I'm starting to wonder if they've thought this out.

They think the sun works like a spot light. I'm not kidding. It's the dumbest shit

https://wiki.tfes.org/Flat_Earth_-_Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_you_explain_day.2Fnight_cycles_and_seasons.3F

In their own gif they need to make the light the sun puts out oblong which makes no fucking sense and there's no explanation as to why you can't always see the moon.

It's so stupid it's embarrassing to even debunk them.

The Earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity.
HOOO BOY,
that is so stupid, Hexbear might actually try to convince itself that it is true.
- I almost left Lemmy because of the crap I always had in my feed.
  Then I realized all the bottom of the barrel content and takes were all from the hexbear instance. I started blocking any community from that server. It’s like a whole new world
- I sure hope a hydrogen atom doesn’t get in our way and destroy the multiverse with the collision.
- After reading that, I've felt like I lost many wrinkles from my brain.
- I like how they take into account special relativity by saying, that earth will never reach the speed of light because of it. But then they forget, that this will lead to less acceleration as earth gets faster and faster (and heavier and heavier).
Not just that. In order for the sun to be visible 24/7 from Antarctica during its summer, the light from the sun would have to morph from a circle into a right going around the whole earth. I have no idea what could cause that.
- Maybe it's just a big Hue light strip.
- they replace the normal lamp with
  in the winter
- I have no idea what could cause that.
  A flat earth, obviously.
Why did we ever put lead in gasoline? Now I have to live in this reality.
- To prevent engine knocking.
So the world is flat so we can't fall off, walls of ice keep the water from falling off its edges. Okidoki.
But the sun, moon, stars and planets don't fall out of the sky? They are kept up there magically?
It's great to read, as is most fantasy.
- They consider them "luminaries" whatever those are supposed to be. Not actual objects. Cause that makes sense.
I'm trying to figure out how they think the sun can ever pass below the horizon in that model and it seems like their explanation is.... magnets???
- Fucking magnets, how do they work?
  Idk.
  They're magic, they can do anything.
- Basically, there is no flat earth model. Every time they present one, there's an easily observable fact that blows it apart. This from the people who constantly bleat "believe your eyes!"
I love that they explain the seasons, and reference the hemispheres 😂
shouldn't have clicked that link on my normal browser. now my "personal" ads are going to flood me with far right conspiracy bs, adult diapers, "oWnEd tHe LiBs" content, lifted trucks for sale, truck nuts, "silver nitrate", and trump hat bs.
- Hell yeah, siphon that money out of them
  Every time you see one of those ads is one time that someone else won't see it
Have they explained why pictures of the moon taken from Sydney Australia are upsidedown from pictures of the moon taken in NYC?
- As a Sydneysider I can confirm our photos are the right way up
- Wouldn't you sort of expect that in a spotlight-style moon?
  I say sort of, because what you'd actually expect, at least if I'm picturing it correctly, is that the moon would be rotated by about 130°. To be fully upside down you'd want to be off the coast of South America. And even then it'd be a rotation of 180°, which is not the same as a reflection.
I think they're just trolling us
they really think the sun is this small star (not big or bright enough to light the entire Earth), and that spins over Earth. Amazing.
You’re just one of those round earth conspiracy weirdos
/s
It would be trivially easy to disprove it if it were worth the money to load them onto a plane and circumnavigate the globe in multiple directions, showing that there is no "wall of ice" and you always end up back where you started eventually. But it's not, so they can continue to be idiots.
- One of them spent $20k on a fancy gyroscope which proves the rotation of the earth and they ignore the shit out of stuff like that.
  Visible curvature? Fish eye lens or "refraction". Images from space? CGI.
  At one point a flat earther launched himself into "space" with his homebuilt rocket to prove there was no curve, sadly it failed and the guy lost his life in the process.
- I'll give them one thing which is that they're very creatively stupid
Dont you love it when you use a light bulb outside and it instantly becomes day time from all the light you are projecting. Good times.
How do they think eclipses work? I couldn't see any mention of that on the page.
- Not to mention the difference between a lunar eclipse and a solar eclipse. Neither one can even happen in their model, let alone both.

Wow, you outsmarted Flatearthers. Impressive.

They've played us for fools
- They played us like a damn fiddle!
They flick off the lamp as if it was a bean?

As a passenger on an aircraft, how is it I can see the curvature of the Earth?

Quite simply, you cannot…

It is likely that those claiming to have personally visually discerned curvature from an aeroplane are experiencing a form of confirmation bias.

Oh, ok then

Ignoring that ancient mathematicians were able to calculate the size of the earth with pretty good results, considering their "world spanning empires" are what we'd consider regional now.
Also that you can literally watch a ship come over the horizon, seeing it's sails first before the body actually moves into view. If the earth were flat the entire thing would be visible the entire time.
You can't reason people out of positions they didn't reason themselves into.
- The ships thing, they explain that away with "sea mountains"....I wish I was kidding....
They also point out that passenger aircraft don't fly above 60,000ft, only to ignore footage from other types of aircraft ascending above the stratosphere and clearly showing the globe
They're just lying to themselves, doing mental gymnastics, or whatever you wanna call it. Thus no point in arguing with them
I mean, technically you cannot descern a curve until you're very high up but that's primarily because the earth is so god damn huge and our eyes are not scientific equipment.
it's all a conspiration mate
Can't they take something straight to check if it's confirmation bias?
Like hold up a ruler or something against the curve?
- They did. Can't remember the name of the documentary done flat earners made but the used a flashlight and two boards with holes in them at x distance and said if the earth is flat they should see the light through the hole. They couldn't until they lifted the board up confirming the earth isn't flat. Still had to make up bs to explain it though I think.
- Big Ruler is in on it.
  Not sure what they’re all getting out of this but I’m on to them!

