Anon is a soyboy
Anon is a soyboy
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It is a badge i would wear with honor, because soy is awesome and the myth is bullshit.
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afaik, it's not really a myth. it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens and it's often recommended as a supplement for HRT. Probably not enough to have much of an effect on its own though
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it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens
you think because it has "estrogens" in the name it turns you into a girl. phyto- means plant. are you a plant?
recommended as a supplement for HRT.
by who? facebook?
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False, the phytoestrogens in beer are far more bioavailable, but also the animal estrogen in beef.
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/
Its basically been proven as bullshit, physiologically if you are healthy its not true. There MAY be edge cases where if you are lacking the vitamins/minerals/essential fats necessary for hormone regulation it MAY in SOME people cause SOME irregularity but edge cases are just that.
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Phytoestrogens and estrogens have some similarities in their chemical structure and ability to bind to estrogen receptors, but they have important differences in their effects on the human body:
- Estrogens are hormones produced naturally in the body, primarily in the ovaries in women. They are essential for sexual and reproductive development and function[5].
- Phytoestrogens are plant-derived compounds that have a similar chemical structure to estrogens and can bind to estrogen receptors, but they are not hormones and are not produced naturally in the human body[1][4].
- Phytoestrogens typically have much weaker estrogenic effects compared to human estrogens like estradiol[1][3]. The effects of phytoestrogens depend on factors like the specific type, dose, and individual differences in metabolism and estrogen levels[2].
- Consuming phytoestrogens from foods like soy, flaxseeds, fruits and vegetables is unlikely to have a significant impact on estrogen levels or health, as the amounts are very low compared to what the body naturally produces[4]. Concentrated phytoestrogen supplements may have more noticeable effects.
- In some cases, phytoestrogens may actually have anti-estrogenic effects by blocking estrogen receptors or reducing the body's own estrogen production[1][3]. This is thought to be due to their structural similarity to estrogens.
Some potential benefits of phytoestrogens that have been studied include:
- Reducing menopausal symptoms like hot flashes in some women[1][3]
- Improving cardiovascular health markers[2][4]
- Reducing risk of certain cancers like breast and prostate cancer[3][6]
However, the evidence is mixed, with many studies finding no significant effects[1][2]. Potential risks include:
- Blocking estrogen receptors and reducing the body's own estrogen production[1][3]
- Interfering with thyroid function in some cases[2]
- Potential effects on breast and prostate cancer risk, though the evidence is inconclusive[3][6]
Citations: [1] https://herkare.com/blog/estrogen-replacement-therapy-vs-phytoestrogens/ [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468963/ [3] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/648139 [4] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320630 [5] https://advancedhormonesolutions.com/do-you-know-the-difference-between-phytoestrogens-and-estrogen/ [6] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/ [7] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763421005558 [8] https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/phytoestrogen
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It's really strange that all of the replies to your comment are essentially agreeing with you but you got downvoted into the dirt for stating facts.
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Meanwhile cow milk is full of estrogen because it helps the cows to lactate.
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See, what his coworkers did was good bullying. Anon learned something and also wasn't fired for whatever skeevy pseudosexual thing he was implying about his coworker, probably over politics. Winning hearts and minds, people.
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The really funny thing about this is OP is egregiously wrong.
Soy doesn't contain estrogen, it contains phytoestrogen, which not only doesn't produce any estrogen-like side-effect, but actively prevents our bodies from taking and producing estrogenic hormones.
This is all very ironic, considering drinking
excessivecows milkleeches calcium out of our bones andexposes us to a smorgasbord of hormones not designed for humans.Soy is shit tier anyway, oat milk all the way.
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This leeching effect is not true. It's a myth spread by alt-health providers.
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At this point I just don't believe anything weird anyone has to say about food humanity has eaten for thousands of years unless they can back it up with real studies from real medical journals.
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Interesting. Got a source?
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I haven't totally believed this, but I also think its potentially useful to spread anyway. Sure, misinformation is bad, but so is climate change. Which one is worse?
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But Ichiban would never!
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Cow milk does not leech calcium from your bones.
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Yep, my bad, I've corrected it.
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also it should be leach
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If soy did do this, red states would be trying to regulate it so trans people couldn't buy it.
