'You're blowing it': Trump's fans beg him to change course as polls show GOP slipping
'You're blowing it': Trump's fans beg him to change course as polls show GOP slipping
I like how they are finally beginning to realize their "super stable 11D chess playing genius" is actually one of the most dumbfuck politicians we've ever had. Something we all saw from day one. George Bush Jr. looks like a prodigy next to this guy.
It's like I never wanted to forgive the GOP for George then they went and pulled a trump. It all makes sense now. W was the creme of the crop when it comes to the GOP. Literally the best thing they had going for them was that shit head.
I like how they are finally beginning to realize their "super stable 11D chess playing genius" is actually one of the most dumbfuck politicians we've ever had.
There were so many moments where I thought that’s what was happening and it didn’t.
He needs to lose and go to jail, and even then he will probably have thousands of followers left.
delicious delusional con tears...
Were fucking Republicans. We freed the slaves. We forced through reconstruction. We were responsible for civil rights. We literally have the historical record to make these arguments to the face of these race obsessed garbage people.
LOL. I so laughed at this line. Some people are unbelievably clueless.
I haven't laughed that hard at conservatives in a long time, good times.
Thanks to this I went browsing through that sub. These people are openly blatantly calling for torture of detainees in Guantanamo.
I haven't visited that sub in years, mostly because it made me feel dumber.
But those comments are in weird contrast to what I used to see. I wonder if the veil is finally falling...that'd be wild.
that was very pleasurable to read; thanks for sharing.
You've got to be fucking kidding me, they're making ads look like comments now???
Well that was certainly eye opening, and not in a good way. Begs the question of how the party has ever been able to unite such a diverse group of delusional and hateful people with out the whole group completely thunder-doming themselves.
They have a uniting principle:
"We deserve to rule, being the heirs of privilege. The world is not fair, and we will keep it that way so that we can be on top."
Reactionaries see the democratization of rights as an assault on them; to them, rights are zero-sum. If someone else (especially a group they've coded as "evil") gets a right recognized, they see it as a personal affront.
One can see this streak throughout history for the reactionary right: freeing the slaves, ending Jim Crow, women's suffrage, same-sex marriage, etc.
Thanks for putting me on to this thread, what a great sight
It's a fun place to visit when you want to see bots, mouthbreathers, and room temperature IQ's.
Can you tell us more detail so I don't have to go there?
Well I read it. I like how the one guy says "they baited him with dei, now everyone is talking about it". Dude the right won't shut up about dei, so naturally they asked about it. But sure, it's bait. And only now everyone is talking about it. The delusion is unreal.
What's r/conservative?
Edit:
Ah well, hand people an opportunity, and they'll kick you for it.
A conservative minded community on Reddit
It's a place where they claim to be conservative while taking credit for all the good policies conservatives have fought against tooth and nail for the last 150 years.
Sometimes people swing strikes in tee-ball too. I guess you just can't expect everyone to take the easy lobs and run with them.
Reddit conservative sub
No, no, you're doing great! Keep making a big deal about her ethnicity, you've almost got all the black voters convinced to stay home!
This is beautiful, lol. Thank you.
Wormtongue using his lies for good for a change.
This is why he is so damn dumb, he's already got the racist vote! So lay off that shit and work on the moderates!
I'm glad Trump thinks he knows everything though so he more than likely wont listen to sound advice.
And the funny thing is, from his point of view (not mine, okay?), shouldn't Kamala claiming she's black a plus for his campaign?
"Another black president?! Hell no!"
I'm not sure why he does what he does. I guess he likes to stir shit up for the sake of stirring shit up.
Yeah, he's really dumb about these kinds of things.
When he went back on revealing Epstein info because "some people will have their names exposed who didn't do anything wrong", he's being so transparent and so stupid. If he says he's going to release info, he doesn't actually have to release info. More than anyone else in the world, Trump should understand that, but he doesn't.
They are begging him to focus on policy.
Oh you sweet summer children, Trump never had any policy. If he tries to focus on it it will just further show he's all bluster no substance.
Yes, should focus more on P2025 policy and how it will be implemented. That will win over a lot of people.
Don't forget his infrastructure and healthcare policies. He'll unveil them any day now. I predict two weeks.
I thought you were smarter than that but you’re acting like a dumbass.
The rest of us caught on 8 years ago.
They saw what they wanted to see.
8 years ago, anyone Gen X or older should have known this for decades...
