America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars: Whatever kind of EV you might want, chances are China has it.
America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars
Like most Chinese products I wouldn't trust their quality or their customer support, and would expect the thing to spy on me 24/7.
About the privacy issues...
I plan to rip out the power to internet in any future car I get. Cars shouldn't have to connect to the internet
You do realise that anything made in the USA or even sold to be used in the western world has the CIA sucking it all up.
Like sure China are gonna spy but let’s not pretend the USA, UK, Australia, and Israel ain’t spying on us all.
Exactly..
The Ora Funky Cat had an issue where it would not terminate charging consistently before unlocking the charging cable, leading to customers being greeted by a loud bang when disconnecting the cable.
On the bright side, if they weren't completely awake before, they would be afterwards.
In my experience, Chinese products are way better and more affordable than American ones.
Buying American is just a scam to fool people with more money than sense.
Mark Twain was right.
I want a car without spyware.
Even American cars have spyware. Not sure what your choice is there. At this point, I'll settle for cars with physical buttons for climate and other commonly used controls.
Even American cats have spyware.
And they have since the 1960's: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_Kitty
I want a small, fun roadster. Or a hot hatch. Or a sport wagon. And I didn't see one listed.
I‘m just waiting on the release of the german X-Bus. A modular 600kg vehicle that counts as a quad and can be used as a bus/transporter/pickup/camper and recharges 30-50km of range a day through solar energy on the roof for under 20k€ is exactly what I want from an EV. I don’t need a 50k price tag with shiny smart features.
I've just been looking at those. I can't help but think of the old adage, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is
it basically falls under the vehicle classification of tricycles and golf carts, so the safety standards are, shall we say, more lenient
I would prefer better crashworthiness though
I hope they do better than expected, sadly the lower standards also the downside of their classification. But I think they commited to doing crash tests and also build in ESP by defaultc so at least the basics will be there.
"Whatever kind of EV you might want, chances are China has it."
proceeds to describe a car that's slower and has less range than my e-bike
Kinda curious what the other options are, I got hit with a paywall.
I want an Aptera. Any solar cars available in China? A Telo would be sweet but they're super early on.
I've recently driven a brand new 2023/2024 Maxus T90EV. It had 15 miles on the clock when I drove it. These are the problems I experienced with it and these aren't even touching on my preferences like I thought the seats were uncomfortable, or that regenerative braking is quite aggressive and can't be changed. So I doubt China EVs are going to take over, not in 2024 at least.
I want the kind of EV that's made in Japan.
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So is the rest of the world.
Cut them som slack they just recently made progress in removing the floppy as an essential peice of technology for their citizens
The amount of Chinese propaganda around EVs is astounding
Do they have an electric truck that isn't the size of a small house?
Straight up if I could get an electric Kei truck I'd be over the moon
https://youtu.be/yRG0Wai4sR0?si=QlX6MEx5KMlv27jS
$2k from Alibaba.
Well ... then 1.5k for the good battery and other options and like ... another 5k for shipping related expenses. That blew my mind how expensive it was to import.
And you get a truck 3 dudes can pull backwards with a top speed of like 36mph. It's basically a very robust power wheels.
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"Best"?
[X] Doubt
Another day, another CCP shill post. Tomorrow you'll tell us about their beautiful human rights handling I hope.
This just isn't a CCP shill post. Western and Korean companies simply refuse to sell an EV that isn't a luxury car, and Japanese companies seem to be trying to get out of making EVs period. The only one I could name, Chevy Bolt, got the axe last year.
Like, I look like an American Nationalist next to most Lemmy users (you could say I am in a way, but not in the conventional right-wing flag waver way.) But BYD coming to America would fill a need, even if the cars actually suck. Teslas suck, but they still sell, and there are alternatives to Tesla.
Everything fine at home? Do you really believe the west it's far better at human rights? Really?
