(Cw probably lots of non-vegan discussion) This is an active effort to start a struggle session.
Don't actually start shit please.
So my take ::: spoiler meat take is that boneless chicken wings are in all ways superior to normal chicken wings. :::
And mash potatoes on pizza isn't actually that bad. Just make it a proper pureé instead of smooshing up a baked potato with a spoon and calling it a day.
"authentic" does not necessarily mean good
If it weren't for the quality of ingredients, this meme would be unironically true.
i don't really think the word authentic means any thing any more. it's been abused by marketing so much it's a red flag when i see it
I like hawaiian pizza
Mild take, go back to reddit
tips fedora*
Outdoor cat burgers have a significantly better mouthfeel thanks to their free range diet.
indoor cat with that veal-like muscle and fat development
You might think a wagyu steak has marbling but you've never tried fat cat who never moves around steak j/s
im not even a vegan and i'm grossed out by my own comment
Bone in meat is fucking dog shit and all the people who think leaving the bone in makes the flavor magically better are wrong, all you're doing is making people have to work eating around shit. I don't care what nerd shit you wanna say to me about collagen or bone marrow or whatever, the difference in flavor is imperceptible and the difference in eating EXPERIENCE is massive. Fillets all day.
You will hate it in China. Order some duck or chicken rice, they will cook it whole, then cut the entire thing up, bones en all, with a cleaver, and dump it straight into the bowl. Shards of shattered bone everywhere
oh god
It makes a noticeable difference in stews and soups where bone and cartilage can actually break down
well yeah but then you're having it affect the consistency and mouth feel of the soup so yeah i agree, i meant more like bone in steaks or pork chops or chicken wings and stuff like that
i have been observing voluntary dietary restrictions already and am seriously tempted to make the leap to vegetarian, because what i'm learning right now about avoiding certain foods is that it's hard, it's annoying, but it's doable, and I am capable of cooking my own food to some robust degree. It's time.
Vegan is another step beyond, i might get there someday, but i'm interested in moving that way. The inertia of a lifetime of eating meat, my relative lack of means, and the stress of life makes big changes difficult right now, but I accept the moral arguments, I want to get there.
This deserves a
😠
Now here's a spicy take from hexbear's own Civility!
al dente pasta sucks, give that shit another 2 minutes
GOOD take
I eat white sugar and a few other edge cases but I still call myself vegan because it's easier than saying "I eat mostly plant based"
I had to Google what's non-vegan about white sugar. ANIMAL BONE CHAR? JFC carnists what is wrong with you people
Firm tofu is hands down better than all other forms of tofu
this is too nonsensical to agree or disagree with. like saying blue is hands down better than 16
firm and silken tofu are for completely different things in completely different contexts. all you've said with this post is that you don't know very much about how to use tofu
I'd normally say telling a Korean they don't know shit about tofu is a wild take, but we're here in a thread asking for wild takes.
Maybe the nonsense is the hot take. Hard to agree with a take you can't comprehend
If you know what a cows life is like and continue to support that exploitation I will distrust you. I do not understand how you can look yourself in the mirror after purchasing a carton of milk again and frankly I don't care.
I said hot takes not normie takes
i too have watched Okja
(all joking aside, at the very least ppl need to stop eating pigs and cows. at the VERY LEAST)
I didnt, putting it on my to watch list. Thanks!
Burgers, bean or otherwise, should be simple
The second you begin to go beyond the scope of "patty with condiment on a bun", you're just putting hats on hats
And that's just silly
But what of we're TF2 sandvich fans and love to collect hats
Pootis sandvich here.
This goes triple for eggs. You're not making the burger better, you're just making eggs worse.
Yes, waiter, I want my burger to goosh egg yolk all over myself and make a big mess
Firm tofu makes for the best analog for chicken, in my opinion. Some firm tofu, roughly sliced, soaked in Soy Vay Teriyaki, fried, and served over rice? Absolutely delicious, good texture, easy to make.
I don't know if it's my area, but I've also noticed firm tofu is generally on the cheaper side, which is doubly nice when you're trying to make healthy meals on a budget.
