conflating zionism and judaism is antisemitic
"the two parties are becoming too polarized"
the two parties:
"I John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with Blood. I had... vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done."
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it is now officially the stance of the us government that judaism is a genocidal religion
fucking wild
fuckin PRESENT?! that's fucked from rep tlaib
i mean why even dignify it with a vote
If you're gonna be there anyway, and you're already pretty much 100% committed to trying to solve things through the imperial government, why not?
she got got by leadership and this was as much protest as she could muster i imagine
she didnt vote yes so ill give her that
The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.
Wow, my rep is actually on the right side of something for once. I absolutely don't want to know his reasoning for voting no because I'm sure it's unhinged.
Thomas Massie has been consistently against any of the symbolic declarations of support for Israel for a while, to the point where AIPAC tried to run a smear campaign against him with his face in a black and white poster with the Words "Jew Hater" written underneath. I think he responded by declaring it election interference, but nothing came of it (obviously) but the guy somehow managed to stay seated.
Edit: Misspelled the freaks name
Edit: I was wrong fucking stupid reasoning.
Critical support either way. Somebody has the balls to stand up to aipac at least.
you do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to a libertarian US senator. he supports Israel's "right to exist," he just doesn't think it's antisemitic to disagree. average libertarian contrarian tantrum where he affirms all the premises of the institutions but rejects one of the conclusions based on a piddling technicality, thereby ensuring that everyone yells at him and he preserves his outsider veneer without actually having to affect anything or stand for something.
basically the right wing version of Bernie.
Wow it turns out the rabbis against zionism were actually antisemites all along!
•Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) is a radical anti-Israel and anti-Zionist activist group that advocates for the boycott of Israel and eradication of Zionism.
•JVP does not represent the mainstream Jewish community, which it views as bigoted for its association with Israel. JVP’s staunch anti-Zionist positions place it squarely in opposition to mainstream American Jews and Jews worldwide, most of whom view a connection with Israel as an integral part of their social, cultural or religious Jewish identities. JVP promulgates the view that Jews who identify even tangentially with Israel are motivated by white supremacy, Jewish racial chauvinism and religious supremacism.
https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/jewish-voice-peace-jvp-what-you-need-know
how good is gatekeeping a cultural identity in order to preserve a genocidal settler colony?
JVP promulgates the view that Jews who identify even tangentially with Israel are motivated by white supremacy, Jewish racial chauvinism and religious supremacism.
Correct?
Genocidal settler bastards. Death to Amerika, death to Israel, death to the Five-Eyed Empire; a thousand times, til there's no more air in my lungs to speak it and beyond
I’m honestly starting to feel like our best hope is to have aliens show up who are gonna take over earth like The Dominion in DS9, but insist we implement global communism.
Here is the text of the bill so you can read it for yourself.
H. Res. 888 - In the House of Representatives, U. S.,
November 28, 2023.
Whereas the Jewish people are native to the Land of Israel;
Whereas throughout history and across the reign of multiple kingdoms, the Jewish people were persecuted and expelled from the Land of Israel, forced to live as minority diaspora communities in other lands;
Whereas Jewish diaspora communities were historically violently persecuted in, and in some cases expelled from, other countries throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Asia due to their religion;
Whereas the Nazis attempted to annihilate the entire Jewish population of Europe during the Holocaust, murdering 6,000,000 Jews during this time;
Whereas this genocide provided new urgency to re-establish a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people following the Holocaust, where they would not be a vulnerable minority, where they could freely practice their faith, and where something like the Holocaust could never happen again;
Whereas the modern State of Israel was established on May 14, 1948;
Whereas even after the establishment of the State of Israel, other countries and terrorist entities continued to attack Israel, reject its right to exist, and call for its destruction; and
Whereas Israel is the only Jewish State, and therefore, despite persistent external threats, the existence of Israel provides Jews a place to live free from persecution and discrimination: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the House of Representatives—
(1) reaffirms the State of Israel’s right to exist;
(2) recognizes that denying Israel’s right to exist is a form of antisemitism;
(3) rejects calls for Israel’s destruction and the elimination of the only Jewish State; and
(4) condemns the Hamas-led terrorist attack on Israel.