Yes. Say something that Xi doesnt like ? Staright to jail/brainwash camp. Say something about Biden being senile ? Laughs on Twitter. Tell me which is worse.
Or maybe the West is just not the be all end all in all aspects of society?
I want a nice cheap basic car without all the nonsense, and 250 miles of range plus battery swap. Neta V fits the bill
I went to one of the links and some of their cars had a 404 error, so I’m guessing that’s what their repairability and warranty would be like in the states.
I would like an electric 2004 Dodge Neon...
Does China have that? Not like in build quality, I know they're trash, just that exact car.
Though not Chinese, there are companies nowadays offering conversion kits for older, ICE cars. Electric Twingo, here I come!
That's already coming down the Pike
Considering how much respect China has for western intellectual property... probably. Somewhere.
They also have fields of decaying vehicles that were built solely to take advantage of the subsidies
idk why you're being downvoted, you're absolutely right lol
Chinas EVs are not built to standard and are used in majority to grab cheat the Central Government for subsidies
I want a free one that prints money.
Considering the subsidies from the cpc, they all kinda do lol
It's the result of massive subsidies. When they stop, this market will crash like a house of cards.
Like their housing market right now.
As a professional car reviewer, I couldn’t travel to test-drive interesting cars during the early pandemic, so I did the next best thing: went to the website Alibaba, and bought a Changli. After I paid $2,000 for shipping and customs, the car arrived at my doorstep months later in a massive cardboard box.
But if you’re hoping that you might be able to buy these cars like you do so many other Chinese-made gadgets, keep dreaming.
Lmao.
BYD would eat the market alive if they sold their EVs here solely on price.
Bite Your own Dick.
I want a top speed of 50, 100 mile range, single seater, and a price tag to match
An ebike can do all that.
This is a ridiculous propagandist article.
It might be, but with the state of EVs in North America (or the auto industry in general), it could also be true.
Not that I'm holding my breath. China is certainly capable of competing with the half-assed efforts seemingly more intended to prove that EVs are bad than actually sell them, but I also wouldn't put it past them to make their cars into even worse spy devices than the other companies have made them into. The only reason I think this might not be the case is they'll get a lot of attention from people specifically looking for stuff like this. But if they include any kind of connectivity features that those security people give a pass on, then future updates can add in the spying stuff later.
I really just want a car that isn't capable of connecting with anything other than a charger, which then only uses the data connection to manage the charging, and payment is managed separately. Even those code readers could be bypassed by just showing that information on the dash display, though I will give a reluctant "this feels like you're just making people spend extra money to do maintenance/repairs" pass for that connection.
I'd prefer a basic connection to my phone, too, like just audio, since a full connection could use the phone to send data home.
Electric kei trucks?
I want an Opener Blackfly
Can't read. It says you need an account.
Batmobile EV?
It is fascinating to read assessments of the new Chinese industry based upon comparison to lowest budget small enterprise items bought 5-10 years ago. Wasn't this originally the same said of Japanese watches and cars? Tesla has zero long tern reliability data and lots of concerns about their failures to step up to repair faults. With electric cars, everyone is at the same point for development, except the Chinese, who have been at it longest
I don’t want any EV
Probably not a well received opinion but the amount of China promoting drivel that goes on here in lemmy is astounding.
Which is the propaganda? The posts touting Chinese achievements in tech, or the posts saying to beware of the Chinese milestones?
Both.
I mostly agree with your statement and we should be aware of both.
Agree. Tankies are on the loose, and not just on their own servers
Eh, I've seen all these same headlines on Hacker News. China is a rapidly developing country with a lot more people, manufacturing, advancements, and news than many other countries so it makes sense that there would be a lot of news coming out of it.
I just visited China for the first time during a business trip a few weeks ago and as an American I was impressed. The US media tries so hard to present only the negative that a lot of Americans aren't even aware of all the achievements they've accomplished.
They were just complaining about how much pro-China stuff is posted here and you're replying with this lol