Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

Eh. There will always be real conspiracies and then...lizard people conspiracies.
This shit right here? yeah.....they killed him. 100%. No doubt in my fucking mind.
- I mean, he was old...people die—
  It said the 62-year-old had died from a "self-inflicted" wound on 9 March and police were investigating.
  oh shit they totally fucking killed him
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It's possible it was stress from the litigation. In fact, if you don't specify whose stress, I'd almost guarantee it.
There are circumstances where conspiracy the likeliest explanation.
This is one of those.
If it actually happened, it's just a "conspiracy," not a "conspiracy theory."
He didn’t show any signs of depression or suicidal tendencies… signs like voluntarily flying on a boeing plane.
It's no longer a conspiracy when it's proven true.
- This isn't proof. That's the crazy part. I hear ya. I'm with ya. I don't see anything that is concrete physical evidence to tie it all together. As of now.
- A conspiracy is when a group plans to do something unlawful. So if it's proven true it's still a conspiracy. It just stops being a theory.
- That's the most annoying misunderstanding. A conspiracy is still a conspiracy when you prove it happened/it's happening. Conspirators remain conspirators, which means they were working together to do something illegal in secret. Ok, so now it's not secret anymore, but they still conspired.
The Gulf of Tonkin incident being created by the US was a conspiracy theory until it wasn’t.
Not every “conspiracy theory” is wrong. Sometimes people in charge are actually trying to cover something up. It’s not insane to be skeptical of an official line until it’s backed up with proof.
Lizard people, however, don’t exist.
- Lizard people, however, don’t exist.
  Speak for yourself, upright ape.
That's what they want you to think.

He was staying at a hotel out-of-state while giving evidence against Boeing.
He was found dead in his car in the hotel parking lot from a 'self-inflicted wound'.

There's really no other way to look at it logically than he was murdered by Boeing. Nothing else adds up.

He wasn't even done giving the deposition that he literally volunteered to give...
- literall--
  Downvote.
I mean, I think the logical thing to do is wait until the evidence comes out and we know for sure. It's entirely possible he was under a lot of stress from all this and did kill himself. Now, I don't deny that it's a HUGE. FUCKING. CONICIDENCE. but those do happen from time to time. Its also a hell of a story, good-guy whistleblower murdered by greedy multinational aerospace company and defense contractor...during an election year...if you wrote the script nobody would buy it.
Let's be suspicious, but not jump to conclusions.
- Jesus, do you think maybe they're trying to run out the clock too? Who wants to bet that a certain CEO is angling for a political position within a certain potential administration? Perhaps head of the FAA?
Look, I'm not gonna say Boeing did it. Though if they did, I'd bet money they drove.
An investor could’ve threatened his family? (So not directly Boeing)
If he got a bunch of hate online, or had crippling anxiety about the testimony he still had to give? I mean you could even speculate he thought he would be killed someday, so he took it into his own hands.
(Please note the above is all BS!)
I would argue the jury is still out and that we may never know.
- Direct involvement might be a question still. But general involvement is absolute. If Boeing wasn't so shitty he almost assuredly would still be alive.
- An investor could’ve threatened his family? (So not directly Boeing)
  Or somebody involved in corporate corruption and embezzling in Boeing. That would be worse for Boeing as a whole than him remaining alive, but possibly better for that somebody who may not be identified.
They don't gain much. The FAA is breathing down their neck already.
- The FAA has allowed this mess to continue for far too long because Boeing is an industry titan. Too big to fail. Well, maybe not anymore.
- Not sure how much jurisdiction or investigation the FFA does for murders that occur on the ground though.
It makes no sense for them to kill him, that draws wayyyy too much attention. More likely if they were involved, they blackmailed him and that caused him to kill himself, or another party that also wanted to keep him quiet killed him and they didn't care if it looked like Boeing did it.
Does suicide ever add up? It being a hit doesn't add up either. A hotel parking lot is a rather public place to try to force someone to kill themselves.

Guess the executives didn't want to wait for him to take one of their planes and die naturally by getting sucked out at 35,000 feet when a door falls off.

At least the front didn't fall off
- I absolutely love that bit!
- Well, that's not typical, if like to point that out.
- ...yet.

