Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news
Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president's rally – latest news
Looks like someone took some shots at prez candidate Donald Trump at a rally in PA. From the videos I've seen, it looks like he did get grazed.
Half the comments here are proving that people on the right aren’t the only ones who can indulge in stupid conspiracy theories.
It’s depressing as fuck.
Q-Anon level thinking that somehow Trump is a mastermind of this. The dude who can't hide stolen files properly, can't lie on his taxes properly, and loses money on a casino, somehow has the ability to rig a false flag assassination attempt.
Are NeoLibs that so far into the Kool-Aid that Dipshit Trump is also a grandmaster 5D chess player of this, while not being able to string words together? It's not like he's even been a good actor.
Trump isn't even the mastermind of his own bowel movements. If this was staged it was all planned by his Russian handlers.
It's fun to indulge in, and it doesn't change the fact that shit is about to hit the fan, regardless of whether the shooter was someone with a legitimate desire or a paid gunman. Trump was just given and used a golden ticket to both rally republicans to vote for him, and to incite his diehard followers into another insurrection.
Yeah there are some real idiots in this thread. Very depressing
A "false flag assassination attempt" is not as hard to rig if you know it won't be properly investigated.
Neoliberals are pro-trump, plan 2025 calls for going after people with student loans
It doesn't take a mastermind. Dictators faking assassination attempts to garner support isn't new.
What I find sad is that either option is equally plausible. That's how low we have sunk.
On this topic as a whole, it's also proving people on the left are in favor of gun violence...
I was thinking the same thing
How do you know their political leanings?
What's worse is that the MAGA crowd has Trump and some other figures intentionally playing conspiracies up and adding weight to them. The guys on the left don't even have the excuse of Biden and company bullshitting.
Braindead comment.
But why would you even think that people on the left are different from people on the right? This is why I'm not into politics myself. Because it all builds on some fake idea that one side is right about everything, even good people, while the other is wrong about everything, and probably are bad people as well.
In reality, both sides are very similar and have much more incommon with eachother than they have with the politicians they are trying to support.
My understanding is that on average there are differences in psychology between conservative and progressive people. For example, conservative people tend to be okay with unfairness, since from their point of view society is a hierarchy and of course the people at the top are better off.
Anyway, given that conservative and progressive people have a different vision of an ideal society and also different ideas about how to get there, it is reasonable to expect them at act differently. We know that most politically motivated violence is from the right.
Just quid pro quo.
Mr Trump could be seen ducking for cover behind the lectern.
I like attempted assassination victims that don't duck for cover.
It'll take more than that to stop a Bull Moose!
I say we elect that one guy behind him who barely reacts at all
Honestly, they're all so dead inside up there that I'm amazed any of them even flinched.
I wonder how much we're going to hear about the poor person who got shot in the head right behind him, or if they're just incidental margin notes in history, overshadowed by the big WWE media theater that is Trump. Reports are saying at least two crowd members have died.
edit: the family of the victim has given an update that Trump hasn't even attempted to reach out to them. And also, the guy was an avid nutcase, nazi and racist. The world won't be worse-off, we can sleep easy.
Oh Trump will absolutely bring them up at every single rally to froth up the crowd. Because he may be the martyr they care about the most, but the martyrs who actually died will be great ammunition (I can't think of a more appropriate word, sorry) to rile up the crowd.
They chose to go to a rally to support a man who wants to be a "dictator on day one" they made their choice.
I just hope they were crucial to Project 2025
Well things are about to get a whole lot worse. That raised fist is going to be printed on all the right-wing crazy stuff and they will use this to justify violence against anyone opposing Trump.
With the supreme court ruling regarding official acts we have already reached the point where democracy is on its last breaths.
This is the time for escalation that people can't ignore in favor of bickering over if the non fascist is old.
if only it was that easy
I suppose we need even more guns.
If he was wearing armor made of guns he wouldn’t be bleeding.
Practical solution for a practical problem
I would not put this beyond him.
I think it would be. Not morally, just i don't think he's competent enough.
That's called a false flag attack. I could believe it, but I could also believe it was a sincere attack.
Being serious about it for a moment, it's extremely unlikely that it's a false flag attack. It's fun to joke about the idea, but the reality is that it doesn't appear to be staged, and he's far too much of a coward to agree to have somebody shoot at him.
Besides that, there's plenty of politically-unaffiliated groups or individuals who would probably want him gone just for how his last term contributed to the abortion bans, reunification of church and state (in some states), government corruption, etc.