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023677
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/888/texti thought these people went to expensive schools why the fuck does every line start with WHEREAS fucking hell
Linguistic inertia. The evil rich white dudes who wrote the sacred texts used language that way so now congress has to until the end of this cursed nation.
Most of them really didn't, a decent minority of the House didn't go to college at all. I looked up the guy who sponsored this resolution and he has a bachelors degree from a college with a 75% acceptance rate
Robert's rules.
888
blood and soil fascist proclamation
Whereas Jewish diaspora communities were historically violently persecuted in, and in some cases expelled from, other countries throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Asia due to their religion;
We've never been persecuted or expelled in North America though.
Native groups need to take this up, the exact language can certainly apply (and in their case the documentation is a few hundred years old and well agreed upon, vs based on mythology that certainly doesn't apply to Ashkenazi jews at the very least). Unfortunately logical consistency isn't a winning argument so it wouldn't do much.
Oh fuck off. I was going to do something cute like suggest Zionophobic. The US government when me and a neo nazi are in the same room
So next bill, affirm support for the creation of a state for every minority group historically persecuted and pushed out of their homeland right?
So zionists have turned the star of david into a new swastika, and now officially characterized jewishness as inherently genocidal, pro-apartheid, and colonial in nature.
In passing the resolution, the House pronounced the “right of the Jewish people to live peacefully in their native land,” Lawler said.
Fundamentally impossible to live "peacefully" when you're actively carrying out a genocide, but what do I expect from these ghouls.
Edit: Also, found the full thing. What a fucking joke. On the upside, I guess it doesn't do anything material?
I'm a jew born in the US, but if I were asked to identify an ethnic homeland it would be Ukraine. I think that's true for a lot of Ashkenazi if they're being honest with themselves.
Edit:
The UkraineBased homer
But "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is antisemitic.
Only allowed to say you deserve to exist freely if your Isreal
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.From the Jordan to the coast, Israel will be toast.
Only allowed to say you deserve to exist freely if your
IsrealYou know what it actually is.
Of course the colonizer caucazoid ghouls would say that; look at where the Anglo cracker barbarians come from
[wild gesticulating at the ENTIRE HISTORY OF AMERIKA'S FOUNDING.]
I believe you'll find that was long enough ago that the international law of "No Backsies" applies.
Nope, not a fuckin’ thing that matters. Just a chance for everyone to stake their claim on a position and make some statements that might resonate with the voters.
and make some statements that might resonate with the voters.
Overwhelmingly the hardline zionist position has been shown to not resonate with voters, but here we are a near total consensus in Congress. Bourgeois democracy is a farse.
But you have to vote for Joe Biden next year or else the Republicans might do something bad. They might arrest you for activist activity under a false pretense!
Did Ilhan Omar really vote yes?
YEA
I guess she was antisemitic all along
Infinite 9/11s on America and Israel
kek they're literally signing into law that a word means something else now
we need more stupid retconned fanfiction names for mayos, semitic and caucasian and aryan isn't enough.
Genocidal racism aside, is it that much more or less absurd than passing a law that says it's now a different time of day for half the year?
This shit really isn't new, they've been writing laws that contradict reality for a while now
more absurd because your example at least serves a practical purpose
"Yacubian devil" is perennial
Big fan of "bleach demon"
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Sending jews to Israel to be cannon fodder for the empire? Yeah, that's not antisemitism.
There was some sort of resolution a couple years ago that “condemned socialism” that had like 98% of reps voting for it. When the US politicians are all in alignment against you, you are probably doing something right.
I wonder if you put up a resolution condemning Nazis would they wring their hangs like the US always does in the UN?