“Local officials confirmed Mr. Barnett’s suicide. When asked how Mr. Barnett managed to fire the sniper shot through his bedroom window, the officer first on the scene only replied, “Trust me bro.”, while stuffing a large stack of 100 dollars bills back down the front of his pants.”

[2 week later] Former lead detective found dead in in what investigators have ruled a suicide. He apparently hung himself after a fit of rage where his house appeared to have kicked in his own front door, tore the hard drive out of his security camera hub, punched himself in the face a number of times, then tied the rope to a bannister and strung himself up.
(Interwebz pedant voice) actually there are several scenarios possible where one could conceivably kill themselves with a sniper rifle 100 yards away . . . People who don’t know about this are just so credulous, but weapons science has known for a long time that JFK actually killed himself . . .

i can't find it online, but im reasonably certain i heard an interview with this guy on Canadian public radio several years ago that really shook me. he talked basically about how he wouldn't fly on a Boeing plane, knowing what he knows and having seen what he'd seen, stuff like quality rejected parts getting taken back into inventory to meet quotas. the takeaway for me was that the quality control system that had previously worked so well was an invention of equal or possibly higher importance to any kind of aerodynamic innovation present on those planes. i work in an analogous role (in a different industry) and i really do take it more seriously after having heard the interview. nobody likes the work of quality assurance and you'll never see someone doing a non-conformance report on TV but it's a necessary condition for planes to stay in the sky. RIP to a real one and if he got murdered then i hope the industry burns

Neat, I'm jumping on a Boeing 737-700 in about 8 hours. Nice knowin ya while it lasted.
- That feel was created before they started cutting corners. You should be fine.
- I think even Boeing is still safer per passenger mile than any car, or biking/walking.
- It's not a MAX so you'll probably be fine haha
John Oliver's Boeing broadcast last week included a video of a guy walking around a Boeing production floor asking all the people if any of them would be willing to fly in a Boeing. Of everyone he asked a single guy said yes and then followed it up with "but I kind of have a death wish."
- There were more yes's, but they were cut out of the video. However, Oliver mentions after the video what amount of them said yes and what amount said no. Most of them did say "no" though.

What else does boeing do?... It wouldn't be military tech also? Like Apaches for example.

They should really make some sort of incentive to keep these people alive. Like if a whistle blower dies before the verdict of the trial/hearing make it an automatic assumption and multiply the punishment by 3 times (Treble!). Then you would have companies doing everything to not have whistle blowers die, not what we have today.

Your competitors take out contract hits against your whistleblower and you need to have bodyguards to protect them.
And then your head of security and the whistleblower fall in love until at the end of the movie the competitor assassin gets into the court waiting room and the head of security throws themselves into the ninja star's way and dies in the whistleblower's arms as the ultimate sacrifice is made for love and corporate profits.
I tear up just thinking about it.
- Bravo. Hope you make Hollywood kid, you got the vision we need.
- I see this as an absolute win. Also kinda liking the idea of big companies spending money in a spy vs spy sort of thing.
They do have an disincentive, its called decades in jail if its discovered you kill him.
- Exactly this. In a fucked up way a rule like that would actually incentivise whistleblowers to become martyrs.
- There should be presumption of guilt in this case.
- Step 1: Short company stocks Step 2: kill witness against the company Step 3: profit.
  Just one example of that being a terrible idea
Or, short of that.. If you're whistleblowing on Boeing, you should go to Airbus and Lockheed and tell them, "it's in your best interest that I stay breathing".
- It's absolutely not. They don't want whistleblowers.
- Do not underestimate the level of solidarity rich people will display against anyone who challenges them.

The day before his testimony. He was 100% assassinated. Too bad Boeing is such a major company. This would have FBI agents crawling all over it if it wasn't a company that can afford to buy every politician in DC.