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!Don't tell them !<
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Out of all the things you can make out of soy, why milk? Tofu exists and it's grand-master based food. I'll smash several plates of mapo tofu without hesitation. Soy sauce, edamame, all ridiculously good shit.
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I disagreed with you until last night about tofu. But gods damn that orange tofu I had last night was just excellent. Good tofu is apparently something that exists and was just always out of reach
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guess how tofu is made
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tempeh is also insanely good, and remarkably nutritious
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Personally, I prefer soy milk to cow or oat milk because it has a better nutritional profile. It has less sugar and fat, and more protein, as well as having fiber. (Some oat milk brands do have fiber in them, but most of the ones I've found are very high in fat, sugar, and calories.)
Edit: And I like the not-overpowering vanilla flavored ones because I pretty much only use it for cereal or to accompany cookies.
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I've got a new dish to try with mapo tofu. Thank you for the indirect recommendation!
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Amazing, prior to today I didn't know people could have this much information on soy and still end up objectively incorrect about its position relative to oat milk.
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Go fuck yourself buddy. You and your non-oat-centrered world view need to check your privilege.
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Soy is shit tier anyway, oat milk all the way.
Nah brah, coconut milk is the choice of kings.
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If you let your boss bully you into explaining what a soyboy is, you are in fact a soyboy
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he brought it upon himself when he called a coworker soyboy first
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Omg do they really believe that?
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There are people who do.
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my family believes it completely. and hiding my actual estrogen is probably reinforcing their belief
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And anon's boss actually did exactly the thing you're supposed to do when this happens irl.
Make them explain it for the group, and then socially ridicule them.
Just bully that fucking nerd. Maybe a swirlie, depends on the workplace culture.
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As sure as people really believe greentexts happened and arenât just fun little stories.
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How the fuck does this get posted all the time without anyone ever picking up on the fact that this workplace dynamic is obviously made up and anon is literally a 4chan kid who just changed the actors in his story from ''teacher' and "classmate" to 'boss' and 'coworker' so he wouldn't get banned on an 18+ imageboard.
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FOUND THE SOYBOY
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Not only that, but mammal milk is literally hormone soup. Including estrogen. And soy doesn't actually contain the same type of estrogen. They contain isoflavones including plant estrogen (phytoestrogen). Similar but different chemical, with different bioavailability in mammals.
Also:
For example, many studies have found that Western-type dietary patterns characterized by high intakes of red meat, processed foods, sweets, dairy, and refined grains are consistently associated with higher estrogen levels ( 3 , 15 , 16 , 17 ).
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods-to-lower-estrogen
Basically the diet of the carnivores that mock the soyboys. How's that for projection?
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On that day, anon found out he really is a soyboy soyjack. Did he learn anything else? Nobody cares, only that soyboy won't manage to pull that on anyone at work.
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Internet soyboy meets world.
The men are not impressed by what he tells them of what he has learned.
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What kind of fuckin idiot thinks that soybeans have synthetic female hormones of a caliber that would feminize you or whatever.
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The same kind of idiot that conveniently ignores all the hormones in meat and dairy used to maximize profit
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I know right. If it did, you can be sure trans women would know about it.
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There's so many of them. And they're so goddamn dumb.
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Yeah. Soy sauce is awesome and I don't see anyone complaining about them.
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Same idiots who think vaccines contain microchips and DNA altering substances.
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Holy shit, textbook "I'm rubber and you're glue" defense in action.
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How appropriate. You light like a cow.
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The hilarious part is that the phytoestrogen in soy and other plants isn't compatible with our biology. High qualities studies hava failed to find an effect.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468963/
Meanwhile the actual mammalian estrogen that is in animal products does get absorbed and effect our hormones.
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It's also why the most deeply delusional MAGAs have to convince themselves that Tim Walz is gay - because a gun toting bird-hunting liberal does not compute for them.
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Hunting birds is gay now, actually.
Men hunt boars and shit like that. Moose. Bison. Bears.
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Finding a reason to completely disregard not just the ideas but even the humanity of huge swaths of other people is conservatism 101. Just give in to your most base tribal tendencies, and âknowâ that all those good-sounding ideas are in fact wrong and evil because theyâre coming from the wrong/lesser people.
