Trump tells DOJ to prosecute teachers who “unlawfully” support trans or nonbinary students
Trump tells DOJ to prosecute teachers who “unlawfully” support trans or nonbinary students
Blatantly unconstitutional, and he knows it. But the point isn't to win on this issue, it's to move the Overton window a little more and to sow more chaos.
I think we left our legal system behind a while ago.
It can still be used to cause delays and make things as difficult as possible for them.
Our nation is being led by an anti-democratic felon rapist conman with a long history of illegality. Yeah, our justice system is the butt of a joke.
It's only unconstitutional until his SCROTUS lackeys reinterpret the Constitution to mean something it very clearly doesn't.
This could actually be a good starting point for a nationwide action. Very few collective actions are as effective as a nationwide teacher strike. The call to action is also relatively straightforward. Something like “D.C. shouldn’t regulate what we teach in our classrooms “.
There's just no words for this level of evil.
The book burning and internet crackdown will surely start soon. Kiss the first amendment goodbye.
Unfortunately, these are already happening.
Source on the book burnings? There's a list on Wikipedia with nothing very recent listed on it.
Surely this will finally rein in the price of eggs.
And ended the war in Ukraine
And free Palestine.
Being an educator in this day and age seems so difficult, we are taught all the studies and theories of healthy child development, how to promote healthy social emotional learning, but we must fight parents and increasely the law to maintain a safe, healthy social environmental layer.
Good educators are already beaten down from so many things and have become rare, but I know most of my colleagues and friends have no intention of bending knee to this and policies aimed at hurting students we fight for, and I desperately hope this sentiment is shared by many across our country.
I desperately hope this sentiment is shared by many across our country.
I'll leave this here...from 3 days ago: Teacher asks ICE to raid his school, says many students 'don't even speak English'
That’s the point, that’s what they want and they want good teachers to be sick of it and leave so they can either put some uncertified person in your place or none at all and keep education for private schools. Trumpy said it himself, he loved the uneducated. It’s sadly all part of their plan to keep critical thinkers at bay so they can do whatever they want and nobody bats an eye.
Happy cake day!
This really is reminiscent of early Nazi Germany, with an obsession over trans people (like Jews), and the idea that they're the root of so much evil, and the constant implication that things would be better if they just go away...
The Nazis didn't start by rounding up the Jews, they started with the "sexual deviants". The parallel is a lot closer than you think.
Yes, and while you are absolutely correct, let's also not forget that the early victims consisted not just of sexual deviants, but also of journalists, teachers, scientists, artists, etc. Basically any kind of intellectual, anyone who could threaten the propaganda machine. And political opponents, of course. Oh and books. Don't forget books. And disabled people.
Let's see. Who is Trump attacking? Transgender people? Check. Teachers? Check. Scientists? Check. Political opponents? Check Intellectuals in general? Check. Anti-intellectualism has been going strong for a while now of course. Books (information in general)? Check. Librarians? Check. Disabled people? Not sure about this one.
Trump and his cronies have watched a few WW2 documentaries and thought they were blueprints. His racism/bigotry might have a different prime target, but the whole playbook is a copy.
Oof... Thanks. I appreciate the history lesson, as they did not teach that little detail in my schools.
Really it's true but swap out trans for Republicans. (Things would be better without them)
I have fantasized about what the country would be like if we let them have their own land and government. So you'd be left with a "liberal" America and a "conservative" one as two countries. My prediction is the conservative one would be mostly dead of disease within a year or two and the liberal one would actually be able to legislate a bit, making incremental improvements like a functioning country
Regressionists will always hold back progress.
In the executive order issued Wednesday evening, titled “Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 schooling,” Trump directs the attorney general to work with local and state officials to investigate teachers who “unlawfully facilitat[e] the social transition of a minor student.” The order defines “social transitioning” to include using a trans student’s name and pronouns, recognizing a student as nonbinary, or allowing them to use the restroom that aligns with their gender identity.
Ordinary people are going to have to start accepting the risk and actually fighting back. They're a week and a half in, and already ordering Americans not to even recognise the existence of trans and nonbinary children, on threat of prosecution. It's not just about denying them healthcare now (which in itself is terrible), it's about preventing trans kids knowing anyone even sees them for who they are, or that they are seen and loved. The only outcome will be depression, loneliness and suicide, and Republicans want your kids dead if they don't fit some very narrow mold they've pulled out of their own violent insecurities.
