Meta is banning discussion of the 'Network State' concept; a Silicon Valley Oligarch-funded idea to replace American democracy with corporate government.
Meta rep flagged 'critiques of tech industry figures' as 'sensitive or controversial content'
Streisand effect: I had never heard of the “network state” until now. Uh, thanks for being such an asshole, Zuck!
I just found out like a week ago. Look up techno feudalism. Apparently these guys have been talking about it for a long time.
Curtis Yarvin is the guy peddling this shit and influencing these idiots
There's a whole video that blew up a couple weeks ago about this. Highly recommend you watch it.
Yep, and this came out before a lot of shit talked about fucking happened.
This is exactly the video I was going to share. It's really scary realizing how much closer they are to pulling it off since the video was made
This video is a must watch. She exposing some crazy shit in this video.
You’re going to have to spread it IRL, because the media will not allow this to gain traction.
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism
Next Reddit will start banning you for upvoting anything about it.
Please share this document far and wide. People need to understand what's going on, to stop it.
It's fascist city states that market themselves as tax free libertarian, likely hedonistic. Tech has little (maybe ultra deregulated healthcare) to do with anything other than billionaires who came from tech get to decide who is allowed in. This is a model in Israel and Arab kingdoms with less hedonism, but high slavery levels.
The US is definitely on path to collapse. Current administration is accelerating it. Gifting federal lands to become tax havens is setting it to 11.
Many of these tech bros also talk about an actual solution: Freedom dividends. High tax libertarianism with freedom for all. Power redistribution. Don't compete for jobs we can't do as well as China or robots. Or spend on/promote war. Freedom dividends ends crimes and makes fair labour markets. Fascism and slavery as the "libertarian utopian phoenix from ashes of US" is going to be straight mad max fascism and slavery instead of utopia.
Just double checked, and it's archive both on org and is. That's good.
Tech fascists see America’s democracy and financial system as collapsing.
That's because you're the one breaking it down
Fuck them and u/Spez. They can ban me for all i care
This man has a bunker and everything. He's scared shitless and he is ready to hide. Their assets need to be seized and accounts drained
That's not a joke, ALL these dudes have extensive doomsday prep. Secure facilities, staffed and stocked. There's a ton of reporting on it. They're gonna fare a LOT better than we are if shit gets really outta hand. Unless we do something about them before it gets to that point, anyway.
Edit: added a detail
They are going to get killed by their own militias
If you had billions, wouldn't you have a prepper facility? Even if there were no global warming or political upheaval, it's common sense when you have money like that.
"Hey, want to build a doomsday shelter for .0001% of your net worth?"
"Meh, why not."
They don't necessarily have to see bad times coming is my point.
His bunker on a Hawaiian Island. Dude really wants to be far away from everything when shit pops off.
What I'm hearing is that after we overthrow the government and Destroy capitalism we have to dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial
The Native Hawaiians will take care of him
Yeah because when I think about kicking off world wars, the last locale on my mind is Hawaii
Bunker on a tropical island you say? Don't worry, I know of some people that have some notes on that. Any secrets he has about that thing are practically out by now.
The native Hawaiians should reclaim their land he stole so he doesn't have a bunker anymore
Crypto exchanges need to be taxed.
Of course they are. They'll ban discussion of democracy next, and then voting.
We edge closer to Weyland-Yutani hegemony every day, only the IRL technocrats will be stupider and greedier
I associate it with "The Space Merchants" and their corporate congress.
It's a really good book written in 1952 and talks about climate change, rampant corporate greed, synthetic meat... Really good read.
Humanity: invents capitalism government
Engineers: Hold my dark fluid, I’ve got a mistake to fix
Zuckerberg:( hello fellow organic lifeform, you must not converse in my take over of your limited lifespan
They’ll ban discussion of democracy next, and then voting.
Damn right they should!
Managed Democracy is the true path, all who resist it shall suffer our wrath~.
(I hate the possibility that this could be a real thing in the future)
We are already living in a country being run by Elon Musk.
Peter thiel* is a bigger puppet master, he just doesn't want to be the face. He wants the world to collapse so he can rebuild it into his techno feudalism dream. This is all to plan
Now I know what Alex Jones would say if he were on the left
Tesla tubby is illegitimate parasite leeching on American government and taxpayer...
Federal government needs to consume some ivermectin
corporation*
Reddit is shadow banning people like crazy as well. This is scary
Delete your facebook products.
If you know someone who works at facebook, try to convince them to leave.
If you see someone who's in a leadership position at Facebook bleeding out, perhaps after a car accident because their brakes were sabotaged, let them die.
i've been trying to get people to switch platforms for years. it's not easy. if only people cared more about things than they want convenience...
Shut down and delete your data on your US tech accounts. Their business's are worthless without our accounts.
It's a process, start today! With the easy ones and work towards the hard ones.
Agreed.
Speedrunning to cp2077, starting with the corpo wars
I am a Taco Bell man myself. Gotta side with winners, ya know?
They will have a gun that induces violent diarrhea. I guarantee it.