Idk the DOJ opened a criminal investigation against them but that could just be theater. 100% this man was murdered though dude, no doubt about it. When I read that whole "our thoughts are with his friends and family" I got a chill man that's so evil.
- To be fair, they would've said that regardless. Its standard corporate speak.
- If this was a Trump administration with Sessions or Barr, nothing would be done. I actually do think Garland's DOJ cares about such corruption, so I'm hopeful this will at least be looked into.
- We are in the era of corporate aristocracy. They are considered people, have vast wealth to manipulate and avoid the law, and when they ARE caught acting horrifically, the government just sighs and says "Well we can't stop having products so I guess it really was suicide lol'
  And us normal peasants just have to suck it up.
  Time to storm the fucking castle.
They could still be crawling over it, hopefully
- Yeah I guess they have no reason to divulge active investigations to the public, but yeah, obviously the optics on this are super fucked.

I'm not going to say that Boeing had this guy directly killed, but I can certainly see them and their legal team explicitly trying to make his life as hellish as possible until he felt that he only had one way out. Legal threats if you stop proceeding with your case, legals threats if you don't, they want a terrible warning for any other whistleblowers.

Isn't that exactly what happened to Aaron Schwartz? Not a whistleblower, but similar tactics
- Yes the FBI wanted to make an example out of him for the crime of downloading research papers from a service he had legitimate access to. Even JSTOR thought the prosecution was absurd and didn't want anything to do with it.

Is this a Russian style self inflicted wound…?

My brother in Freedom Jesus, faking a murder to look like suicide is as American as apple pie!
Hell the most notorious pedophile in history, who definitely had video of the world’s richest men committing statutory rape and assault, killed himself in one of the most secure locations anyone could imagine, surrounded by guards and video cameras! And nobody saw a thing! HA! And we’re all like “well i guess that sordid chapter is over” hahahaha. Oh man. It literally works every. single. time.
- The FBI famously sent a letter to MLK urging him to kill himself.
The Russians will throw someone out the window or poison them in a very obvious way, the Americans will put two in their head and have it ruled a suicide.
- I love the one where the guy “killed himself” by duck taping himself to a lawn chair and then throwing himself in the pool.
No, it's probably more of a mob style self-inflicted wound. Didn't say he shot himself in the head twice and jumped out a window.
Cases like these should be called Russian Suicides.
- With how many assassinations the US carries out, I think they deserve to at least be called USicides
No window was involved, so- probably not.

How about customers just flat out refuse to fly on Boeing planes?

The fact that several airlines let you filter out plane models indicates people are indeed doing that. Airbus: no fuss; no muss.
At what part of the trip. When boarding? You think the airline will accommodate? You already paid.
- You can filter for aircraft used when booking a plane.
- I am actually at the point where I will avoid Boeing 737-MAX at booking, ask again at check-in to confirm the plane type, and if I saw one at the gate, I would refuse to board and accept the money as a loss. Unfortunately not everyone can afford re-booking like that. So f*ck Boeing and I just hope that Airbus won't ever be that corrupt (chances are they are or will be at some point).
- The airline will accommodate just fine: “Oh, you don’t want to fly? Too bad, the exit is that way.”
Or refuse to fly all together. Flying is extremely carbon intensive.
Because its kind of possible to organize such mass boycotts without groups set up to manage it, and none are coming forward on this.
I mean hell, even the republicunt boycott of beer couldn't be arsed to actually make a difference, and MAN the mixture of beer and queerness is the exact trigger to rile those bigots.

Why don't news organizations address the elephant in the room? They can say there is no evidence of foul play but the circumstances warrant further investigation as his death is quite convenient for Bowing. I don't see how that could be libelous.

They can be sued if they claim Boeing executives murdered a guy unless there are court records showing Boeing executives were convicted for murdering a guy. However, I guarantee you people like Trevor Noah and John Oliver will absolutely run with this bit if they get the chance.
"WhY iSN't ThE MEdiA CoVEriNG tHe NeWs" people scream in the comments of a news feed that alerted them to this exact issue.
- That's simply not true. Defamation/libel against a public company requires "actual malice", which essentially means that the news outlet would have to have evidence that what they're saying is not true.
  Fox was going to lose to Dominion because they 100% knew they were lying about the company, and there were records proving it. It's not actually common at all for cases regarding defamation against public figures or corporations to go anywhere.
- did you even read the comment you're responding to?