People need to fight now. Each day people lie low and wait to see where this is going, the chances of ever fighting back get slimmer.
People tend to follow by example. "People should do this" and "people should do that" is all well and good, but unless you're saying it while doing the thing you're telling others to do, it's not going to make much impact.
Agreed! In my little online ecosystem, there's been a number of stories of federal workers resisting, cities teaching people their rights to thwart ICE, etc. Since that may or may not make it out of certain bubbles, we should be boosting stories like that and sending them around so others don't feel alone and do feel empowered to resist.
I agree, mere talk online isn't going to achieve much, but it might help demonstrate that this sense of urgency is shared.
What
The
Actual
Fuck?
By supporting they mean what? Calling the kid the name they want to be called by?
They don't necessarily need to explicitly teach gender and racial studies, whatever. But don't tell my kids' teachers they can't be courteous to the kids. The kids don't care one bit when someone who was a girl comes back saying they are a boy, they are nonchalant as fuck about it.
You have lost this round, conservatives. The generation who will raise the next generation is already grown up with more reasonable teaching and parents who model tolerance, there are too many of us for you to be able to control us.
Go back to your lairs and work on some other evil plan.
They dont wanna go after todays kids, they want the next generation. One decade of control, and they can raise Gen Beta in the bigoted pseudo50s hellacape they always dreamed of
See the comment by floofloof. It has the order's wording, and it's disgusting.
Surely it is THIS that will help those grocery prices...
“No transgender, no operations—you know, they take your kid—there are some places, your boy leaves for school, comes back a girl. Okay? Without parental consent.” He added, “At first, when I was told that was actually happening, I said, you know, it’s an exaggeration. No: it happens. It happens. There are areas where it happens.”
Gotta wonder if he's manufacturing reality or if he's also caught up in a manufactured reality.
I can't believe there's a single person who believes that children are being snuck into hospitals to just have a quick 20,000 dollar surgery that takes months to fully recover from during lunch and sneaking them home without anyone noticing
If they had critical thinking skills, we wouldn't have Trump as president.
It's definitely both.
He's a conman by nature, not by intelligence.
He inherently knows he has to manufacture lies to get what he wants, but he's very clearly not an actually intelligent person and you can clearly tell sometimes that he's 100% bought into some conspiracy theories, the same way any dumb person would. The guy's brain is mostly fried, but the conman in his nature is still there. Will be until he's 6 feet under.
He knows his out is now "I saw it on TV"
Hey acceleratiionists and people who Harris "wasn't good enough" for, remember that you could've helped stop this shit before it even happened. Now people are going to suffer and die under this regime that you helped bring to power
Them: Don't care, at least my eggs are cheaper...wait
Them: Don't care, I showed America that their two party system sucks...wait
Then: Don't care, voting doesn't matter anyway...wait
Them: As long as it's hurting the right kind of people more
Those people are far too stupid to grasp the mistake they made.
Ignorance truly is bliss.
Until you're thrown in an oven.
Objection!
Overruled.
So, no blame goes to Harris for not doing easy to do things, to get voters to want to vote for her?
All blame goes to the voters given an impossible choice?
Hey DNC, stop blaming the voters you told to stay home.
Crickets from conservatives who love to screech about free speech
They only like free speech when it's their voices.
Me/Mine is the conservative ideology boiled down to two words.
if you're still waiting on conservatives to change their tune because you pointed out their hypocrisy, then you kinda just deserve whatever you get.
Supporting people is lawful.
Whether the laws he passes are legitimate, up for debate.
Executive orders only effect federal organizations. Public schools are all state officiated. I don't know a single teacher that falls under his purview. Aka any teacher punished should win in court without issue unless the courts wish to completely illegitimate themselves.
completely illegitimate themselves.
Uh...I hate to break it to you, but that happened during Trump's first term.
Ive seen one idea that its mostly focused on red states with so called nickname laws, and encouraging an expansion of said laws. Basically putting in federal resources to help enforce stupid state laws, I suspect that it would be ineffective at best though. Federal law enforcement per agency is probably roughly comparable to state agencies, just as an example the are avout 10,000 special FBI agents and about 38,000 employees total for comparison theres about 6,500 CHP officers cant find the total employees though. What im saying is that local and county will probably have greater enforcement capabilities per person on average meaning this is pointless at best.
If we don't ban trans people, then Trump could end up mistakenly raping a dude, and we can't have that! What would he even grab them by?
I believe it's known as a bussy.