In the '80s Trump always made Spy magazine's "Top 10 Worst People, Places or Things" list. His only "mitigating factor" at the time was that he wasn't in politics.
Fun fact: back then Trump offered to pay for the funeral of a child killed by a bear ... and then reneged.
I mean, some of us were fortunate enough to not know who he was at all.
That said, I'm a millennial, so what do I know.
Hey now, most of we millennials at least remember the birther shit
"Trump's fans beg him to change course."
Sure, Jan. You wouldn't BE his fans if he wasn't exactly the thing he is every single day.
Anyway, is this really the thing that's a step too far? Is this the worst thing he's ever done on camera? It isn't.
It just feels worse this time because you can feel that Kamala Harris is going to beat him.
Anyway, is this really the thing that’s a step too far? Is this the worst thing he’s ever done on camera? It isn’t.
Howard Dean's political career ended because of a random scream of enthusiasm. Jeb Bush said "Please Clap."
Remember, we're talking about what the "final straw" is that broke the camel's back. The final straw may not necessarily be the heaviest one. Just the last one.
If the game is tied in the 4th quarter and your QB got picked off for the 3rd time in a row, don't be surprised when even the rest of the team starts telling the coach it may be time to bench him. It's exactly what just happened to Biden.
Remember, we’re talking about what the “final straw” is that broke the camel’s back.
Nah, though. We're not.
Howard Dean was squeaky clean when "the scream" happened. He was everyone's favorite, and it was too early to say for sure at that moment but we felt like he could win the whole shebang. Then he screamed and it came crashing down. It wasn't a "final straw". It was the only straw. A straw made of Republican propaganda and enemy action, swallowed by democratic liberals.
As for Jeb Bush, he was underwhelming from the start. Nobody wanted him to be president; probably not even him. "Please clap" was his admission that his campaign wasn't working at all. Again, not a final straw. In this case there wasn't even a camel in the room, just Jeb, giving up.
None of these models applies cleanly to Trump. It's not a "final straw" because there's a mountain of straw; bales of straw as far as the eye can see. It's not Howard Dean for the same reason. It's not Jeb Bush either, because Trump may be faltering but he is literally incapable of throwing in the towel. He doesn't even contain that, as an option.
So I don't know why this one is sticking, but I think we're closer to Jeb Bush territory than Howard Dean. I think everyone but Trump is getting a glimpse of the fact that this is going to be a bloodbath for him.
Dean's yell was not a "last straw." If I recall, he was doing pretty well at the time actually.
I hate the sports analogy. I understand it because I like sports. It's apt because your statement resonates. What I hate is that it should be about the people and what needs to happen for a society. It's not a form of entertainment. It's life and death for most.
Exactly. If he was polling well they'd be excited af to have him say all the worst things in the world about her.
Remember "Lock her up"? These people are assholes. That's why they love him.
The irony of an actual criminal leading his rubes in chants of "lock her up" is hilarious.
His supporters can't comprehend that their face is being eaten, but they just noticed something is off.
The weird thing is sticking. It's breaking through the self awareness armor. It's digging heads out of the sand.
Nah. He should keep doubling down. I'm sure that won't backfire. /s
I think that's all his mind is capable of.
Well he certainly can't calculate or comprehend tripling!
I mean, he’s a weird fucking loser
You need to focus on policy.
When has he ever done that? His magnum opus was crooked Hillary and lock her up.
Do they not know that he is mostly about slogans and talking shit?
He's always focused on policy. This is him focused on policy. His policy is "whatever Trump decides is best for Trump at any given moment," and he's so dedicated to it that he got the GOP to write it into their platform.
Why do websites think that "turning off my ad-blocker" or "paying for a subscription" are my only two options?
It's the internet. The option to x out of there and go read almost the exact same article elsewhere is always a third option.
Demands only work when you have content no one else does.
I especially like how they've always loaded the full page in the background behind their popup with their little ultimatum. So they've already paid the costs in bandwidth and resources to serve up the page anyway, only for me to just close the tab on them.
On Firefox Mobile, you can install Ublock Origin (at least on Android). You can block JavaScript on a per site basis. Washington Post? NY Times? Some random Podunk page I will never read again?
Fuck you!
Also, notice that all right wing/fascist publications don't paywall articles. That is part of the problem.
There's also option Z, step up your paywall evasion. Small sites especially are vulnerable to that.
archive.ph is a very useful website
To be fair, if you’re not paying or seeing ads, they don’t want you there. You’re increasing their hosting costs and they’re getting nothing in return. They’re better off if you go elsewhere.