Ah my supposedly cringe take is actually not cringe? Strike me down for I am too normie!
Better than seitan?!
Veganism good.
Well, it will get me that reaction among normies.
TRUE! But we're here. So big ups for normie take
Fuckin hate it. Food is awful. I'd much rather photosynthesize. (may have an ED? for me it's not super severe though, I just really don't enjoy eating)
Also rice is better than bread hands down.
The number of PB&Js on rice cakes I've made this year might actually cause the thread to catch fire. It's a winner, folks.
this isn't me but my partner: breading/airfrying fish takes too long and so "microwaved fish sticks are just as good in a taco as breaded fish"
This is the real reason I only make fish tacos with grilled fish haha
I would say that's a spicy take but I'll be real, I've done this too.
2025 is Sardine Girl Summer.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2025/05/21/sardine-girl-summer/83741297007/
https://greenweddingshoes.com/sardine-girl-summer-fashion-trend-2025/
// I've enjoyed sardines for years. I prefer sardines in olive oil. Sardines have been a cheap meal. I laughed when I saw the headlines but it feels like the trend might drive the price up.
lmao I'm about to go to Portugal and the Lisbon airport has a "Sardine Museum". I usually walk past it but I might check it out.
Go to a TJ Maxx or HomeGoods, they have sardine blankets, sardine candles, even saw them on a sundress
Looked cute, but it wasn't my size
the feeling of being full after being really hungry is better than any flavour of food. fill me with slop so my tummy stops yelling at me
The full tummy snooze is powerful.
We need to calm down on all the sticky stuff we're putting on food nowadays. Not every entree or sandwich needs to have hot honey or balsamic reduction. Especially as someone with a beard, if there's a sauce that's some sort of syrup, glaze, or reduction it's getting trapped in there and I am going to be miserable until I can wash it out. I realize that this is a problem entirely of my own making, but it's still annoying.
As a beardless person, everything being sticky is also miserable.
And they always give you a single, pitiful, little napkin with it!
A napkin that's only about a quarter ply and dissolves if you even think about water.
It's okay to put sweet chili heat Doritos and barbeque sauce into bean wraps.
Uh okay this one's actually a hot take
doing a pizza with spicy hummus instead of tomato sauce is superior in every way, also pineapples on a hummus pizza is S-tier and italians can eat my ass
Extra firm tofu FTW.
Mashed potatoes as a topping? Sure, not much different than having a cheesy topping on the 'tatoes as a side to a salisbury steak.
Otherwise, I can see it working like the cauliflower crust pizzas. Make a thick potato mash, pre-cook it some in an oven, add the toppings and finish cooking.
I never really liked ice cream at all, and this isn't even me speaking as a vegan. Before going vegan, I hated ice cream, and nowadays, even dairy-free ice cream is totally unappetizing and unenjoyable to me.
Ketchup sucks shit. Really good ketchup only sucks moderately less shit than regular.
What about mushroom ketchup?
I haven’t tried it but I’d bet the shit that it sucks provides good nutrients for the mushrooms.
I agree, because we have ketchup's extended family: barbecue sauce. Oh, you want more tomato? Got that. More vinegar? Sorted. More sweet? Done. Spice level for any palate? Yup.
Miss me with that catsup.
Peanuts don't belong in brownies
or anything for that matter
What about comic strips?
Peanuts directly in the mouth, with salt and/or oil, are fine. Peanut butter cookies, too, if you're a child or have a metabolism that allows eating like one.
Italian food is mid. Sweet food sucks. Acidic food sucks. Savory and sour is where it's at. Czechs are better at cooking than the Fr*nch who think they're culinary masters for making animals eat only butter and using endless garlic and butter on everything. Wine is also garbage. Thick, dark beers (so dark they taste like chocolate and bread) are the optimal way to drink alcohol.
Dunno about the Czech cooking part since I don't think I've had anything Czech besides beer, but 1000% agree.
