The latest internet spiritualism fads seem to be so invested in a no-rules type of spirituality that is ultimately very solipsistic. I think it's a result of our late capitalist isolation - some people want to push back against it but others fully embrace it. The idea that you can create a whole different reality based solely on your OWN decisions where other people are essentially just objects in your new reality while you maintain subjectivity is very solipsistic. 21st century cults are reflective of our new stay-at-home reality - why go to the compound with the rest of your Brothers and Sisters? Stay at home, microdose mushrooms and colloidal silver, and have your cult delivered to you over the Internet!
I can’t even dunk on shit like this it just makes me sad. I so understand just wanting to be in another world and hoping beyond hope that you’ll just one day wake up where it’s better and not hell world
Yeah same, that's why I didn't put it in the dunk tank. I've also wanted to just go somewhere else, to some world which is less shit. I get where these people are coming from.
Reminds me of this subreddit I came across once called /r/twinflames. As far as I can tell it's like the concept of a "soul mate." I was introduced to it by a user posting about how their life sucks because their "partner" or something (I can't remember what word they used) won't spend time with them. And everyone was like "dude this person wants nothing to do with you leave them alone" and I checked their post history and it was full of this twin flames stuff where they had convinced themselves they had some kind of supernatural connection with some random person who literally did not even want to be friends with them. After a little bit of pushback from people outside that sub they deleted their entire account. Probably made another one and just hang around in the creepy echo chamber after that.
(Oh god one of the top posts right now mentions shifting, there's a connection seriously though this stuff is freaky)
Twin Flame is literally a cult run by some creepy ex-tech bro and his wife. They literally arrange marriages for people and if they marriages don't work out they tell them it's due to some "spiritual failing". Netflix just did a documentary about them.
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I'm reading their FAQ and it's pretty crank. The thing I've noticed is that everyone has a desired reality (DR) but since it's extraordinarily unlikely that people will share the same DR due to differences in what they consciously and subconsciously desire, the vast majority of DR would be populated by clones with only the shifter as the "real" conscious agent, which is pretty depressing. Almost nothing that happens in the DR transfers over to current reality (CR), which makes the DR pretty pointless outside of experiencing a particular psychedelic experience or, as I suspect, as a form of escapism and coping in a harsh reality. Something bad happens in CR, you shift to your DR as your clone in CR eats shit, and you shift back to CR after the dust has settled.
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Tbh this description doesn't seem to conform to the posts I've been reading where people describe their own experience with it.
It seems like lucid dreaming is an important part for many, like a gateway, but it is unclear to me whether they are describing an extended lucid dream where they go to a separate reality in the dream (a lot of Harry potter based realities apparently) and their physical body is just sleeping.
Some say they have shifted for years and then woken up a day later. Some describe a "clone" of themselves doing all the things they would do, while they themselves are living in a separate reality.
It all seems very idiosyncratic from person to person.
Edit: even the clones part is unclear.
Clones are really just parallel realitys.
When everyone thinks of clones they think of them in this reality being life an empty shell and obeying their commands of their script after they shift to their Dr.
What are clones actually?
-The reality of it is, clones don't exist.
When you script that your clone will clean your room while you are gone, you are essentially scripting that you'll come back to a parallel reality in which you cleaned your room.
Whatever you script your "clone" to do, you're simply scripting to shift back to a reality in which you did that, not changing or altering what you're going to do in this specific reality once you shift. You would not be coming back to the same reality.
You can not control realitys or specific people in realities while you're not even there, so I don't know where the misconception of clones came in at.
TLDR; clones aren't real, you're shifting to parallel realities.
sorry if this is against the rules but what is this community for? i don’t know what a chapo, vaush, or nautilism means, the sidebar isn’t much help either.
You wound up in the weirdo commie corner of the internet. Exit is back down the hallway where you came, second door from the left. If you'd like to stay, there's a Leninist literature study session in room 3B that starts in 20 minutes
This is the biggest online community about reality shifting. We are desperately trying to shift into the reality in which Hilary Clinton is the president
ChapoTrapHouse is a fan community for the Citations Needed podcast. Vaush is an internet personality who lobbies NATO to let him fuck children. Natulism is a 28 year old thoroughbred racing horse from Australia that had 10 wins across 53 races, winning a combined half a million australian dollareedoos.
This comm is mostly used for stuff that doesn't fit into other comms and shitposting. Hexbear was originally called chapo.chat because it was founded by refugees from when Reddit banned the chapotraphouse sub, which is where this comm gets its name
Vaush is a really shitty politics and debate streamer. Anti-natalism is the idea that it is immoral to have children.
this is just our catch-all general comm on hexbear. named for Chapo Trap House the podcast. "Anti-nautilism" should be "anti-natalism". Vaush (yuck) is a disgusting creep, US politics twitch streamer, and we got sick of hearing/talking about him
Imagine if some people who used to be on somethingawful or /pol/ on 4chan until roughly the shia le bouf HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US saga, did not go /completely/ insane and eventually ended up on lemmy.
They’d just vote their replika as chairwoman and split the party once they realize they all have a unique rabbit hole they’ve shoved their version of the LLM down.
This isn't much of an ideology. First assume that the multiverse is real and not a narrative device. Now explain the conscious mind as if it were a mechanism of that multiverse.
What if you could reality shift but you had to shit your pants in public to do so. When you enter the new reality you are back in public with even more shit in your pants
Shifting to infinite realities every nanosecond that there is because I could be choosing to move my digits and limbs .0001 degrees in any other direction than the directions I'm choosing
Y'all will really defend religion yet completely dismiss shifting amongst other things like astrology. Fetishism for ancient traditions and aversion to the new era of spiritualism is what this is
At least religion has communities built around it and ceremonies meant to impart morals and values upon its practitioners. Not all healthy communities or good values but I can at least see how these structures can be used for social good.
Woo stuff is just like a bunch of fan fiction writers taking their creations way too seriously.