When you canât argue against ideas, argue against the people saying them. See if ad-hominem attacks will work on people. (narrator: they did)
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yes I'm
boya nonbinary entity and I was raised on tofu so actualmente la verdad es que no soy boy-
Had to read it a couple of times but great joke lol.
Reminded me if this
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Sounds like something a soyboy would say.
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I moved to a rural area a few years back and thereâs a lot of farms here. Thus, many of the people Iâve met are farmers or have worked on farms. After a year or so of asking people what they raise/grow on their farms it finally happened and I met someone who said they grew soybeans. I asked him if he was a soyboy and he was really not amused.
Iâm pretty sure he saw it coming too, when he said soybeans I had to have a huge shit eating grin on my face. I was waiting for that day
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God you must have felt like a legend that day.
Except you aren't.
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I'd like to use this moment in spotlight to highlight one of the greatest things on Youtube, i.e. hbomberguy's SOY BOYS: A MEASURED RESPONSE
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I'll upvote anything by hbomberguy. I wish he'd make more videos
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Nah, I like that YouTubers like hbomber and Oki take time on their videos. It's like a gift when you see that upload pop up in your feed and you know you have something to look forward to later.
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I think I am just thankful for the giant feature length works of art that descend once a year crafted with the forethought and precision of one who refuses to compromise on the lengthy process of research.
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Forcesoy'd
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Do Not Create New Forced Genres
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Always thought soyboy is a way to condecendingly refer to a JavaScript developer. Because you know, beans.
Hard to stay on top of all the internet lingo.
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What do beans have to do with JavaScript? I am familiar with Spring beans but that is Java, not JS.
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They obviously use the netbeans IDE
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All java and JavaScript devs are soyboys confirmed
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We have way worse terms for Javascript devs. I'm not allowed to say them though.
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"feminism is bullying me"
lol what a self-own. Incels and antifeminists are stupid af. Give the patriarchy enough rope to hang itself
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"The patriarchy" isn't these losers though, they seethe because they're part of no in group but feel like they deserve to be.
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Which is still an aspect of the patriarchy to be fair, even if only as a symptom.
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Reminds me of the youtuber Jake Tran. Ever since he made that in video about soy milk turning people into soyboys I unsubbed. I feel like he pumped out much better content maybe in his earlier days, but lately, I think it's conservative bs.
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Its amazing how common that is.
Its almost like they know their views are terrible and hide them until they have built up enough of an audience to get away with voicing said views...
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Sounds about right
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I never know what to make of these posts like this because it seems like Anon is okay with laughing at themselves
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Haha soy is beans, therefore it's mega good for you. Beans are life
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You show up the next opportunity and give everyone a soymilk while pressuring them awkwardly to drink it in front of you, and threaten to make it a regular thing in a passive aggressive way; all while acting totally cool about it, as if you like it.
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Soy milk sucks, it's probably the worst milk...
Banana milk is the best, followed by: macadamia, coconut, cashew, oat, rice, almond, flax, hemp, and then soy in last place.
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Wtf are you saying? Soy milk is hard to beat nutritionally speaking, and it's not nearly as environmentally problematic as something like almond milk.
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What are you basing any of this on? Sounds like simple opinion and no health facts.
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"X sucks" is typically an opinion, yes. I assume this one's about taste
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Itâs completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice and then think that soy is affecting their hormones.
Not people, conservatives
Not conservatives, regressives.
So conservatives are not people, or I misinterpreted your comment?
It's completely wild that... Husbandry exists? That we eat other animals? That we rot liquid food to drink it? That we use bacteria to curdle milk?
Hot bean juice!
I'm on your level. People get really weird about milk despite the fact that the majority of people consume animal flesh on a daily basis. Milk is way low on the weird food scale.
Your comparison is stupid.
@idiomaddict talks about cow milk and soy milk, yet you go on a rant about how "cOw MiLk iS nOrMaL?!!".
Yeah.
It's not that wild lol
By drinking human hormone juice and getting their hormones messed with. Itâs good and helpful for babies.
The problem is that they give the cows growth hormone and high amounts of estrogen to encourage lactation and it's in the milk. I'm lactose intolerant like half of adults anyway so I do almond milk and olive oil butter personally.