I'll never fly in a Boeing again after hearing this. Unless the ceo gets arrested 🤔

Kayak lets you search via plane model fyi

thanks for the info about kayak, very appreciated!!
me same, i would never again willingly book a flight with a boeing airplane.
in my mind that B. company got the status of a criminal organization >20 years ago when they afaik refused to fix a problem with sensors and the computer overriding pilot control which crashed the plane just after takeoff while pilot could not do anything against it. back then however the discussions were about computers overriding pilot control, not about a company intentionally risking lives.
Now they seem to me to still refuse to fix the problems and instead rename planes so that one cannot avoid their deathtraps unless not at all flying with their aircrafts. so i choose to only book flights with aviation companies that do not have B. planes at all. I decided to in future rather use a car or boat instead, if only B. planes are available.
i would not be surprised if the current "technical event" would be the actual same cause that "forced the nose down" over 20years ago, to me it sounds exactly like the same until now, it might just luckily have happened by chance high enough in the air so that the "nose forced down by computer" problem could somehow be solved with enough time where they had only seconds in that crash two decades ago.
- 20 years ago when they afaik refused to fix a problem with sensors and the computer overriding pilot control which crashed the plane just after takeoff while pilot could not do anything against it
  Erm. Are you talking about something OTHER than the changed 737-MAX design and the MCAS system? Because those two related crashes happened in late 2018 and early 2019 - 5-6 years ago. Got a link to the >20 years ago incident you are talking about?
good call on kayak.
just tried it out by excluding MAX models of aircraft and it worked. unfortunately, that severely limits options, but hey, it's possible.
I just looked at a regular domestic Air Canada flight from Pearson to YVR...... $1500 fucking dollars to catch an Airbus over a Boeing. Seems like the demand to not be on a Boeing plane is driving plane tickets into the stratosphere.
- That's just air Canada.
  Their new motto: 'We're not happy till you're not happy'

So, the guy was expected to appear in court for thw second round of questioning and when he didn't show up was found dead in his truck in the underground car park of the hotel. Doesn't sound like someone that wanted to end it. Maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't book a room to go to court and then on a whim decide to end it.

They should investigate the coroner asap.

Sounds like Jeffrey Epsteins coroner.
Most people that kill themselves do so on a whim. Its probably not the case, but its not impossible. I'm guessing either the coroner is corrupt, or they have actual evidence it was a suicide. If it was a murder, then I doubt Boeing would do it without assurance it couldn't be traced back to them. So regardless of what actually happened, the only official story there will ever be is that it was a suicide. That is, unless Boeing is as reckless about murder as they are about building planes.
- Most people that kill themselves do so on a whim.
  [Citation required]
  I would argue that most likely than not there is a trail of depression and/or mental illness that leads up to the actual act being done.
- Most people who commit suicide actually plan to do it. There is plenty of warning beforehand.

This is "falling out of a window or down an elevator shaft in Russia"-level blatant.

This appears very loud and clear to any other potential whistle-blowers.

You forgot blown-up plane. For Boeing it is super easy.
- Yes, a prominent manufacturer is likely to publicly destroy their product to target one person, rather than simply have their lawyers and accountants make life as difficult as possible for this person.

It said the 62-year-old had died from a “self-inflicted” wound on 9 March and police were investigating.

Ah yes the classic suicide by shot to the back.

Nothing to see here, citizen. Move along, and consoom Boeing.

What are us plebs going to do, boycott Boeing and buy our personal jets someplace else? I think I'm going to protest by never buying a 747. Get wrecked Boeing.
- Check your flight and plane model before clicking "book".
- I know this is a joke but you can't buy a new 747 from Boeing even if you wanted to. Boeing stopped taking orders for the 747 in 2020 and the last plane rolled off the production line in 2022.
- i will not purchase any flights that are on a 787 or 737. i dont care if the other available flight costs twice as much. no amount of money can bring you back to life.
It was a gunshot wound to the head. Its plausible the wound was self inflicted, although its pretty clear Boeing probably did it. They are evil, not stupid.
- I'm certainly suspicious, but if you're basing that "probably" on the information provided in this article...well your critical thinking skill leave a lot to be desired.
- One thing I learned from NCIS: "investigate suicides as if they were murders".
  Dunno if it was one of the Rules, tho.