Czech is the ultimate fusion of Hungarian, German, and Slavic dishes. We've mastered pairing sour foods and dressings with beers that taste like dark chocolate, wheat, and honey with high alcohol and low sugar counts. Idk I'm kinda a chauvinist about our food lmao it's way better than everywhere else
I also like sour plum vodka stuff that is our national drink but it's more for a party shot imo not something you sit down and eat.
Also nothing beats drinking a great beer in Prague near a nice misty river surrounded by dense walkable landscapes of ancient buildings. Only other cities in Europe I'd say are maybe better are Copenhagen and Vienna, our food is better tho
A lot of Czech food is based on sour sauces which works great for vegan conversion recipes btw
I really enjoyed the food I had when I was in Czechia but after being in a lot of other Eastern European countries it didn’t stand out too much. The beer is inarguably the best in the region though and I’ve ended up drinking a lot of Czech beer in other countries. I think my favorite meal so far has been in Romania though, Italy certainly didn’t live up to the hype. I would also put Slovene above Czech food but I’m biased by getting homemade goodies from family there
The KSCM has dispatched a hit squad to your house. Prepare to die, western roader
I mean yeah I like Romanian and Greek too. Also the beer taps in Czechia are just better too the beer is so fresh
Butter is overrated and vegetable oil is a more than suitable alternative for most instances and in double blind testing most people could never guess which one is which
But there's a clear difference of flavor between the two! I know most people's palates are so overwhelmed by strong flavors that they can't taste subtly of milder flavors, but you can't tell me people can't tell the difference between olive oil and butter! Like just put it on a crust of bread and it's like night and day between the two!
You could probably tell the difference between butter and just straight veggie oil but any butter alternative that is solid at room Temp and designed to taste like butter is gonna be indistinguishable to most people. Butter alternatives are generally gonna be formulated out of mostly veggie (soy) oil.
I bet you think that’s butter in the ritz crackers you’re eating.
I made a graham cracker crust with margarine and the texture was all wrong
if you leave tofu to it's own devices it tastes of nothing + the faint taste of soybeans (depending on type)
so if someone doesn't like the taste of tofu
Texture
The texture of refried beans makes it inedible. It also looks like diarrhea.
not a hot take more like a disgusting thought but I wonder what would happen if you made cheese with a mixture of soy and dairy milk, so it has that whey AND soy protein, i wonder what that would be like
Honestly probably delicious
Sorry, I have to do it - Whey is the part of milk that is (mostly) not in cheese. It is the byproduct of cheese making.
Pretty sure its what is left of the solution that didn't react to the rennet. The proteins in the milk will react with the rennet agent until the agent is exhausted, with the leftover solution being the whey.
then how come this vegan dairy milk product is only made of whey, sunflower oil and sugar
Cheese is made from curdling protein and whey is the protein so???
Okay that's a winner hot take right there
the best part is thanks to modern science you could do this and it could still be vegan! Thanks fungal whey protein!!
I know some crunchy tofu on top of mac and cheese tastes great.
I have used coconut cream in some vegetarian doshes, and that can pair well with dairy.
Your geographic distance from Oaxaca/Chiapas is directly proportional to how bad your Mexican food tastes.
A good pizza is the best tasting food, superior even to high end dining.
But most pizza is pretty shit.
Now here's another spicy take!
Standard red beets are better raw and if youre gonna roast em, cut em into wedges first, skin on roasting is for suckers. Tried it at work once just messing around they came out amazing. This is not a hot take but a hot tip, people aren't against it but usually haven't tried it.
I guess my hottest is you can put fucking anything on a pizza if it already goes together and it's fine. Made green curry pizza before and it slapped.
I guess my hottest is you can put fucking anything on a pizza if it already goes together and it's fine.
I knew a place in Ft. McMurray, AB that made an absolutely divine peanut butter, honey, and banana pizza in the 80's. "Pineapple doesn't belong on pizza!" dweebs are decades behind on the pizza meta.
My current favorite is: (pepperoni, ham, any salty meat), pineapple, and jalapenos. Sweet. Salty. Spicy. Savory. All in every bite. Best pizza.