Some? They anyone with a functional brain that has been paying attention. Nothing the dude has ever done has been honest.
From the article:
Trump stood up and held his fist in the air with what appeared to be blood dripping down his face.
Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering.
An excellent PR stunt and call to action for his violent insurrectionist supporters, if you ask me.
Right after meeting with Orban who just met with Putin? I don't know if I really think that, but I would say it's possible.
So? This happens in Schools all the time?
You raise a good point. I am far, far less heartbroken by this than Sandy Hook and Uvalde. Republicans made this all possible.
Well this is gonna raise his chances of winning by a large amount
People keep repeating this, but without convincing justification.
All I see is, people who were already energized to solidly vote trump, are now really really solidly already going to really vote for him now. I just don't see how this will get someone to vote trump, who was either going to vote dem or not vote.
People just say things.
Christ. Now I'm envisioning his future campaign speeches. "They try to shoot me down, I am an immortal."
immoral
we’ll never hear the end of it.
We will hear it for another 10 years when he finally has his hamburger heart attack.
Campaign? Doesn't really need to even campaign anymore after this. Maybe he will mention it at a state of the confedarcy talk or something. These are such shitty times.
Sweet, shoot again
Immortan.
Immotan-gelo.
This fucking shooter could set behind democracy in the US for dozens of years. Land the shots and you martyr him, miss and you galvanize his support. Seriously the conservatives were starting to shift away from the far right after Epstein documents and Project 2025. Now deep state wackos will NEVER go away and resort to crazier armed shit. Seeing people comment that the shooter 'was so close' is insane and makes them no better than political extremists.
There's also a ton of very religious rhetoric being used about Trump now. He's literally becoming the Messiah and a true religious hero fighting whatever evil is out there. God is saving him from bullets and what not. There's going to be some interesting sermons in evangelical churches around the country these next few weeks. Yikes.
if bolsonaro is any indication, this is just turning him into a martyr.
really terrible job by whoever tried it.
All the martyrdom, none of the benefits of him actually dying.
Biden testing his Presidential Immunity.
Just a little off the top
Gotta start somewhere.
Official Act™
Just a warning shot
Ex-prez, please.
Looks like one of the bullets actually got him in the ear, as he grabs is ear right away. I thought it was from him getting tackled down by the secret service.
So the shooter was almost a good shot. So close.
According to TMZ a secret service agent said the bullet hit his teleprompter and glass shrapnel hit his ear.
https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/13/donald-trump-appear-shot-pennsylvania-rally-president-election/
Take it like Teddy you wimp.
One of the videos you can hear "shooter down" before he gets up. Elderly, near death experience, and monumental arrogance would help explain his reaction pretty well!
Shooting him isn't the way - but I can see why someone was scared enough to think it was. Just remember kids, voting for Biden isn't just voting against trumpler - it's saying you would literally prefer someone who is probably senile overhim. It's a solid insult, and you should go out there on polling day to make sure he hears it.
This is what wins him the election.
This is what wins him the
electioninsurrection.
FTFY. He called on his rabid supporters to "fight." I think we all know what that means.
Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering.
Yep. Many innocent people will die because of this.
I'm more worried about the nutzos trying to "defend trump".
Oh and First Past the Post voting artificially limiting our options putting us into this situation.
As much as I hate to admit this, it wasn't a fake shooting. The 'acting' was way too good to be faked. The mid-word 'stung in the ear' confusion slowly followed by the realization of what happened and the clumsy collapse to the ground are just too believable to think it wasn't real. That said, whether it was a false flag or not is another story.
That image was after I heard security yell "shooter's down"
Edit: They also yelled "clear we're clear".
An antended at the rally and the shooter were killed per the AP
Yup.
You're delusional if you think a killed Trump would have been good. He'd get replaced by a more evil and intelligent republican which would then definitely win the election.
From the article:
Trump stood up and held his fist in the air with what appeared to be blood dripping down his face.
Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering.
Undoubtedly, this will incite his violent insurrectionist fan base into a repeat of Jan 6.
Just looks like tourists enjoying a day out to me.
Your comment made me laugh aloud, and then be sad. Bravo.
Macaroni and cheese box
C-span footage: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5123735/shots-fired-trump-rally
You know it was Rudy
Couldn’t be, he’s too busy selling handies behind the Wendy’s dumpster.