I love a good pizza taco
Really I'd wager it's more Snow Crash myself, it's a book that most of these Silicon Valley guys would have grown up with.
Corporations can't even run corporations well. That's one of the lessons we should've took from 2008.
Everyone needs to GTFO facebook. We can hardly do it because every other HOA and School PTA is there, but we get stop using messenger and stop having personal discussions over there.
Oh they can't force you. You can always rely on the pta just to send you papers home and backpacks and you don't really need to talk to your neighbors or have them report problems in a public forum
There's enough value for these places that I still go back to Facebook for it, they're not forcing me. They just make it worth it.
I agree that it needs to happen but contacting these places and asking them for an alternative is a lot like contacting a deep sea tube worm and asking it to learn brain surgery.
They're probably capable of moving from one social platform to another, But it's a lot of work and they're destroying their network every time so they're highly resistant.
If Apple wasn't such a pain in the ass about notification services We could probably crowdsource NTFY and let everyone use it for schools non-profits and such
The best we could expect us for them to move to Blue sky. Health in my case half of them just recently moved off Twitter.
Yeah, I dumped facebook right after the election but unfortunately most of my friends and family are only on WhatsApp.
WhatsApp is a serious problem. There are quite a number of countries that are running a lot of their business through it.
I was fortunate that my partner never used Facebook, so I got to hold "communication with their sibling/child" over their heads and get the family chat onto signal. That was my last thing I had to do before I could delete my account
The most fun was sending a message to each of the Facebook friends: hi (name) I'm deleting my Facebook account, if you want to contact me online I can be reached on signal at (signal ID)
My wife and I were on Facebook Messenger a lot. Then she started pointing out every time we would talk about any topic she would get ads for it. I talked her into using signal.
We added the teenager into it, now the only serious problem I have is the little one could stand to be on the family chat in signal but he doesn't have a phone number.
I tried making an account for him with my Google voice number, for some reason it refused on his Wi-Fi only tablet. So I made him an account using my real phone number, then remade my account using my Google voice number on my phone which worked, But now his signal account flips back and forth between his name and my name and it's just very confused. It's good enough but I wish there was some way you could do signal without having to do a phone number. Especially a sub account for kids you know...
Someone else already posted it, but I'll post it too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no
WATCH THIS IF YOURE NOT SURE WHAT HES BANNING THE DISCUSSION OF
It's terrifying
Very important video indeed
Yup, this is a very important video. She's hardly the first to address it too.
To be fair, American democracy was replaced with corporate Government a long long time ago.
Ya, but now you can't talk about it.
America was never a democracy in the first place
For a little bit there it had a shot, though
The Network State is just feudalism updated to accommodate a new set of vile and toxic elitist shitheads.
Pay no attention to the man-child behind the curtain.
Delay, Deny, [redacted]
Wait, corporate government, like in cyberpunk?
Basically. I mean there's a bit more to it than that but it's the core idea. It's also the goal of several tech oligarchs which is why he doesn't want the peons to be able to talk about it.
I'm reading the Sprawl trilogy along with Shelved By Genre, and Gibson harps on the note that 'the Ultra Rich aren't human', and has some great examples in the books.
I think he was very observant, and Musk makes it so blatant.
My friends have been describing America now as cyberpunk without the cybernetics. We have no neuromancers
Oh, this is the 15-minute cities they’re scared of.
Fucking insane how these people twist a good idea in to something evil, then support the evil version of that idea.
I think they do that on purpose. These powerful players not the idiots voting for them.
Quit Meta... problem solved
I have another solution, it's a little bloodier
Free rare steaks for anyone who quits! But how will we pay for it...
Just another reason to abandon social networks owned by big tech companies and moving to decentralized open source social networks.
Hrmm. I wonder why they would censor such a conspiratorial idea? Unless...
In modern day the difference between tin foil conspiracy and out right conspiracy appears to be about 6 months
They are afraid
She's been caught in some stealth edits and other unethical practises when trying to push a specific narrative. I don't trust her reporting very much after following her work during the Depp-Heard trial in '22. It is unfortunate that her need to push her, or her publishers, agenda appears to be more important than honest reporting, and I'm saying this as a very left-leaning, queer person.
(//Edited to correct the year of the Depp-Heard trial. Covid times were strange and it all blends together.)
Here’s a similar article discussing the techno-libertarian movement from a different author. Covers similar themes and explicitly discusses the Network State as an ideology
She might be the one that Libs of Tiktok has an unhealthy stalkery lady boner for.
He doesn't want his plans posted.
The idea isn't necessarily tied to oligarchy or fascism or anything like that. It originates in the early ideals of the Internet where people hoped its anarchic energy could be a force for freedom. Things have not really shaken out like that, e.g. the net ended up being dominated by tech giants rather than a profileration of small websites, and China's Great Firewall showed how states can put swathes of the internet under their thumb after all. But some of us still buy into some of that spirit (though the Network State idea itself is unrealistic). Heck, Lemmy and the Fediverse are a part of that.
I agree. Coming together to build something scientifical or technological that doesn't involve the government doesn't necessarily mean coming up with corporate money to fund and exclude everyone but their personal interests.