I feel like a screenshot of your comment (without context for best effect) would make a great post somewhere
A subtle aspect is that many of these people do like fucking trans women, but those trans women need to be vulnerable and disposable. When job discrimination is legal/encouraged, trans people turn to prostitution.
A lot of the conservative Christian machine is really a massive D/s kink. Punishing women for having sex, murdering trans women for making their dick hard.
Let's play the "replace the group with jews and see if they sound like a Nazi"
Trump tells DOJ to proescute teachers who unlawfully support jewish students.
Eyup
Fascism isn't coming.
It's already here.
They already made women second class citizens. Now they're moving on to vulnerable minorities.
Sound like any other examples from history?
I'd say the alarms have started going off, but they've been going off for quite some time now. Deaf and dumb Americans as a whole can't hear them though.
But what does “discriminatory equity ideology” actually mean? The order defines it as “ideology that treats individuals as members of preferred or disfavored groups, rather than as individuals, and minimizes agency, merit, and capability in favor of immoral generalizations.”
Oh for fucks sake. That literally describes how racism, sexism, and bigotry work: by treating people as part of a preferred or disfavored group instead of individuals.
But what does “discriminatory equity ideology” actually mean?
In reality it means anything that challenges white cishet male supremacy. But they'll couch it in the doublespeak of meritocracy.
But they'll couch it in the doublespeak of meritocracy.
"Stop trying to make it sound sexy"
Vance
I think it’s closer to “whatever they want it to mean so they can persecute their enemies”
Dipshit Donnie, your executive orders are not laws. They also only apply to federal government. As far as I know, we don't have federal schools except for the armed forces academies.
They'll probably end up making federal aid contingent on being assholes. Just like how Reagan coerced the states into 21 year old drinking age by withholding highway funds.
It works like this:
While EOs are not laws, they have the potential to do massive amounts of damage because most of the government runs on agencies under control of the Executive. And while universities and public schools are not federal, they receive shit tons of funds through grants, contracts, and subsidies from a wide array of federal agencies (see: academic panic at the NSF and NIH halting grant review and funding as a result of Trump’s recent orders).
We're deciding right now how much power Executive Orders have.
It had strict definitions for its use, now the president is trying to stretch that power further.
How many people comply without being physcially forced is what determines how much power he truely has.
That is exactly what I was saying how Reagan coerced states to raise drinking age.
Laws have actual words though. You can't just make up a fraud case. You have to prove to judge and jury beyond a reasonable doubt the law was violated.
Trump answered a voter’s question about failing school systems by saying, “No transgender, no operations—you know, they take your kid—there are some places, your boy leaves for school, comes back a girl. Okay? Without parental consent.” He added, “At first, when I was told that was actually happening, I said, you know, it’s an exaggeration. No: it happens. It happens. There are areas where it happens.”
Good lord. In a world where people will believe something like this, what hope is there really.
So guys, unrelated question.
Say I have a bear that isn't a protected species that wanders around the area. Say I'm a lot of bit nervous of this bear destroying stuff towards the edge of my property, but my property edge is pretty damn far.
What kind of equipment would I need to take care of this bear, if the agencies and law enforcement wont do anything to protect me or my vulnerable neighbors from this bear?
Well, a Henry in 45-70 should handle it just swimmingly. Find someone who knows how to process the carcass first, though, they are HUGE!
That said, cops tend to dislike it when you shoot at them. Locals and ICE.
Believe it or not, I have a bear guy.
What he does with them? I don't really wanna know.
Edit: he does eat them, and apparently the pelts make awesome rugs but are a bit scratchy
I’m assuming this is a sort of coded question about how to defend trans people.
But since I’m not able to decypher it here’s an honest answer to your wildlife query.
The wildlife will live as it sees fit. If you don’t want it on your property, you will need to invest in fencing. If you wish to protect yourself from the wildlife, it means avoiding confrontations and encounters, and possibly carrying pepper spray.
What if we just [REDACTED]
This is insanity
We just keeping making it harder to be a teacher without paying them any more.
How can we organize funding for a national teachers' strike?
Their unions already have strike funds, so send money to the unions, ie AFCSME NYSUT etc
There's nothing unlawful about helping a trans person do their homework
No I recently heard someone say that it was a requirement by law to start being discriminatory. This was coming directed at a librarian about the fact they had books pertaining to the positivity of trans non binary ...... But had failed to attain any counter since libraries have to have a equal representation to a counter opinion available. And as to why the library wasn't following the law and now removing said books from its shelves at that moment since it's now law to be discriminatory. And yes they mentioned it being a requirement that you discriminate and report nondiscriminatory behavior i .... When the fuck are we right now is this Stalin era russia?