The fact that mods are actually doing their jobs in this thread restores some of my faith in Lemmy.
Would the world be a better place without Trump? Probably. Is this the way? No.
Thoughts and prayers.
I see blood but I don't see a wound. Are they really going to try and pass that the perfect hole there is a bullet hole? Wouldn't a gun shot wound there take a bigger portion of the ear?
Paramedic here. All parts of the head are very vascular, and so any head injury at all bleeds fantastically. If the top of his ear got clipped, that would be enough to produce that much blood.
Depends on the hit. There's not much blood so it might just be a graze.
Probably bounced off his thick skull.
Depends on the round. A lot of factors come into play on gunshot wounds, including velocity, mass, resistance, angle. There is even some possibility that the round just barely missed, but the displacement of air is actually what broke skin.
There is even some possibility that the round just barely missed, but the displacement of air is actually what broke skin.
That is an urban legend. I've been missed by some pretty large caliber rounds in war and I've seen some pretty large caliber rounds barely miss people. No damage is done. You have to make contact with the round (or vice versa) for it to do damage.
Orange Man Gogh
Nice
Wow you are so calm and level-headed. I would be tempted for twice at least for a good measure. What if they missed it?
This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These "questions" are asinine and not that hard to explain.
There's pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let's just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I'm sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.
This shit is so fucking stupid and I'm so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.
Get this shit outta here. This doesn't deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We're going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.
I'm not even saying you're wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.
pushed against secret service to face cameras and have his head exposed for a long period of time?
Ok, that's in the range of "you don't have anything to hide if you're innocent", shut up.
It's not clear at all that that's what happened. It is completely plausible that someone would shoot a firearm at a candidate in a hotly contested presidential election. Let wait for evidence to roll in yeah?
I wouldn't be surprised either way, honestly. It would be the right timing for a false flag though for sure.
But then on the other hand this is the prescribed treatment for tyrants, per our fore-bearers.
You’re doing what they do.
Yes. You are correct. On reflection I should have put quotes around it as it was intented to convey that but not actually imply that it was the case. It is good you called it out.
How can you wish a death on a human being? How much of a POS can you actually be?!
Not who you're replying to but its very easy to wish death (or the sudden thanos-ing) of objectively evil people.
Don't believe Trump is objectively evil? Here's what the man stands for and its not even a comprehensive list.
Trump stole money from kids with cancer [1] [2] [3]. Trump wanted to kill people despite evidence they were innocent [4] [5] [6]. Trump raped his wife and E Jean Carroll [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]. Trump lied about not knowing E Jean Carroll yet confused her with his wife [9]. Trump sexually assaults women [13] [14] [15]. Trump walked in on half-naked underage children [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22]. Trump was good friends with known rapist and child trafficker Jeffrey Epstein [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] . Trump is a 34 time convicted felon [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35]. Trump sowed distrust by refusing to release his taxes like every other recent president has done since the 70's [36]. Trump betrayed the country when he subverted the 2020 election by falsely claiming victory [37], attempting to delay the certification process [38] and demanding Georgia officials to "find" votes for him [39]. Trump incited an insurrection in an attempt to stop the electoral vote count leaving five people dead [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45]. Trump appointed his unqualified family to top administration roles [46] [47]. Trump withheld aid to Ukraine unless they found dirt on Joe Biden and his son [48]. Trump was impeached for abusing his presidential power by using the office for personal political gain (pressuring Ukraine to dig dirt on the Biden's) to the detriment of national security [48]. Trump sided with racists by calling them "very fine people" [49]. Trump imposed a "Muslim travel ban" [50] [51] [52]. Trump lied about his inauguration crowd size [53] [54] [55]. Trump doubled fees at his resort hotel after becoming president to profit from the presidency [56]. Trump has no respect for veterans and disrespected prisoner of war John McCain [57] [58] [59]. Trump appointed Ben Carson, a neurosurgeon, to secretary of housing and development [60]. Trump spread misinformation by suggesting vaccines cause autism [61] [62]. Trump lied by falsely accusing Obama of spying on the Trump campaign [63]. Trump cut pandemic early warning program which likely made the pandemic worse when it broke out 3 months later [64] [65]. Trump cut corporate taxes to lowest rate since 1939, giving the mega rich a break while continuing to take from the poor - like a reverse robin hood! [66] [67]. Trump had protestors sprayed with tear gas so he could attend a photo op and take a picture with an upside down bible. [68].
