Donald Trump found guilty of hush-money plot to influence 2016 election
Donald Trump found guilty of hush-money plot to influence 2016 election
Trump found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records in first criminal trial against a US president
Donald Trump has been found guilty of using a criminal hush-money scheme to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.
The verdict came after a jury deliberated for less than twelve hours in the unprecedented first criminal trial against a US president. It marks a perilous political moment for Trump, the presumptive nominee for the Republican nomination, whose poll numbers have remained unchanged throughout the trial but could tank at any moment.
So the Republican nominee is a thirty-four time convicted felon?
I guess I can be president too someday.
Convicted felons can run for office. They just can’t vote in the election.
I desperately want him to lose Florida by one vote. His own.
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Yup you just have to go on TV, act like an asshole constantly, and gain a cult like following from the dumbest Americans imaginable.
Could someone explain how it's possible for him to be running for president?
Like, are there no laws against this? Is the only requirement for the person to have a pulse?
If felonies prevented people from holding government positions just imagine how many bogus charges would be leveled at the GOP's enemies just to see if anything stuck. Just look at how Russia throws bogus charges at people to prevent them from running against Putin.
There are no laws against it, no.
In fact he can be president and in prison at the same time, but he won't get prison time.
Hahahaha.... he can't even visit Canada now. "Criminally inadmissible". Great head of state you're voting for republicans.
Does this constitute a felony not of moral turpitude?
Cause if so, he can’t vote for himself in his home state.
And republicans, the "Law and Order" party, will still vote for this man.
right. Ol' Joe is where it's at.
Brand new account made for trolling? Colour me surprised!
I’m sure this will be endlessly delayed by every kind of legal maneuver possible, and I personally don’t expect the sentence to include prison time, but I don’t care. The motherfucker has been found GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS. That’s good enough for me.
They don't even have to delay endlessly.
They just need to say it's all rigged against him, take the presidency and pardon himself and his cronies.
His base thinks falsifying records is "smart" and the banks are dumb for falling for it. They still think he's a stable genius
I trust the tough on crime Republicans will be appalled and change their vote since they're so against felons being involved in the democratic process--or are those just the darker-skinned ones it applies to?
"Not like that" - Republikkklowns.
They think that the woman he cheated on Melania with and the lawyer who facilitated the transaction, along with all of the documented evidence, means that the global conspiracy to keep Trump down is only getting even more sinister.
Nevermind that he farted himself to sleep during the trial and refused to testify. Those objective facts don't stand up to the conspiracy theory they've created in their echo chamber.
Nah, they've been setting the stage for a year that he's being railroaded by "crooked joe". He won't have lost many votes with his convictions. But some...
From CNN:
Judge Juan Merchan sets a sentencing hearing for July 11 at 10 a.m. ET
Seems like a long delay, is that typical in a high profile case like this?
They requested the delay to July, since he is in court for another case in another area. I suppose it was reasonable to grant it. It'd be unfair for someone to not get their right to a trial, even if they were found guilty of a crime in another area.
It'd make more sense to keep him in custody in the meantime though. I mean, that's what they do for normal people. Right?
The Bankman-Fried one was even longer.
grab him by the pussy
(Trump's) poll numbers have remained unchanged throughout the trial but could tank at any moment.
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/nx-s1-4974598/trump-verdict-trial-voters-presidential-election
NPR polling indicates that only a small percentage of Republicans would be affected by a guilty verdict.
11 % of independents said they'd be less likely to vote for Trump.
Small amounts of Republicans would be less likely to vote for Trump with a guilty verdict. I believe that I heard 7% on the radio, but I can't find a news article to back that up.
I highly doubt any 2024 Republican, let alone 7%, have any actual reservations whatsoever about casting their vote directly for Trump.
Like: I think I can safely say 7% of Republican voters are obligate grifters and liars too for its worth.
(Trump's) poll numbers have remained unchanged throughout the trial but could tank at any moment.
Bold statement!
That should cost him a few delegates, hopefully.
Hopefully enough to make a difference in the general election in some swing states.
now what
realest question in the thread
Vast amounts of bullshit. From every side.
Edit: are there people out there who don’t think it’ll be a circus? I agree with the verdict 100%, but let’s not kid ourselves. The next few months are going to be ridiculous.
This reminds me of that simpsons episode where Sideshow Bob becomes republican mayor via voter fraud.
Kinda nice to actually see the court and sentencing part happen in real life instead of another dr evil retiring with zero consequences.
So far it's largely just a historical footnote. Wait until sentencing before you get too excited. I'd wager those consequences you speak of are mostly wishful thinking.
I had to Google this to make sure it was real.
Now is he gonna be like Bannon and ignore sentencing because there are no consequences for doing so?
I’m sure he’ll attend because he’s unlikely to do time anyway.
Six legal experts - including defense lawyers and former prosecutors - told Reuters it was rare for people without criminal histories - like Trump - who are charged solely with falsification of business records to be sentenced to prison time in New York, with punishments such as fines being more common.
But they said such a sentence would not be impossible, and cautioned that it was too early to predict what punishment Trump could face if convicted.
Cohen did time as a first time convict for pretty much the same stuff, only less so, but no, I don't think Trump will do time.
And yet he'll still get votes.
Whilst I've been waiting for this day for ages, it gives me no pleasure to realise it means very little.
Another asterisk to add, or at this point one of those other footnote symbols.
We'll run out of numbers and page room at this rate! We'll need an encyclopedia worth of books just for the footnotes.
- giant shocked face *
