Nikki Haley writes ‘finish them’ on IDF artillery shells during Israel visit
Nikki Haley writes ‘finish them’ on IDF artillery shells during Israel visit
Why would you think it's a good political move to sign a bomb in such a controversial conflict. It boggles my mind who suggested that as a good idea.
The conflict is only controversial to one party.
Unlike Hollywood movies, things aren't always black and white. It is quite possible that both sides are. Neither the Hamas nor Nethanyahu government are the good guys. Both sides try to exterminate the other side. Both sides also don't mind killing innocent people in their way.
It is a fucked up situation, and with recent developments it looks like it is turning into Israel's Afghanistan. Biden was right warning Nethanyahu to not make the same mistake at US did after 9/11.
To some of these people there’s no such thing as bad media coverage.
Yeah, even if you support Israel, this is really in bad taste.
Lemmy is a bubble. Most people don't give half a shit about a small town worth of people in some their world failed state run by terrorists.
Behold, the moderate Republican.
The Moderate Republican, folks.
Why WHY would Joe Biden sign off on providing Nikki Haley with PERMANENT MARKERS!
An incredible oversight. How can he recover from this?
Ugh... We've discovered it was from her personal stash. I think we should shutdown Wallmart for this.
The only recourse is something that is obviously such a terrible idea that I shouldn't even have to explain the details to you, you should know what to do based on how egregiously, obnoxiously bad the concept of a solution is.
Thanks, Obama.
Hey Nikki, why don't you use your birth name - Nimarata Nikki Randhawa?🤔
That isn't, in my opinion, something to criticize her for.
If we are going to respect people's names and pronouns, that needs to apply to Republicans too, even if you suspect they changed their name for political reasons.
Caitlyn Jenner is an absolute piece of shit who killed someone, but I'm not going to call her Bruce because of it.
Should we not hold republicans to their own standards? Taking the high road doesn't always work.
Sauce for the goose, my friend. Going high while our opponents go low is why this nation is in the state it is right now. If they chose to wrestle in the muck rather than abide by civilized rules, then I'm more than content to get dirty and fight them there if that serves me best. I see no reason to cede them any advantage out of an outmoded sense of fair play.
I agree that we shouldn't misgender people or intentionally call them by the wrong name, but I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out the hypocrisy of their political stance.
Republicans are actively persecuting people are transgender and foreigners (or people who sound like foreigners), so to point out how they are being hypocritical is not all that out of line imo.
Probably because it sounds like Nimrod, which Bugs Bunny successfully turned into a pejorative
Or, y’know, because it’s the GOP and she wants to sound whiter
Totally random, but reading your comment reminded me that there is an Israeli competition climber named Nimrod.
These are the people that are going to be ruling America soon.
These are the people who have been ruling America for a long time.
That'll happen when you give Democrats the presidency and a majority in Congress and all they do with it is issue blank checks for war instead of addressing the needs of the poor and working class.
It's a replay of 2016, when Hillary (and Obama before her) ignored the Rust Belt and it lost her the presidency.
and a majority in Congress
Democrats do not have a super majority, which is a problem thanks to the fillabuster. So the only branch of government the democrats have is the executive, which is not enough to fix things.
Oh? and what are republicans doing for the poor and working class?
Failed Republican presidential nominees writing on artillery shells is the result of Democrats in the White House and Congress? Interesting.
FYI: Most of those braindead “am I not allowed to criticize Biden???” comments and posts on social media are a concerted effort by right-wingers from /pol and other such sewers, trying to get people to not vote against Trump. Don’t fall for it. These aren’t “lefties” or “tankies”. Just downvote, report, and ignore.
Lemmy is fucking FULL of them. Every other post is some Israel / Genocide Joe bullshit.
If you didn't know any better you'd think Joe is literally flying a bomber over Gaza right now.
It's getting tiresome even down voting this crap.
Why are they wasting effort on like 200 leftist techies? They could get a lot more bang for their buck on Facebook.
They are on all social media platforms.
They have plenty of automated bots there too
Democrats not doing all the faschie shit they claim to be saving us from challenge level impossible.
Don't like Joe? You're a bot. Have a laundry list of gripes about Joe? Nope you're a single issue voter whining about a single racial cleansing like a baby.
Blue MAGA out here working overtime blaming the left for any and every Democratic loss, claim to hate Republicans but will hand an election to them every 4 years before they concede even an inch to the left instead of sprinting right to "court voters" that were NEVER going to vote with them.
That kind of propaganda is very common now so it makes sense that people have their guards up.
Awww poor guy
How can they say they love Israel but also say Jews run everything and be generally negative towards Jews here?