Weird, but I read this article and before it said specifically that he died from a gunshot wound. Looks like it's been updated (or redacted) to leave that bit out. Originally it said he died from a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head.

So Boeing executives murdered a whistleblower. huh.

Being in Quality Control myself, I've always felt pressure from higher ups around some of our bigger findings. Cool to know if I ever find something too big they'll just straight up murder me.

I've thought about this way too much and if you seriously think you're in danger, there's a few things you can do. Obviously lots of security cameras with local and off-site backups. Then hidden cameras, whatever spy cameras you can find, with an SD card in each. Then you need to create a deadman switch. Something you must interact with at least daily or it automatically uploads all your videos and documents etc everywhere it can, and / or sends them to your lawyer or journalists if you think you can trust them. I err on the side of public release as well because as long as it's in the public eye it will be subject to scrutiny. That's also why I'd start establishing a social media presence. "HI I'm X, I blew the whistle on Y. There's a hearing scheduled for Z and I would like to once again publicly state that I don't have any current medical or mental health issues and I have no plans to ever take my own life. Anyway here's how to make waffles" or whatever.
- I've thought about this a lot too and I don't even have a job where I need to worry about it. The best way is really to just stay in the public eye and be as transparent as legally possible. I considered just fucking live streaming most of my life on twitch if I needed too. Car cam, house cam, go pro on my person, etc.
Something strange like that happened after that Sri Lankan family was murdered in Ontario. Was referred to as a mass shooting until no, wait, was a knife.
- Sometimes reporters get details of the story wrong. I don't know what's so strange about that.

And they get away with it because we let them. We have proven time and time again that we'll do nothing, so they'll keep doing it.
- The difference between terrorism and revolution is critical mass of supporters. If it was as easy as taking to the streets with guns I imagine more of the left would do it. We only have to look as far back as 2019 to Willem van Spronsen to see you'd likely just die in vain. Until then, train, agitate, and organize.

If it's Boeing, I'm NOT going.

Last week, he gave a formal deposition in which he was questioned by Boeing's lawyers, before being cross-examined by his own counsel.

He had been due to undergo further questioning on Saturday. When he did not appear, enquiries were made at his hotel.

He was subsequently found dead in his truck in the hotel car park.

It’s time to pop them piñatas.
Removed by the admins but lives forever in our hearts. I bet even they know you're right, but you know how comments like those tend to go.
^gets it

In case you think we're any better than the Russians.

No, it is not a corporation protecting its bottom line that makes us no better, but the inevitable lack of response from the US "justice" system. Just like with Epstein.
- Damn. That hits hard.
This is the norm in Russia, it's not in the US. Both sides are not the same. I can't seem to remember the last time any president had someone they didn't like pushed out of a window or had their tea poisoned on the regular. If Trump gets elected obviously that will change but to say that we aren't any better is wild.
Especially after killing political rivals like Navalny (and all the failed attempts). When is the last time we saw that in the US?
- Epstein
go ahead and pack your bags, the door to Russia is wide open
- Boy, this town sure does have gang violence like that town over there!
  Why don't you go live over there, then?
  What a stupid pointless argument. What does that even mean?

Was the self inflicted wound two 9mm rounds to the back of the head?

Accidentally brutally stabbed himself in the chest whilst shaving
- Happens to the best of us.
Just two? Rookie numbers.

100% they killed him

Burn one for another dead hero, folks.

What would be the correct expression? Someone has committed this whistleblowers suicide?

He was suicided
Suicide implies that he did it to himself. In the absence of enough evidence to say "murder" it's the best phrase we'll get.

...what the fuck?

First whistleblower "suicide"?
The second I see someone's name next to whistleblower, I know they're on borrowed time, some manage to be left alone, but most don't, that's why we need to keep these people's names and causes alive, we can't let corporations get away with silencing a whistleblower, we must amplify it.

He is the reason some people wants the US to be a bit more like Russia. Yeah, no, this wasn't a suicide, this was to stop the case that he himself had embarked on a long-running legal action on and that he had been in Charleston for legal interviews for. This stops the case in its tracks.