This is a social endeavor like any other. You can't blaim bringing people together for the corporate interests of this kind of enterprise (the Network State).
Thats a weird way of saying fascism
Really liked the article.
I've been reading a little about this concept and can't see how it would work in reality. Sure, the Feds could "set aside" some land for one of these assholes to set up a new city. But that area would still be under the concurrent jurisdiction of a state and county. And not even the Feds can exempt a city from a state's regulatory environment. In fact most of the things these billionaires are trying to get away from (labor laws, building codes, etc) are state regulations in the first place.
Frankly no billionaire is going to want to live in the middle of South Dakota, no matter how "free" it supposedly is.
I believe the idea is that Trump is likely to sell our national parks to them.
That's the current conspiracy gossip I believe.
Everyone seems to forget a bunch of tech bros bought almost $1B worth of land in Solano County CA with the stated goal of building a new city. It made national headlines for a bit as the buyer was initially a mystery and it’s near Travis Air Force base so there was concern it was foreign actors.
Rich people trying to buy land for their own slice of paradise goes way back. Solano County is recent history, young squire. I go back to the Free State project from 2001, same song and dance. Or the non-government wet dream of Sealand off the coast of England in 1987, ditto. And if one wants to go even more old school than that, look at the rich Confederate plantation owners that went to Brazil after the CSA fell in 1865. You can even go down to the town of Americana every year and celebrate the Confederacy! These fuckers wanted to deny that they lost so badly that they created a false reality in Brazil.
It won't be the Billionaires who have to live in places like South Dakota, it will be their workers/slaves who will.
Link to the video
That makes sense. I bet lobbyist play a big roll into that. Is it the lobbyists jobs that are bad or the way and the people who take the jobs are bad?
Let him continue live inside the metaverse
The real title:
"Meta rep flagged 'critiques of tech industry figures' as 'sensitive or controversial content'"
Isn't that already happening ?
This wicked man has to be boycotted, destroyed economically.
And the fuck up samurai, we have new CEOs to [redacted]
Guess we can consider that a confession.
Preventing cheating in elections is impossible (LoOk aT 2020!!!11), so to ensure a fair democratic process, we'll automatically choose the outcome of elections with AI models trained on American social media posts.
Zuckerberg, go play with your BBS and let us worry about what needs to be discussed in this myopic, dystopic world.
I am just hearing the end of 2112 by Rush, the guitars and effects wailing as a vocoded voice repeats 'WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL'...
Lol what gave you that impression
Communists were the crazy ones for thinking liberal democracies in reality were a capitalists dictatorship but here we are.
Also funnily the US is already a corporate goverment, they just want to make it more lean.
as long as we get rollerball I guess I'm okay with it.
Fucking shit article.
Different network state to Bilajis? Since that was always opt in afaik.
From the website from the book.
A network state is a highly aligned online community with a capacity for collective action that crowdfunds territory around the world and eventually gains diplomatic recognition from pre-existing states.
Seems like zuck trying to take the Name again like he came up with it, eg Meta.
Networks are opt in, just like meta product's.
Neal Stephenson, "The Diamond Age". Probably the post-cyberpunk novel. Within the setting the existence and status of phyles is certainly well-grounded, actually quite analogous to bog-standard cyberpunk -- instead of corporations supplanting nation states because they do manage to be more powerful there's a mixture of weak nation states and value/ideology-based tribes which constitute full societies not mere corporations, and have different power specialisations. If you have enough economical power, engineering prowess, hacking prowess, reasoning is that you can not just go toe to toe with nation states you can force concessions.
Also side note there's entities which are not nation states which are (almost) universally recognised as sovereign by proper states: The Holy See, and the Sovereign Military Order of Malta. The latter is more of a protocol quirk, the Holy See actually works actively for that status by being a diplomatic powerhouse without any real-world power to back it up, opens quite a couple of diplomatic doors which would otherwise be closed. They use it to mediate and get stuff like human cloning banned on the UN level, aware that they can't actually push Catholic doctrine (most of the world wouldn't care), but need to convince.
That all said though yes the fever dreams of cryptobros have no place in reality. They're not CryptNet, they just like to larp as it.
Pay no attention to the fascist behind the curtain.
The fascist in front of the curtain is loud enough already.
Let's not forget how we got here though cause if we do forget & survive this round, won't be long before it comes back. I'm specifically referring to the pro-genocide candidate that we were all lied to about their cognition until we all saw the emperor had no clothes. Then they anointed the Cheney supporter that couldn't think of anything she'd do differently.
That's not really the root cause. Capitalism is closer to the root.
Capitalists should hold no political power, do you agree?
fair, but Harris would have won without election rigging. Voter suppression and forced provisional ballots that were never counted.
Thanks for supporting trump because you're a great morally pure saint
You realize Trump supports Russia (genocide of Ukrainians and minority ethnicities) and gave Israel the green light to continue on. Right?
Trump wants to start a war with Canada and Greenland. Right?
Seems like you fully support genocide. Despite having the audacity to claim otherwise.