[5] https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/jul/25/did-donald-trump-ever-apologize-central/
[6] https://apnews.com/article/trump-guilty-verdict-central-park-five-b59498a04d148a65ef33df36a61aa668
[7] https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-65502076
[8] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
[9] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65486437
[10] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/26/nyregion/carroll-trump-trial-testimony.html
[14] https://www.vox.com/2016/10/7/13206364/vox-sentences-trump-sexual-assault
[15] https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-says-he-will-probably-attend-civil-rape-trial-2023-05-04/
[16] https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-walks-in-miss-teen-usa-contestants-changing/
[17] https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/03/26/trump-pageant-dressing-rooms/
[22] https://nypost.com/2016/10/12/former-teen-beauty-queens-say-trump-barged-into-their-dressing-room/
[24] https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a32836718/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-friendship/
[26] https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/jeffrey-epstein-and-donald-trump-epic-bromance
[27] https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/epstein-documents-trump.html
[28] https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-friendship-timeline-history-2019-7?op=1
[29] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/30/nyregion/trump-convicted-hush-money-trial.html
[30] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-is-convicted-felon-now-what-2024-05-30/
[31] https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/30/trump-guilty-verdict-whats-next-00160814
[32] https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-05-30/trump-trial-verdict-voter-reaction
[33] https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/05/30/donald-trump-is-a-convicted-felon
[35] https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/31/politics/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.html
[36] https://time.com/6243071/trump-tax-returns-history-house/
[37] https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/politics/donald-trump-election-2020/index.html
[38] https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/gop-michigan-results-trump/index.html
[40] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55640437
[41] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/11/full-transcript-donald-trump-january-6-incendiary-speech
[42] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56004916
[43] https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-committee-final-report-trump-bcfea6162fe9cfa0d120e86d069af0e4
[44] https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/08/01/us/trump-indictment-jan-6
[47] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Office_appointments_by_Donald_Trump?useskin=vector
[48] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39945744
[50] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769?useskin=vector
[51] https://immigrationhistory.org/item/muslim-travel-ban/
[52] https://www.npr.org/2022/03/04/1084565893/five-years-after-trumps-muslim-ban
[54] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/06/donald-trump-inauguration-crowd-size-photos-edited
[56] https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/mar-a-lago-membership-fee-doubles-to-200000.html
[58] https://time.com/3963612/donald-trump-john-mccain-military-service/
[59] https://apnews.com/article/id-cde31d2fa3a244d29de77b31a59b799a
[60] https://archive.curbed.com/2020/8/17/21372168/ben-carson-hud-housing-trump
[63] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39167110
[65] https://www.livescience.com/first-case-coronavirus-found.html
[66] https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/corporate-top-tax-rate-and-bracket
[67] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-43790895
[68] https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/01/politics/cnntv-bishop-trump-photo-op/index.html
A pissed off POS, fuck Donald Trump.
Where was Nikki Haley? She was in charge of security!
How is it possible that no one behind him is hit?
At least one rally attendee was killed:
Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.
One interview with person at the rally, said there were 3 med-evac's
Reports are coming in that at least one person was.
Almost
Come on man, you're making me laugh at someone getting shot. XD
The crowing will begin soon
It's a real shame...
Orange Man Gogh
This is nothing, check out what putin did!
https://feddit.org/post/698871
I'm sorry, I mean Biden!
Fake news
Unless it was a blood capsule or something the guy is too much of a pussy to pull something like this off.
https://x.com/merylkornfield/status/1812263916497506711?s=46
According to a Washington Post reporter that talked with the district attorney, an audience member and the shooter are dead. Not a stunt.
Don't stoop to that level. Assume it was real. Base your conclusions on evidence. Not conspiracies.
My worry is that some lunatic right winger is trying to push us to civil war.
Why?
I mean it might have been, but with the modern insanity around politics and guns and violence, and the general unhinged nature of the population generally, it's equally or more likely to be some deranged person with a gun. WHY for the love of god add to the chaos by speculating without any evidence yet? Does it help?
One of the attendees in the bleachers was hit:
https://imgur.com/a/V0SyhKE
News is also saying that 2 are dead: https://news.sky.com/story/shots-fired-at-donald-trump-rally-as-former-president-rushed-off-stage-13177651
This doesn't sound like it was staged.
Absolutely. False flag for sure.
Edit: /s. Half of you are way too serious.
The bullet is totally a crisis actor, you can also see it in that one Reagan clip. /s
reap what you sow