"Doublethink is a process of indoctrination in which subjects are expected to simultaneously accept two conflicting beliefs as truth, often at odds with their own memory or sense of reality. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy."
Edited to add:
It's a common tactic with fascist regimes. Nazis used to do it with Jewish propaganda by simultaneously claiming that Jews were weak vermin that needed to be exterminated and that they are this supervillain that controls all the money.
You currently see it a lot with the people chanting "Genocide Joe" and claiming he is some mastermind warhawk with at the same time claiming that he is some feeble, senile old man. He's Schrödinger's politician!
Ah I remember the days of "Obama, The Weak-Willed Tyrant" an incompetent man with a genius level intellect according to Fox News..
Edit: For context, I'm talking about 2008-2015ish when the Right claimed Obama was too soft to stand up to America's enemies and was this "weak child of a man", and that he was also this evil corrupt tyrant who gave no one an inch, claiming him to be a moron and yet also a diabolical mastermind plotting the Muslim Takeover of America
The amount of Racism was fucking unreal. Especially down here in the South, I rolled my eyes at a lot of "Vote for the Mormon, not the Muslim!" in 2012
Obama's not even Arabic! Why the fuck did everyone think he was a muslim? And even if he was, who fucking cares?
I feel like most people believe one or the other and the internet makes groups feel like one big person.
You have gravely misunderstood the Genocide Joe label, lol
Not sure on their current thinking but the root of that line of thinking predates Israel: European nationalist antisemites would say "Jews don't have a homeland that's why they're wrecking havoc everywhere else, they're jealous".
Overall, in general, zionist antisemitism is a thing.
Also some Christians believe the rapture will only come after Israel is back in the hands of the Jews. Since it hasn't happened already, they might think that it has to be completely in the hands of the Jews. It might be about Jerusalem instead of all of Israel.
So they can still hate them while wanting them to fulfill their "prophecy". Once they control whatever land some Bible contributor says they need to control, then God will punish them while rewarding all the good white folks in a way that lets them skip the whole scary dying thing.
Not sure if this specific asshole subscribes to that belief, it might just be normal Nazism (the Nazis wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar before understanding that you can't just send a large group of people to some other location without some kind of military conquest, which is part of why they called the Holocaust the "final solution").
This woman has no soul
Same lady who rolls up her windows when traveling through the "bad part of town"
I can assure you she never travels through the bad part of town...
Nikki is no moderate.
Moderate by GOP standards. Moderately less of a nazi or something like that
She's not even that. She went full Nazi when she called for the culling of the American people. Gas chambers and concentration camps.
She's the spitting image of American centrism.
See, that's why I can't vote for Biden. /s
I mean, Biden's the reason those bombs are there to begin with.
If you actually cared about Palestine to survive, your best bet is to vote Biden.
All the alternatives will make the situation literally worse.
But you don't care about Palestine do you? You just want Trump to win. Since your overlord Pootin commanded you to.
Nice work, Dimitri, how’s the weather in St. Petersburg?
Another lie.
You drop older stock bombs first so you don't have to decommission them. Everyone knows that. Israel already has all the bombs it needs to turn all of Gaza and the West Bank into a sheet of glass a dozen times over. Wtf are you talking about Biden sent them the weapons? American policy as to Israel has everything to do with its posture as to Iran and fuck all to do with Israel's posture as to Gaza, except that the West will not let Gaza or the West Bank fall into the hands of Iranian backed terrorists, i.e. Hamas.
She was ambassador to the UN. The Republicans and Likud together constitute the new Nazi party. Nationalist Zionists.
She's always been a ghoul
How hard can it be to not act on your weird chauvinsitic impulses in public as a politician?
Apparently it's pretty difficult.
Not oniony -- just normal Nikki Haley things, by this point.
Someone should finish her.
What a callous human being. I'm sickened by her actions.
War is literally a game to the GOP
Cow.
You misspelled Republicans. Most US-based Indians aren't anti-Islamic because they often get lumped in with muslims when Republicans go on xenophobic crusades.
99% of American voters have no problem with this whatsoever
If you've ever actually rolled up your sleeves and dealt with the American political system, what you'll quickly discover is that
And these are the ones with the money, the time, and the social networks to productively run for office. Everyone else running is either a protest candidate with no name recognition or a delusional wacko with more money than sense.
These are the options on your ballot for the 99% of American voters who end up supporting on paper. The "true believers" tend to be the 20-30% of folks who try to research individual candidates and come back with heads full of hagiography. Whether they're people who got juiced up on Beto O'Rourke or Ted Cruz, they've got a mythological understanding of the candidate based on an endless deluge of propaganda produced by the party.
