This redefines astroturf
This redefines astroturf
This redefines astroturf
This is hitting Dr. Doom crying about 9/11 levels of bullshit
Lmao, that was the first thing I thought of when I saw this.
I still have my issue of X-Factor where Juggernaut and Black Tom Cassidy blow up the World Trade Center and Juggernaut just has this big one page splash panel where he's cackling like a dad who just saw his son hit his first home run in Little League
LOL at the idea of him feeling anything besides "I need to find who's responsible for this and learn their methods"
Isn't Disney notoriously litigious? Never thought I'd say this, but I hope Disney sues them.
Given how fanatical they are about PR, they probably don't want to deal with the inevitable accusations of antisemitism such litigation would cause.
Yeah it'd be an unstoppable force encountering an immovable object
This is so embarrassing lol. I though Ukraine had captured the title of most reddit country but looks like Israel is giving them a run for their money
90 percent sure that Jigsaw would support Hamas though. Like doesn't he torture people for being selfish pieces of shit that ruin other people's lives? Even if everything bad Israel said about Hamas was true, Jigsaw would still fully support it on ideological grounds
Jigsaw has imprisoned and tortured people for absolutely trivial things.
I'd go so far ad to say he's pretty bad guy
But also he kills the president of an insurance company, kills a group of corrupt bureaucrats and landlords, every cop is portrayed as dumb and corrupt then they get killed.
The movies can’t decide whether individuals or systems are bad
Wanna make it clear I'm not defending Jigsaw. However, Jigsaw has by far the most consistent ideology of everybody shown in this image. Scar, Voldemort, and even Cruella are all simply in power struggles of sorts, and that's their ideology, wanting to be powerful. Jigsaw doesn't need more power in the movies, he's already infinitely more powerful than the people in his traps. But Jigsaw kidnapped a ton of people from a health insurance company for all the deaths they had given other people through austerity. Jigsaw may have an extremely warped moral compass, but he still has a moral compass that is completely separate from being powerful. He wants to punish people who have actually done bad, and I think he'd be pretty pissed over an entire nation of people being genocided.
As a character, separate from my own feelings, Jigsaw is infinitely more likely to side with Hamas.
This is such stupid shit. All feelings no analysis
They are probably aiming at children. Someone who is 10 now will be 20 in 10 years and already primed propagandised to support the next massacre. Can't think of any other reason for something so ridiculous.
What a way to spit on the graves of even the Israelis they are supposedly advocating for with this tacky shit.
They really couldn't think of anyone more evil than Disney characters for their propaganda?
Edit: Also isn't it a bad look anyway when Voldemort, Scar, Jigsaw, and Cruella are on your side? That entire campaign looks so clumsy.
I mean it's not like they can claim Hamas are worse than irl villains - could you imagine the reaction if they had Hitler looking at the news in horror?
Well, Netanyahou did say that Hamas are Nazis 🤷♂️
could you imagine the reaction
we'll find out next week
What the actual fuck
I'm pretty sure most of these characters have tried to kill children
okay but Scar is actually cool and good tho
if you haven't seen lion king in a long time, rewatching as an adult it's legit the story of a proletariat uprising told from the perspective of the bourgeoisie. It can also be argued as same for the feudal structure/divine right of kings.
Everyone has their place. The rich and privileged lead while everyone else lines down below them. If this is ever threatened, the world will literally wear down into wasteland hellscape. See the pride lands before and after the "natural order" is disrupted (Mufasa/Simba v. Scar/Hyena's rule).
I remember making an incredibly long and deranged post about my interpretation of The Lion King. But the gist is that The Lion King is a royal chronicle that heavily pushed a Simbaist line when Scar should've been king under the then Pride Rock traditional line of succession through agnatic seniority instead of male-exclusive primogeniture, which was forcefully imposed by the Simbaists when Scar was overthrown. Some points:
All this is to say The Lion King is Simbaist propaganda and Simba is a tyrant who must be overthrown.
Down with the tyrant Simba!
Down with the Simba regime!
Down with Simbaism!
Down with leonic supremacy!
Down with the Circle of Life!
Long live Pride Rock!
All power to the hooves and horns!
Is it proletarian? Or is it one faction of bourgeoisie overthrowing another with the populist support of the hyenas?
Does Scar replace it with more monarchy or is it really proletarian?
It’s monarchist propaganda, so of course the commies are power hungry and corrupt
I disagree Scar is very much of the ruling class and uses and exploits an underclasses anger at the status quo to gain personal power.
Like how Cortez turned a rebellion against the aztecs into a conquest
The movie was widely written by Black South Africans, only 4 years after the release of Nelson Mandela. Many of the writers on the film say that Scar is supposed to represent imperialist interests, Mufasa is the traditional African rule, while Simba represents Nelson Mandela coming back from prison and exhile to rule and overthrow the imperialists and rule their world better. I usually hate looking at author's intent, but I find it to be essential to understanding the Lion King.