I wasnt a flat earther before, but now I am a lamp-sunner

I'm a flat birther. Every human is flat when they're born, and then they inflate slowly. I've seen a newborn baby, but I know it is true.
We need a mothmen community for us Lampers.

Everybody knows they turn off the sun at 8pm

Its old tech thats why it takes some time to turn on and off.

holy shit. you've made a believer out of me. I'm now a flat earther!

checkmate globers

The only time I ever see or hear anything about flat earth is when people bitch about it on Reddit and now here.

My brother is a flat-earther. He talks about it all the time. One of these days I'm gonna throw him right off the edge.
- I'm very sorry that you have to deal with that. Truly. I hope you are able to maintain the relationship and wish you the best.
- Is he mentally unstable or unhealthy besides that one symptom? History of mental illness? TBI? What would happen if you took him on an airplane trip around the world from say NYC to London to Tokyo to LA back to NYC? I've never encountered such insanity except for online (in more ways than one heh) so this is pretty interesting to me.
Netflix has entire documentaries about these clowns. I wish the idea of a flatearth was something that I only heard about on Reddit or Lemmy.
- sometimes you see the title of documentaries on programs that are available on netflix also! its ruining your life!
This is like saying that the only time that I hear people say that the election was stolen is online, which is true. Yet there are a ton of people who believe it. I just don't associate with republicans / stupids.
- You must live in a blue state. Or at least a bubble. Those people are everywhere so you should feel grateful that you think they are as mythical as flat earthers. (Maybe I should too I guess idk.)
- I work with people who most likely believe in that, at the very least that they’re hardline trumpers.
sharing a meme about it is "bitching" about it?
It's a meme, bro
Same about most things that people on social media rage about tbh.

The flat earth sun works more like one of those flatbed file scanners.

It stops working whenever the drivers are updated?
- Thanks for reopening my almost forgotten trauma lmao

Alright, here is my take:

Gravity bends light. Therefore, there is a tiny black hole between earth and the sun. You see, the black hole redirects the sunlight juuuuuuust perfect to simulate that sphere nonsense you sheeples believe in.

Though even then, the sun would never go below the horizon, it would fly off in a stright line and disappear. Going below the horizon only works on a globe
- The idea is that the light is small and close. It doesn't need to go over the horizon to disappear in the distance.
  I'm not sure how they explain the random pattern the lights would need to travel for different seasons or why it looks so massive as it rises or sets.
Right round like a record baby…
- the record's been playing a lot of screamo since the whole homo sapiens thing happened.
Oh so that's why history keeps repeating

Well when you want to go to sleep, you just say "flip me over, sky daddy". Then God flips over the flat earth and that's how we get to night.

This makes the most sense.

I get too motion sick from the flipping to sleep.
- Its called insomnia bro!!!

It's definetly dark on the other side of our flat earth.

And to prove I'm right: dark side of the moon by pink Floyd. The moon is also flat. Someone is flipping all those discs (you prefer 'planets') over every 24 hours, just like flat pancakes. How can you ignore all those obvious signs.

Jeez. Those dumb round-earthers.

They call round earthers "globetards"

This is a proof for sun is orbiting around the earth (I'm just joking)

Heliocentrism didn't come about just from observing the sun. We also had to observe the planets and figure out why they would suddenly change direction in the sky. After centuries of increasingly complex models that decently described the planetary motion with geocentrism, some calculating and new models that put the sun at the center made a lot of the models much more consistent.
- Exactly. It's not that a geocentric model can't be mathematically described and used to predict, it's just that the math is much, much easier if you put the sun in the middle.
Funny, but then it would still be all dark or all light at once. Or do flat earthers also deny time zones?
- Flat earthers actually believe the sun is small and close (like the moon) and that it sort of rotates over the flat earth.
  Still hella dumb though because you should conceivably always be able to see the sun since it is a flat earth and the sun is above it.

if we can flip it over we can solve global warming

I mean, timezones are enough.

The lamp rotates along its post. Booom, solved.

Where does the sun hide at night? Did people really used to live in black and white?

at night god turns the sun off ..

My favorite bit about Flat Earthers is that most of the ones who consider the question of other planets / moons believe that they are all spheres. Because they can see them. But the Earth is somehow a special case.

Praise the lamp!

Is that the Pixar lamp?
- Depicted: Earth before, and Earth after, the Pixar lamp.

Wrong! When its night time god gets a spatula and flips it onto the other side (where atlantis, Lemuria, etc are).

Pretty sure Mormons proved that God actually just does a sick-ass in-pan flip. That’s why everyone dreams - from all the g-force. Which brings me to 5G…
/s

Just flip the record

My cousin is a genuine flat earther
She’s insufferable
The problem is that they're both. Lots of them are trolls. It was probably even started by a troll. But there's a lot of people out there who do, genuinely, buy into it. Which is the crazy part.

That's probably the weakest counter flat-earth argument I've seen out there.