NOT EVERY FUCKING GAME NEEDS TO BE FUCKING BREATH OF THE WILD BE FUCKING ORIGINAL

b-but free form open world design with recognizable landmarks and a glide mechanic for easy travel

all games should be this because one game was fun

Subnautica?
- nods saints row 4

the lesson here is developers need more twink protagonists

Wish granted, here's your looter shooter

I TAKE IT BACK

Time and time again the industry will saturate itself with the exact same game 500 times and not learn its lesson. The people who call the shots have no concept of fun

tfw everyone copies the least-zelda zelda game of all time

I think that depends on what you think of as a Zelda game. I think it’s not very similar to a link to the past; however I think it expands on much of what made ocarina of time a successful game, while still innovating.
- IMO it's most similar to TLoZ
- I'd really love to hear in what way you think BotW is remotely similar to OOT, because I cannot think of a way you could make a game more dissimilar to Ocarina of Time while still trying to justify it being a Legend of Zelda game.

Just add a deflection/parry system and make enemy attacks well telegraphed and you're set

Metroidvania? Add a deflect system

RPG? Add a deflect system

Paradox-style strategy game? Add a deflect system

Paradox-style strategy game? Add a deflect system

blames the minorities
- Hoi4: Totally ignores the Holocaust
The melee parry system made Samus Returns annoying and Dread downright unplayable

I was happy when Pokemon did it, but the bar was pretty low to clear with that series.

Pokemon did nothing with it. It's the same game but with a world map you barely interact with. IMO routes were better. At least routes involved navigation, gimmickry, and some sort of intentional journey.
- Why the fuck did they give us an open world map but you still have to best the gyms in a specific order.... just make them scale based on how many badges you have.....
Pokemon is the only one that kind of makes sense at least
- sandwich dragon
Open world Pokemon should be a slam dunk but Paldea was such a boring world. There was nothing to actually discover except the Pokemon themselves, no unique structures or hidden stories or anything
They took the "these are just Oot trees lmao" meme as a source of insperation.
first pokemon game that wasn't 100% exactly the same as the previous game

I hate Breath of the Wild. It’s not a good game. I tried so many times to like it but it’s just a slog.

Sad we might never get a good Zelda again.

I was so disappointed after everyone hyped it up as the best game ever. I would rather play Ocarina of Time again. Not to say it's bad, but I couldn't finish it and it's sitting there gathering dust for now. What I will say though is the temple puzzles are the worst thing ever. Not good puzzles, and repetitive as hell.
- Yeah, I mean, it was a perfectly acceptable video game to play once. A little dull and unfocused. But fine. But the series has several seriously legendary entries. I'd sooner play Ocarina of Time ten more times than BotW once more.
I mean, I don't hate it. It's a good game, but it doesn't look or feel like a Zelda game. I feel like I'm playing Xenoblade: Zelda Edition
- Hyruleblade Chronicles: Breath of the Wild
I'm of the unpopular opinion that 3D zelda ruined zelda until Breath of the Wild, the first good 3D zelda game.

OK, what about a Breath of the Wild game, but with completely original design and mechanics?

completely original design and mechanics?

Looks inside

Anime characters and climbing.

Ubisoft ruined games fr, everything wants to be an open world

Okay but what if it had... survival crafting? Maybe some epic pirates and vikings? Perhaps some soulslike elements as well?

What are these breath of the wild imitators? The only ones I know are Genshin and maybe that one ubisoft greek myth kids game (Phoenix Rising or something?).

Yeah no idea what OP is going on about, guess haters gotta hate irrationally. Not like open world games started with BOTW.
- There's a specific vibe, like there's a je nai se quois about certain open world games that are have come up post BOTW. PokemonSword/Shield and Legends, Palworld, Genshin, the new Sonic game apparently, etc. Feels like Banjo Kazooie on steroids. Like those had a similar vibe that's distinctly different to Skyrim or Just Cause or Batman Arkham or GTA or Elden Ring but they're all similar to each other? I can't put it into words properly.
  
  Like, I'd say Fortnite Battle Royale is a BOTW-ified PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds. And it's not strictly the climbing/gliding, I wouldn't say Spider-Man or Batman Arkham are BOTW-like, nor just the soft(er) animation style, I wouldn't say Raft or No Man's Sky is BOTW-like, nor the combat/crafting system
  
  Although it may not necessarily be strictly a bad thing, to throw a different type of subgenre into a genre that was going to be dominated by GTA/Just Cause/Saints Row like open world, or a Splinter Cell/Assassin's Creed like open world, or a Minecraft/Roblox like open world or an Elder Scrolls like open world, etc.
Elden Ring is Dark Souls x Breath of the Wild. And there was that game Runic or something that was first to market with Breath of the Wild mechanics without being a switch exclusic
Pokemon Legends was quite heavily BOTW inspired
Off the top of my head, the latest Sonic game.

There are more I swear.

FF7: Rebirth added Sheikah towers
- Sheikah towers were just kinda stolen from Assassin’s Creed. The perches or whatever they were that unveiled the map. Breath of the Wild was heavily derivative of many games before its time. It’s just that they did what they wanted to do fairly well which is why it was a hit.
maybe Sable? gameplay trailer

Reject modernity. Embrace Peggle

Found the DougDoug viewer

We're gonna need another 500 copies before it's played out like the Ubisoft formula was.

This has always been a problem with the game industry (or any companies doing 'art'), one game is popular and profit-seekers will be much more quick to approve the funds for a "proven concept" than original ideas.

In fairness, indie game devs often copy recent popular games too, but they do at least often try interesting twists on it.

Yeah, to be fair when I was a kid, sidescrolling platformers and fighting games were overdone in the 16-bit era, then RPGs and 3D platformers in the PS1/N64 era, then we had your "your choices matter and FPS era, and then the Soulslike era.

No, the capitalists and business majors know the best way to design art. The actual developers can stand aside. porky-happy

Smellda

Buy skyrim

No, Todd Howard, get out of here
- DEW IT

I would prefer less breath of the wilds. Let's say... 0?

This is how I feel about Elden Ring. I just picked it up, and while the quality of life improvements for the soulsborne games is big (wow, a dedicated jump button!?), the open world with crafting just seems to dilute the overall experience. Not as much as I expected it to, but it just isn't as tight as the rest of them.

Still better than DS2 though.

Still better than DS2 though.

Elden Ring would've been much better if it was like 30% smaller
How does DS1 not have an open world with crafting
- Okay, so the Soulsbourne games do have open worlds, but they're not made arbitrarily larger so they can give you a mount to traverse the miles of empty space made for no other reason than to be bigger.

Snowrunner is like Breath of the Wild with trucks, lots of fun.

also not every multiplayer shooter has to be fornite!

and not every assassins creed game has to be an inbred clone of the previous assassins creed game, thatd be awesome!