Weirdest part is people being surprised...
They still don't get how much Joe was holding the party back. Anyone else would have seen these same gains
Sadly being good at governing doesn't mean being good at running in an election.
I was hoping that people could see trump presidency vs Biden presidency and see the difference, but it looks like that's not enough.
Having said that, I hope Kamala will be as good or even better than Biden in governing.
I was hoping that people could see trump presidency vs Biden presidency and see the difference, but it looks like that's not enough.
The masses unfortunately don't vote off platform, they vote off feelings.
It's almost impossible for her to be worse than Biden, so you're good.
I was hoping that people could see trump presidency vs Biden presidency and see the difference, but it looks like that’s not enough.
Correct, there wasn't enough of a difference between Biden and trump
True. Harris isn't even a particularly strong candidate. People just want anything except the two old codgers.
Weirdest part is people being surprised…
They still don’t get how much Joe was holding the party back. Anyone else would have seen these same gains
go back 3 weeks ago to see all the people outside lemmy.world trying to make everyone aware that biden was the wrong horse for this race and marvel at how it pissed everyone on lemmy.world off for saying so.
Imagine all these people thinking Trump will read their tweets and take their advice
I mean, the dude is nearly as addicted to social media as Musk so it's entirely possible he'll read their tweets. But take their advice? Yeah, no, the guy is a narcissist, he doesn't need advice from anyone.
so it’s entirely possible he’ll read their tweets.
I don't think Trump reads.
Focusing in policy would tank him.
His whole appeal is that he has no coherent ideology, so you can project whatever views you have onto him.
He can talk about policy and retain his voters. He just has to contradict himself. They hear the sentences they want to hear.
Trump will interpret this as "time to double down!"
Uuh. Every conservative I know irl can't stop boasting about how hard Trump is kicking Biden and Harris's ass
They're used to lying to people they disagree with about how they actually feel.
"I'm not racist, DEI leads to unqualified hires!"
"I'm not sexist, men are genetically superior!"
"Trump is leading in the polls!"
They know he's not, but they lie because all they have is the appearance of strength, without that they have nothing.
It depends on where that conservative lives. If they're in a blue state, maybe. But if they're in a red state they're convinced this is a coup because they don't know anyone who's voting for Harris. How the hell can she be ahead in the polls if nobody I know in Podunk, Tennessee is voting for her. To them, it's all fake news. It's a conspiracy. All the same idiotic head-in-sand crap as last time.
Polls say different
His true colors are showing.
^ Color
You forgot that Trump doesn't believe in mixed heritage people - everyone just gets one color.
In his case, cheeto orange.
You mean prison jumpsuit orange? :>
They have been shining bright the entire time. Some people are finally opening their eyes.
"Change" isn't something Republicans are known for.
Republicans always want to "change things back" to an era they romanticize. It doesn't matter if their "change" wasn't an option before, such as a president having absolute immunity. In other words, they love making changes but somehow get away with saying they are reverting things to a status that never was.
They dig their feet in better than any other political party, I'll give them that.
How's that hopey, changey thing working out for ya?
-Palin (the maverickiest con of all mavericks ever to have mavericked)
With that sound logic they've got going on, that you can't be both Black AND Indian at the same time? How is that not a winning argument? Whoever heard of being biracial? Obviously, you can only be one race at a time, and obviously some races are better than others. I just don't understand what's so hard to get. /s
No, no. Let him cook. Draw out the traitors and fascists further so they can't ever walk it back.
They don't care about walking anything back. They don't have consequences because their voter base always backs them. They will say whatever they think will work in the moment and then move on to the next double think. Literally taking 1984 for a manual.
ahahahahahahahahahahhaa
Where have they been? Trump has never focused on actual policy. Now they want him to do something that he's never before been able to do? Weird.
Ha good luck with that. The Dook of Orange has all the flexibility of a glass block, and is about as transparent.
If this slide can continue to the election, that's cool. I'm not so sure this Harris surge will last though.
The only thing that really matters is PA. If GOP wins PA, they win election. Right now it's neck and neck with Trump a little ahead.
Kamala was always going to be up in national polls and she will always win national vote.
I downvote you for sport because you suck.
Don't worry, Harris, seeing her numbers above 50%, will pick Shapiro and halt all positive momentum she had so that it still will be a coin toss.
Hey Trump, it is a sign of weakness if you change course now.
It would be weird if he changed course this late in the game.