"Love and acceptance unlawful in Trump's America," better title.
The fuck is the first amendment?
Dead.
What a nice old man.
This is such a non-issue. All the shit we could be working on, but we're going to pick on school kids trying to figure themselves out.
They need to tell people they are doing something and solving issues and it's alot easier to solve issues you create then those that actually plauge society.
‘Tell me I’m part of an in-group. That I’m great and that I belong and that nothing will change that. Then show me an out-group, and make them suffer so I can feel even better about being in the in-group.’
That is what Conservatives have been asking for. That is what they really want. And he’s giving it to them, as a thank-you for getting him into office.
See also: ‘He’s not hurting the right people!’
The bonus is this also advances the Nazi agenda.
How long do we have to wait for impeachment?
Dictators are never removed by peaceful means. You can't vote them out. You can't impeach them.
Have you noticed how nothing is being passed through the house or senate? He's not getting impeached. It happened twice before with no results.
Yeah, I don't know why I expect safety mechanisms to still work. It's an adjustment getting used to the collapse of a democracy
Him croaking of old age is a more likely outcome.
hey look, it's the reason squid (and others) left
I'll never forgive the people who worked to put this fascist in power again.
I blame them most of all. They saw what was at stake and still demanded perfection on every issue, nitpicked, sowed division, and acted like we were having a totally different election where "not Trump" was an actual entry on the ballot (it wasn't).
At least the Trump voters were honest about their intentions.
At least there's no more genocide going on anywhere in the world.
Top names on that list are Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and the Democratic political consultants who destroyed her campaign.
What do you expect us non-Americans to do about it?
Such a reactionary take. There’s a more than good chance the election was manipulated through voter suppression and purges. If we continue to look to the past and blame each other for failing to prevent Trump, the fascists will continue to use that to their advantage. There will be many Trump voters that were misinformed that want to resist, we must welcome the support. To get through this and move forward positively, we must look past grievances and work together.
The only people beneath Trump supporters in this society are people that didn't bother to vote. They are scum.
I have met people who voted for trump because they didn't like Hillary, or didn't like biden and "didn't realize what he'd do" and far, far too many people he targets like immigrants who support him, for a Myriad of reasons, but many, saying he wont target us because we supported him or "He's not going to target us, just 'insert country here'". The leopards earing faces voters are very real and have put so much on themselves and everyone around them.
That excuse runs hollow this time around. He said exactly what he was going to do and is doing it. None of his is a surprise except to especially ignorant.
Well we couldn't have bLuEmAGA in power after all! That would have been worse!/s
Yeah! God forbid we keep Democracy running for a few more years while we all get our collective asses into gear and start tackling issues one at a time instead of being tugged to and fro from issue to issue!
One can dream, at least.
I feel the mad in you, I sincerely do, but when the whole ocean is moving in a certain way due to underlying currents, it is incorrect to place the blame on any individual droplet, for none of them individually are responsible for it or have the power to control or alter it. Understand that the droplets themselves are moving because of the said currents. The best you can do is accept reality and plan your course ahead. The mad only burns you from inside without solving any problem.
PS: to everyone commenting below me, now mad at me -
No, they each made the individual choice to back a fascist.
Absolving them of that responsibility is the same infantilizing condescension that liberal media has been pushing for a decade now.
You don't get to tell me how to feel about those who made the people I love unsafe, and I don't owe a single one of those fascist bastards forgiveness.
He's not blaming individuals, he's blaming a collective. A conglomerate of willfully ignorant, and often hateful, voters. So yes, don't personally attribute this to Bill So-and-so, but if you see Bill fly a confederate flag and talk about trans kids, you know Bill is part of the collective and you can go ahead and add some blame on his pile.
If only the Nazis at the Nuremberg trials had you as a lawyer. They were only following orders, after all.
Nobody understands population statistics... Your entire post is correct at a higher level than those shouting individualism, but they cannot comprehend the aggregate consequences or truth.
awww. that's gonna hurt their fee fees. well, i sure am glad we figured out how to stop fascism.
Oh, I forgot every single comment has to be about how to stop fascism!
Glad you told us how in your post.
Thanks for gracing us with such a smart comment. Sounds like I touched a nerve.