Wasn't there a bill with funding for investigating white supremacy and neo-nazism in the military that the repubs voted down? There probably's already a record of them doing essentially that lol.
you can expect this as long as AIPAC's checks keep clearing and they aren't forcibly disbanded for being the malicious foreign agents of a nuclear-armed rouge state that they really are
I want to see how the anti Zionist Jews react to this.
Every politician who is a zionist must be called out as a genocidal racist fascist supporting an aparthied state and voted out. Zionism is incapable with American values. Jews don't need Israel. They can live anywhere in the anglosphere just fine. America needs war and oil profits. This "way of life" and "common interests" must be challenged loudly and openly.
American values?
Or supposed "values" of honest elections, Democracy, and equal rights.
can anyone link more information on this? I'm not finding any votes that match at house.gov
It looks like this resolution is what its referencing
Summary:
This resolution reaffirms Israel's right to exist. It also (1) recognizes that denying Israel's right to exist is a form of antisemitism; (2) rejects calls for Israel's destruction; and (3) condemns the Hamas-led attack on Israel.
Full text:
spoiler
Whereas the Jewish people are native to the Land of Israel;
Whereas throughout history and across the reign of multiple kingdoms, the Jewish people were persecuted and expelled from the Land of Israel, forced to live as minority diaspora communities in other lands;
Whereas Jewish diaspora communities were historically violently persecuted in, and in some cases expelled from, other countries throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Asia due to their religion;
Whereas the Nazis attempted to annihilate the entire Jewish population of Europe during the Holocaust, murdering 6,000,000 Jews during this time;
Whereas this genocide provided new urgency to re-establish a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people following the Holocaust, where they would not be a vulnerable minority, where they could freely practice their faith, and where something like the Holocaust could never happen again;
Whereas the modern State of Israel was established on May 14, 1948;
Whereas even after the establishment of the State of Israel, other countries and terrorist entities continued to attack Israel, reject its right to exist, and call for its destruction; and
Whereas Israel is the only Jewish State, and therefore, despite persistent external threats, the existence of Israel provides Jews a place to live free from persecution and discrimination: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the House of Representatives—
(1) reaffirms the State of Israel’s right to exist;
(2) recognizes that denying Israel’s right to exist is a form of antisemitism;
(3) rejects calls for Israel’s destruction and the elimination of the only Jewish State; and
(4) condemns the Hamas-led terrorist attack on Israel. Attest:
Making a Zion focused Bob Marley playlist . Hoping to blast it in public spaces while screaming at everyone around me that they are anti semites.
Rashida stays winning so fucking much. Quite literally the only politician worth saving in the U.S. government.
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oh. i didn't notice that until right now.
Her Dad was a general in a genocide. She ain't some freedom fighter, she's a chip off the old block.
Who is her dad?
This number doesn't include absentees, right? Would it be hoping too much that that's a 'protest vote'?
Fuck Amerikkka
Reminds me, I need to steal a flag to use as a firestarter for next time I use my fire pit
This follows the ihra definition of Antisemitism. Canada and a number of countries and institutions follow this principle.
Makes sense. Claiming the only Jewish state in the world shouldn't exist, with the history of atrocities perpetrated against the Jews, is pretty clearly saying that Jews should be killed. That's exactly what would happen should Israel cease to exist as history has shown us.
Just because zionists are genocidal doesn't mean Palestinians (many of whom are also Jewish) are going to do the same to them.
That's exactly what would happen should Israel cease to exist as history has shown us.
yes because jews famously didnt live in palestine until the british carved it out to create israel. Moronic take.
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You're being antisemitic actually. If you're not Jewish, don't argue, just shut up.
It's true Israel serves as a refuge for Jewish people, but if someone believes a state was founded illegitimately on stolen land why does that necessitate the belief people there should be killed? Like people who talk about decolonization in Western states, giving land back to indigenous people, they aren't saying the people living there now should be killed, or that there can't be a way of sharing land more equitably.
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