revenue. This is why splitting the revenue of Sync between Lemmy's devs, instances and Sync's dev is fair.

    If someone donate to the Lemmy's devs and/or instances, this person allows the sync's dev to make money on this donation. This isn't fair.

    The sync model with Lemmy is predatory at best and parasitic at least.

  • It was 15 euros earlier today, what happened?
  • They need to earn more than the dev of sync who don't split the revenue with the Lemmy dev and the instances. The split of the revenues is fair for everyone. Lemmy devs, instances and Sync dev receive something for their work.

    He is literally making money on the back of the people donating. Without these donator his business doesn't make any sense and wouldn't exist.

  • Can we have some clarification on what "Usage Data" the app collects and shares with advertisers?
  • But, the dev doesn't comply with gdpr. It's opt-out by default what is not the case.

    So to access the payment, you have to share private and personal datas. This isn't fine at all. He should offer the option to buy without being tracked.

  • Sync Ultra OTP is available for 109,99 €
  • I'm not assuming. My point is that the dev has to share the revenues with the instances. Without instances, the app is useless. It's not the case so users should give the same.

    The other point is that a paid third party client adds a layer what makes the instances less visible. This lack of visibility can lower the donation. Also, you will end with one or two people thinking they pay for the app and so for the instances.

    A reminder is always good.

  • Tank train on the Gotthard line

    There is a lack of European trains here. This is an empty tank train going south. It's operated by Widmer Rail Service, a private railway operator.

    0
    InitialsDiceBearhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearhttps://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/„Initials” (https://github.com/dicebear/dicebear) by „DiceBear”, licensed under „CC0 1.0” (https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/)MO
    moitoi @lemmy.world
    Posts 1
    Comments 94