“John was in the midst of a deposition in his whistleblower retaliation case, which finally was nearing the end,” Knowles and his co-counsel Robert Turkewitz said in a statement to TIME. “He was in very good spirits and really looking forward to putting this phase of his life behind him and moving on. We didn’t see any indication he would take his own life. No one can believe it.”

https://time.com/6900123/boeing-whistleblower-john-barnett-found-dead-deposition-safety/

Please don't reply if you are just going to spam "BuT sUiCiDe". If that's false, he's just another casualty of Boeing. If that's true, he's just another casualty of Boeing.

Funny how he takes his own life in an hotel car park, and no one hears it. Let me guess, he also happened to buy the gun and get the gun permit the same day ... His anxiety never manifested as suicidal tendencies, and if anything, taking action had decreased it.

Or, this is the reason why the USA already is like Russia... "Suicide by 3 shots in the back then jumped out of the window" kind of scenarios.
- Some parts of the USA already are, but in pockets. The USA is definitely an oligarchy at this point, but still not a complete autocracy, and there's still a reasonable amount of trust that an actual investigation will be taking place regarding the circumstances of his death, which means not being able to hire just any sort of hitman for these stints.

Seems legit.

Yesterday I've read a joke about something like that exactly about audits and proceedings connected to Boeing's recent accidents.

I thought this is satire first.

What a terrible coincidence

A terrible coincidence, indeed.

America is a truly sick society

The right thing to do would be to seize Boeing, take it away from its shareholders, hold and interrogate the major shareholders, and regardless of the outcome of interrogations the company should never return to the public. Either dismantle and sell every pathetic asset, or run it as a public company. This is a no-brainer, they should not be allowed to continue with business as usual even if no one is found guilty or no direct link is established.

When a person is convicted of certain crimes, the government assumes control over their life in the form of imprisonment. Why shouldn't the same happen to corporations that commit serious offenses? Any argument against this could be applied tenfold to the incarceration of citizens, but I suspect that defenders of criminal corporations don't have a consistent view in that regard.
Forget identifying the people responsible, forget pleas that they'll do better, forget fines-- if you demonstrate that you are willing to use your freedom to abuse society, society gets to tell you what to do. Sometimes for a few years, sometimes forever.

"self-inflicted" ahh huuh

He just wandered out to his car and died, bro. In the middle of a deposition. Its actually incredibly normal, bro. Why are you asking all these questions, bro? He just died, okay? Its fine.
- Yeah, he just fell down an elevator shaft… onto some bullets…

Boeing said it was saddened to hear of Mr Barnett's passing.

I'm sure they were distraught.

This is something I thought would be on the Onion.

Deeply saddened by such a tragic loss, and we send our condolences to his family.
Meanwhile, Boeing execs

Also found this article with more details but wtf is this website? I've never heard of it? Sketchy? Legit? I have no clue.

https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/boeing-whistleblower-found-dead-in-charleston-after-break-in-depositions/

That site also has a 2019 interview with John Barnett. The site is named and the interview is quoted in today's Daily Mail article on the whistleblower's suspicious death.
So, corporate crime reporter appears legit; the whistleblower spoke with them in 2019, and his lawyer did write to them with details.
- Thanks. I didn't find much about CCR besides this:
  https://archives.internetscout.org/r18210/corporate_crime_reporter
  Published since 1986, the Corporate Crime Reporter is a legal newsletter that highlights recent news items about ongoing corporate crime prosecutions, along with featuring interviews with prominent attorneys who work in this rather intriguing field of law practice. The interview section is quite interesting as ...

he commited suicide in a russian fashion

The timing is very convenient.... for Boeing.

Shades of Karen Silkwood right here. :(

Michael Hastings as well

"self-inflicted" wound

Did he shoot himself in the back of the head? Double tap for good measure?

ITT: The equivalent of Trump supporters confusing the fact that they are suspicious that the election was stolen, with actually knowing so.

Well, Boeing is demonstrably willing, even determined, to choose financial short term gain over any amount of human lives or reputation loss. It would be shocking if it was truly an accident that saved Boeing from a second day of testimony right when everything is starting to really fall apart for them, right?
- Notice how you haven't offered up any evidence. Just motivation to kill him (even that's tenuous at best).
  You know what Trump supporters often argue? That the "deep state" had motive to stop Trump from becoming POTUS, which is what makes their claims reasonable.
  In this case, you're acting just like them.
I'd say it's more like a huge percentage of votes for one candidate got lost in a fire. Sure fires happen, but it was really important that this one should be protected from happening.