The Hyenas represent the imperial core, starving and doing terrible under the rule, but also having hopes of being as powerful as Scar. Scar is a good representation of facism when you REALLY think about it.
Scar is very much of the ruling class and uses and exploits an underclasses anger at the status quo to gain personal power
common red scare trope. Scar didn't get a chance to correctly portray the uprising from his perspective. you only saw the bourgeoisie's side/telling of it
This is how all communist revolutions are framed by the right. They don’t think real communism exists, it’s always a bad faith cover for a power grab
I will never forgive the Royalist gazelle for bowing to their opressor in the opening scene
The question is, where are the sanctions and warfare made against Scar's rule?
the grass not growing is a metaphor for cuban sanctions
If this is ever threatened, the world will literally wear down into wasteland hellscape
https://www.irishmetabolicrifts.com/marx-on-the-colonization-of-irish-soil/
I recognized it as that old ass trope of a prince killing his evil uncle who killed his father for the throne (Jason and the Argonauts, Bhagavata Purana, Hamlet, Bahubali, etc.)
The trope is about divine rule or enlightened kingship, that I agree with. But overthrowing feudalism is a bourgeois revolution fueled by similar idealist humanism about how society should be set up. Not a communist, proletariat revolution which stems from a materialist philosophy.
I think an anti-feudal bourgeois revolution can be portrayed as symbolic of communist proletarian revolution, but only as a loose metaphor, so very hard to pull off. Tbh I don't think this trope does it though. There are better ways, like Robin Hood like figures or historical peasant revolts in which the peasants struggled against feudal lords or kings that work well IMO
I have conflicted feelings on this reading of the Lion King. While I understand where you're coming from, I think listening to some of the writers on Lion King kinda shake this up. Lion King had a lot of black South Africans writing it. Here's a video that goes into Lion King's accidental implications extremely well. I'm not saying your interpretation is wrong by any means btw. Normally I kind of ignore author's intent, but I feel that if author's intent adds enough to the conversation to actually be interesting, it's worth discussing at least. They don't know what they subconsciously wrote, so interpretations that ignore author's intent are completely valid. Different story interpretations is what separates good from great stories imo.
BUT with that being said, let's go into what the authors have said. Simba is supposed to represent Nelson Mandela, while Scar and the Hyenas are supposed to represent the colonizers. The writers weren't trying the convey that it was "natural order" that kept the world in check (although I will agree that certain parts of the movie certainly do), they were trying to convey how South Africa was flawed before the Europeans took over, but it still generally worked. Even with oppression that was present in pre-colonial South Africa, every single person in their ecosystem has a place, every person has a stake in their world where they do care about what happens. The lions may literally kill their subjects because hungry, but the lions also want the other groups of animals to actually succeed because they don't want to just move to find another food source. Regardless of how problematic the lions in the movie are, they still care about their society and culture.
The Hyenas and Scar are supposed to represent fascist colonizers (hence the imagery being uncomfortably Nazi). The Hyenas do really want to eat, but they also want to be as powerful as Scar is, and their avoidance of wider society is in hopes of getting as powerful as Scar. The Hyenas do not want to find their place in the rest of society, they want to drain said society until there's nothing left because they like laying around all day and consuming the value of the prey without thinking about it. The Hyenas are the imperial core, perfectly content with eating nations like Iraq, but even hungrier than before after their bloody feast.
They may stand where Mufasa used to stand, but do not care about keeping the society running, they just want to do the eating (aka the aesthetics of power) I think the grey skies were a bit dramatic and uncommunicative, but also think it would be too harsh for a Disney movie to have the Hyenas begin a genocide against the native population. I feel like Lion King is critical of the "natural order" at times, with Simba depending on Timone (canonically, extremely Jewish) and Pumba although the natural order says he should eat them. Idk, with author's intent, I see Lion King as the allegory of Nelson Mandela being exiled, imprisoned, and using that time spent with "the lesser" to come back strong enough to see true revolution for his people. Mandela was transformed from being a dedicated but young and questionable revolutionary to one of the most effective revolutionaries through his time in prison, just like Simba's time in exhile.
The reasons I consider author's intent so heavily in this case are two-fold. A. It's just an interesting conversation. You can read everything I just wrote and disagree with every word, but I'm sure you're at least thinking about it. B. This isn't just a story of a revolution, this is an extremely personal story to many of these writers. This movie released in 1994. Mandela had just been released from 30 years of prison in 1990, after being sentenced to life in the 60's. Mandela was taken away from his people for decades, but still came back as one of the most important leaders in modern history. To the South African writers of the film, this was extremely recent history, and extremely important history. Mandela/Simba weren't necessarily supposed to be brought back into leading because of the divine right of kings, rather because their homes have been ruined by foreign invaders and someone with enough influence had to come back and try to restore their homeland. Cult of personality, as bad as it can be, has proven to be absolutely essential in revolution.