I work at a higher scale pizza place, our chef does international pizza competitions in Vegas every couple years and places in the middle, we make really fucking good pizza. I don't eat meat so yours doesn't do it for me but my current work fave is vodka sauce (when doing prep I add the non vegan stuff last and scoop out my portions that I make vegan for myself) as a base which, pineapple, sweet roasted jalapeños (make a thicc simple syrup, normally simple is equal parts sugar and water and then boil it down, use like a cup of sugar and water, and then add a teaspoon of maple and a teaspoon of molasses and let it reduce for like 20 minutes) toss chopped up jalapeños in that and add a bit of salt and bake em, shallots and vegan feta we get from a nearby place that does vegan chesses. Pizza has been how I pay the rent for the last 4 years and I really really know my way around one.
If you can stand the process, home made beet burgers are absolutely the best form of burger, hands down. Flavor, texture, heft. Perfect.
Im interested. How do you normally do em? Grind em and make patties that way? Process is no obstacle, I've been cooking as a job for 15 years doing generally higher end shit. Plus im sure I can freeze em so I can do a batch day where I end out looking like Ash at the end of Evil Dead 2 but with beet juice.
Side note, have you tried non standard beets? Golden and rainbow beets are both amazing. They're great raw. Golden ones roast good, rainbows lose all their flavor and it's a subtle taste to start. Marinating or brining them has been working nice. I'd go with the brine overall tho. Basically you wanna boil em skin on until theyre still firm but have some give. A fork should go through with some resistance. Ice bath em. At the same time you're doing that bullshit, simmer very very salty water with some anise and maybe a bay leaf for no reason and then let that cool, filter out the spices and let the beets sit in that in a fridge overnight.
the ideal pizza is:
jalapeno, pineapple, mushroom, pepperoni, and anchovies
you get every spot on your tongue activated except for bitter: sweet, salty, umami, savory, spicy, cooling, funkiness from the cheese, acidity
i think, as an american, we can really work on our relationship with food.
also food packaging should be more fun to look at, i just like good graphic design
Best potatoes on pizza are sliced thin and layered under the cheese, just peeking out in the crust side
Yum scalloped potatoes
Cake, cupcakes and most other baked goods and desserts are fucking garbage.
And you can pour all your hot sauces on a dish of pickles and fuck off with that disgusting shit.
I’m not falling for that hot take that’s clearly someone with a fetish for getting yelled at I refuse to participate in that kind of perversion
I'll admit it was written provocatively, but I do honestly and truly hate most baked goods, hot sauce/spicy food, and pickles. I grew up being forced to eat my own cakes at my birthday parties. I like pies though.
Ketchup on rice is good
I put ketchup on my kimchi fried rice.
Most people cut their vegetables too big in food. I thought I didn't like veggies for the longest time, turns out I just don't like big chunks of veggies.
Potatoes are bullshit and not real food. I hate them.
You heard me
Now this is a spicy take
mods!!!!
CW: non vegan post
My take is that as long as you enjoy your food I don't care how you eat it. Put pineapple on your pizza or make a banana and mayo sandwich or whatever weird shit you want if you like it eat it I don't really care. Folks get real bent outta shape with the "how dare you enjoy food the way you want to" takes it's stupid. Eat it how you wanna eat it
Boo with the snuggle sessions
The more I live the more I learn that for most people all we get sometimes are those little moments of joy and I go out of my way to avoid taking those moments away
I blocked a user i usually like interacting because they got really weirdly belligerent about me saying using doritos for nachos isn't all that weird because it's literally a chili lime flavored tortilla chip anyway and then they sicced the mods on me for misgendering because I was just like "ok, guy"
FYI y'all for the record everyone my "ok, guy" was not meant to be an attack on their they them pronouns and i feel like that shoulda been obvious"ok, guy" is like calling everyone dude. Don't. Unless they're a dude or a guy or tell you it's okay. Otherwise it's misgendering even if you don't mean it as such. They correctly sicced the mods on you and it doesn't seem like you've learned from it so hopefully this time you do. If someone doesn't want to be referred to by a gender don't refer to them as similarly gendered words either it's actually extremely easy and unambiguous.
Although you are correct about Doritos for nachos I do that all the time