Then you've got the 1% of people who really truly do the ugly work of getting people elected. And they do get a look behind the curtain. But they either stomach the horror and truck on for ideological reasons or make a play for the cash option and just look for ways to monetize the rot.
In the case of Israel, there's enormous amounts of money to be had in the rot. Between weapons contractors, financial interests, real estate developers, and ideologically driven lobbyists, the Israel platform has oodles of cash to float itself. Nevermind the geopolitical interest of having a western allied power guarding the Mediterranean entrance to the Suez Canal.
This isn't a "voter" problem, because there's no real anti-Israeli option for voters available. 99% of American voters never get to choose another policy, because all the money is pointed in the direction of the Israelis.
Lol. This is the party they want to replace 'genocide joe' with. Well done, kids!
Yes but see, if we just sit on our hands and don't vote we won't have any responsibility for what follows! Only voting for someone who is less than ideal on this issue is a morally bad choice!
I totally understand the point most of them are trying to make and agree with the sentiment, but they're fucking morons. 100% absolute jibbering idiots.
This is an ugly binary choice here because the United States electoral system is a steaming pile of horse shit. Do what I, your friendly neighborhood lefty, am doing and swallow your pride and vote for center right Joe Biden because he's leagues better than the dementia-addled, fascist Cheeto Benito. Then take all the disgust you've built up by voting for and living with another neoliberal corporate shill presidency and work your ass off to make sure we don't have to keep voting between Dumb and Dumber every fucking election.
Do it because we'll only be gently tiptoeing to the right under a Biden presidency, so it's less likely you'll end up in jail for discussing the "wrong" political ideology while that orange shitstained merkin would have me in jail just for writing this were it up to him. Don't make it up to him.
I would like to solve your trolley problem with multi track drifting please
So you're saying if I vote, I'll be complicit and won't have anything to complain or blame others about, and have to take responsibility for the consequence of my vote? Fuck that shit!
You do realize that "less than ideal" is probably an inadequate way to describe Joe funding a genocidal apartheid, right?
It's astonishing to me how comfortable you are with fascism, provided it wears a blue jersey.
I'm gonna vote for Biden if I have to rise from the dead and crawl through broken glass to do so, and I hope everyone reading this thread does.
I'm not willing to pretend he's not facilitating an ongoing genocide though.
I'm not.
I'm not American nor in the US.
This. You deal with the choice in front of you, and not the ones you wish you had. Life is bigger than our little worlds.
Who makes you pretend that? You guys all want a medal for preaching to the choir?
It would be nice if people actually knew what they were talking about though. Biden is REQUIRED by a law that was put in place years ago to provide Israel with weapons.
Oh get out of here with your facts. The kids are having a circlejerk. They weren't born at the time. They can't be expected to know these things.
Oh, he's just following orders!
It's not like we have other laws requiring you not to support genocide for this exact situation that he can use to halt arms shipments.
What is that law? Closest I think I can get is HR 4986 sec 227 which mentions Israel, but I can't read further. Who put it in place?
This is the faction a lot of our elected leaders think should be 'strong'.
Tankies don't show up to forums about headlines they can't cram into their preordained propaganda forms.
Yeah, those stupid kids should just realize that one constant in America is that we kill or enable the killing of children. They should just accept that children will be killed in their name and get over themselves like us grown ups.
No, it isn't.
We want to replace Genocide Joe with the Greens.
Unfortunately most American voters lack a conscience, so it's not going to happen.
If you actually want to attract people to your cause, you may want to consider changing your tone. It could also be beneficial to mention some positive things about the candidate that you recommend instead of just bashing the current regime.
Lmao, comment more.
You're definitely not making yourself look like you need live-in nursing care to wipe your ass.
You're also making really REALLY good, logical fair points and you're totally not moving the goalposts.
Take your bad faith ba to .ml or hexbear, you troglodyte.
Propagandists are so funny. It’s like…. You make shit up that can’t be proven, verified, or is otherwise even remotely realistic, and then you pretend it’s real to the point that you’re willing to argue it online with total strangers.
It’s blows my mind how this is done.
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I'm not defending Biden, but the view that Trump would be any less prepared to keep sending Israel weapons is utterly baseless. He wouldn't even pretend to care about the Palestinians, for one thing.
Ok, but Trump literally said he deports anybody who protests Israel
How is this better than Joe, who says that Isreal will lose us support if they don't stop and prioritize civilian safety in their attacks?
Anybody out there who can vet this? Cuz if I wanted a twice-impeached president victory I think I would post:
Where were you when the other hundred genocides around the world happened?