Maybe these South African writers do have absolutely batshit conclusions in politics, but it just makes their point stand even more. Regardless of how flawed Mandela may have been, he actually had a stake in the nation and wouldn't have just let the nation fail. Maybe he would have commited a few atrocities or abuses of power, maybe (not really, think hypothetical since Lion King was built for Western audiences absorbed in anti-mandela propaganda of the time) Mandela actually commited some serious human rights abuses during his rule. The Europeans would have let every person in the country die for a few million dollars because the survival/death of south Africa simply didn't matter enough to be built into an actual colony. I think that's the ultimate point of the film. It doesn't really matter how fucked up we see the circle of life professed to the animals of the area, foreign powers with no understanding of the land will kill the land because their plans don't require the land to survive, they want as much profit as possible as fast as possible. Africa (yes, switching to all of Africa right now because the history of imperialism is borderline universal) doesn't have enough important resources to actually be developed by capitalists, but they do have enough important resources to be consistently subjugated by capitalists. The only way to protect Africa is by letting its citizens run its own nations.
Scar and the Hyenas are supposed to represent the colonizers
Africans imitating British people laughing
Lion King had a lot of black South Africans writing it.
did it tho? wasn't the whole thing concepted in the 80s by my little toaster guy after borrowing heavily from kimba the white lion jungle emperor?
regardless, yah i see that perspective. it easily has merit. especially if coupled with some of the writer's intent and/or interpretation/motivation for writing.
There was an interpretation I was once linked to on Stormfront (literal Stormfront not Reddit) that interpreted the Lion King as about apartheid South Africa (Lions=whites).
I went to the mentioned website and it is really weak on the evidence front. There is a supposed picture of a murdered toddler but there is only blood spatter and no dead toddler (thankfully). There is also a very cool footage of Hamas paragliding into the rave on stolen land. CW for blood, gore and violence for the website though so watch out for that if you decide to follow the link.
This is the original creator by the way, @israel stole the Voldemort one lmao
HP antagonist was supposed to be Netanyahu but he is too carricaturally evil.
I saw just the saw one and I was like"what the hell is this propaganda even trying to say" lmao
If I was greatly morally outraged about a series of killings my first thought wouldn't be to make disney themed art on the subject
kind of a weird reaction tbh
can't wait to see a AI generated Kim Jung Un
I gotchu
one more because of that smile
Its kind of funny how these memse reinforce how the subjects of their propaganda are simply viewing it through a screen and aren't actually involved in the same world as what they see
Yeah that's what I thought too. It's all a social media game to the propagandists and their targets. It's not a real thing that's happening for them, it's a thing to argue about on twitter.
GOOD post.
WHY IS IT ALWAYS HARRY POTTER?!! AAHHH
cruella scrolling reddit with her clothes like
Trying to tie behind the curve mass media into your cause makes me like it less if anything
Have they spoken with the released hostages?
Ok that's definitely top 3 of cringe i ever seen.
I said this in another comment, but Jigsaw is a character that I would argue is 100 percent on the side of Hamas. Jigsaw actually has ideology, even if he executes it in gross and evil ways. But dude literally started kidnapping medical insurance executives because their austerity was murdering people. Insurance man had to kill people in similar ways to how his patients died, but still got BRUTALIZED in the end by Roderick because he fucking deserved it.
Like yeah, Jigsaw is an evil piece of shit who will create dumbass punishments for people. But he's clearly trying to punish people punching down on defenseless people. Jigsaw would be far more likely to support Hamas than Israel.
dumbass punishments for people
men will literally do copycat murders based on the movie Seven rather than get therapy
jigsaw stans will NEVER bring up the flammable jelly trap 😭 bro seriously just called in sick to get off work and got all of that
“TANKIE HAMAS SUPPORTER ADMITS EVIL HAMAS IS ON SAME SIDE AS SUPERVILLAIN”
I like this picture. It speaks to me.
Lol the username is fastish
So...is their target audience comic book villians? If they use AI in their marketing campaign, is the site all AI as well?
Disney sues the State of Israel for copywrite infringement.
Same energy as that Xi cartoon https://i.postimg.cc/Wbw054ws/image.png
They're literally making our memes for us. They work for us now, and they think that they don't
the bourgeoisie produces its own gravediggers
Astroturfing so hard they're terrforming mars.
Wtf is this lol
Propaganda specifically targeted to Disney adults lmao