Did he fly on a Boeing plane?

How tall was the self inflicting wound fall? There aren't a lot of tall buildings near Everett.

Maybe it was 3 bullets to the back? He was probably an engineer. Engineers can figure out how to purposely shoot themselves in the back more than 1 time with the same or multiple guns. Some plywood, rope or string, glue gun, and miscellaneous items, that's all you need really...and a gun with bullets. Let's start a project "automated self immolation chair". I'm going to set-up a weekly meeting with you all until a prototype rev A is complete. We'll start this morning with a 4 hour DFMEA followed by a three hour brainstorming session. We'll need a business plan if we want approval for resources. I've just discussed the objective with my boss. She said no, and to take the trash out. And wash the dishes. It was an abrupt end of project but we learned valuable lessons. I'll have a report out before Friday 5pm. We'll be going out for drinks if you want to discuss details. Ah yes! Another successful project completion!

Completely on point. I am an engineer. If I were to self inflict gunshots, I would 100% design a contraption that would shooot multiple times. Need to make sure.
Also need to hide this contraption while I am in the dying process. To make sure people know it was self inflicted.
- What kind of ice is there that can hold at least 14ksi during projectile launch? It may have to be reinforced with graphene.
Let’s start a project “automated self immolation chair”
that's just called the electric chair, is it not? Just press the button yourself
- Well, I mean, it doesn't have to be electric. We need to discuss the IP in this here electrical seating device you mentioned wherein they have incorporated a single button function for electrically terminating life function. There may be room for a continuation design patent where dismemberment, disembowelment and other dis-x-ments can also be actuated via a single throw single contact latching button. With proper denouncing circuits and or algorithms, we can be sure to only de-live once per period. Anvils are single de-living event devices for example.

I don't know why Boeing would wait 6 or 7 years to kill him, right in the middle of his deposition, at the exact moment it would greatly intensify exposure of the story.

I hope people focus on the facts he was sharing-- that Boeing was taking safety shortcuts and ignoring clear risks to keep production deadlines--and what that means about possible risks to the millions of Americans that fly, not fall off into conspiracy land.

Truly only Americans are at risk because of their actions, astute observation there
- Only Americans are real people. Is there a community for quotes like this?
Pretty sure no one at the top of boeing cares about anything other than the next quarter, and that mentality is exactly the one that would panic and pull the trigger.
They didn't kill him for 6 or 7 years because boeings weren't falling apart in the air back then. Now that its in the news they knew his testimony would sink them, so they made a gamble.
It took a while for them to preemptively buy their way out of the assassination
to make an example so others dont blow the whistle

I guess you really don’t know what’s going on inside people’s heads

Boeing knew, they are the ones that put the bullets through it
- You should make a police statement if you have proof of that/witnessed it

To the people saying Boeing killed him, sorta, but not really.

I've known people who have had tried to unionize in multiple industries and all of their health went to shit. Beyond the constant threat of a billion dollar organization breathing down your neck and threatening litigation for the remainder of your twilight years.

Think about how often the people around you have wanted to end their life, or hell even you yourself. Now couple that with all the above.

Just because people are noble doesn't mean they aren't anymore human that you or me.

Nobody went in and murdered Epstein. He had plenty of reason to do it himself as a known pedophile for the richest in a penal system that doesn't exactly look fondly on chomos.

Either way, needlessly speculating is fun. Just don't let yourselves fall into these dumbass conspiracies like every right-wing fascist chud has for the last decade or more. Reality is rarely as exciting as headlines, movies, or the internet likes it to be.

obviously Epstein killed himself to protect the secret technique of disabling security cameras and putting guards to sleep with his mind
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. What you're describing kind of happened to Aaron Schwartz RIP.
Even if Epstein killed himself they definitely knew he was suicidal and looked the other way while he did it. Idk about this guy but it's suspicious but I agree more information needs to come out before going too far into any rabbit holes. Sorry for your mass downvotes lol looks like some people are already sucked in. 😅