1y ago

Chick-fil-A changing its chicken sparks backlash

www.newsweek.com

Fast-food chain Chick-fil-A has sparked a social media backlash after announcing that it will soon allow certain antibiotics in the chickens it raises, citing supply issues.

Chick-fil-A restaurants in the U.S., Canada and Puerto Rico will transition "from chicken raised with No Antibiotics Ever (NAE) to chicken raised with No Antibiotics Important to Human Medicine (NAIHM), starting in the spring of 2024," the company said in a statement posted on its website this week.

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1y ago

Chick-fil-A changing its chicken sparks backlash

www.newsweek.com /chick-fil-changing-chicken-sparks-backlash-1882777

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"In a statement to Reuters, Chick-fil-A said the policy change was due to challenges it foresees finding chicken supplies that "meets our rigid standards.""
So, clearly, the solution is "lower your standards"? 🤔
- If the other choice is make less money then it's obvious what corporations will do
- taking care of their chickens is not lowering their standards, its raising them
  
  I think that's the trick though, they aren't "their" chickens. They're buying them from 3rd party vendors.
  If they wanted to be serious about quality, they'd set their own standards and raise their own chickens.
- I mean, lowering standards is a pretty common solution. A friend of mine who was a firefighter said they wanted more female firefighters - so they lowered test standards so they were able to pass.
  
  Not sure if you're a sexist asshole or referring to tests that were originally made to be sexist/racist to only prefer a specific type of person, like the Jim Crow Literary tests that were purposely difficult and confusing to stop black folks from voting.
  
  This is completely off topic, but here's some facts for you, from someone who works at a fire department.
  Those physical fitness tests were pretty arbitrary. They don't have much basis in the job itself.
  At most departments, physical fitness tests are for the application only, and a LARGE percentage of current firefighters couldn't pass them just a few years later.
  There are many, many jobs a firefighter does, and most of them do not require massive amounts of physical strength.
  Firefighters deal with the public, and often in a medical capacity far more often than an extinguishing fire capacity. Having female paramedics available to run medical calls is very important for the community. This is the same for having a mix of employees from all socioeconomic groups that are in the area.
  There are a LOT of fire departments that are switching to a more fair entrance criteria, and that is making the job better, not worse.
Chick-fil-A budget
Food $200
Data $150
Rent $800
Homophobia $3,600
Utility $150
someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my company is dying
- Stop spending so much on homophobia
  
  If you could get them to ignore their "moral compass" you could save them $4,416
I don't get the popularity of Chick-fil-A. Bland sandwiches and little variety.
- It has a conservative Christian cult following due to the founder’s political and religious views.
  
  They don't give a shit about LGBT lives, but they sure do give a shit about antibiotics... I'll give you a single guess as to why.
  
  No it doesn't. It's just generally immensely popular.
- First off, remember it's fast food, standards are abysmal.
  But it's an actual piece of chicken, that's actually prepared correctly.
  If you got it in a sit down restaurant or even pub, you wouldn't comment on it.
  But compare it to any other chicken sandwich you could get from a drive thru in the last 20 years and the hype makes sense.
  No matter where you are, if you see a chicfila you know you'll get a decent chicken sandwich that isn't ridiculously expensive.
  A burger place isn't going to do chicken as well as a dedicated chicken place, and KFC is a joke, so the only real competition for that niche is Popeyes on a national level.
  
  I guess you can still call it good but they switched to Tyson on the East Coast like 10 years ago and yeah it's bland and generic.
  
  KFC in North America could learn a thing or two from KFC in China. It's their McDonald's.
  
  Twenty years ago? Probably?
  Ten years ago? Doubtful
  But the past few years have seen most of the fast food fried chicken places go hard on chicken sandwiches. And even mcdonald's has stepped up their game to being actually pretty decent.
  Mostly chikfila just coasts on their recognition from 20 years ago and the zealots who refuse to try anything else.
  
  Fast food also varies so much across the US. I talked up Chick-fil-A so much after having it in Texas, and then when I brought my girlfriend to one in Florida it was garbage.
  
  Dave's Hot Chicken would like a word with you.
  
  Popeye's is better. I've had Chick-fil-A once (bought for me) and it was exactly what it looked like: a chicken sandwich. It was a bit bland and watery.
  
  One thing I do like is that they have (the option of) whole grain buns... I've been unable to find that elsewhere.
  
  If juicy=flavorful then sure, it's flavorful. I look for more though.
- Right wing chicken chain has loyal right wing followers
  
  This is the only explanation that makes any sense.
- Your forgot expensive too.
  
  Everything is expensive now
- Seriously. It's like being in love with average quality.
  In my city, the dive bar makes better chicken sandwiches. How depressing that people live like that.
  
  In my city, the dive bars make phenomenal chicken sandwiches, which cost 4-5 times as much as Chick fil A, who makes a good chicken sandwich.
- I prefer "Dave's Hot Chicken". Large boobs, and lots of spice.
- The peach milkshake slaps but the food sucks. Popeyes is better for God’s sake.
  Of course I stopped going entirely after they said they stopped donating to LGBTQA+ groups and then got fucking caught doing it yet again so yeah fuck Hate Chicken
- Yeah, I mean, their stuff is okay but pretty unexciting IMHO. They might be inexpensive, kinda the Taco Bell route.
  
  Taco Bell isn't that cheap anymore. I ate there not long ago for the first time in years and it was over 10$ for the basic taco combo, not even Supreme. And they sucked. They were almost completely devoid of fillings. They are on my eternal shit list now.
  
  They're not inexpensive.
- I think you're just being contrarian.
  
  Not here. Here that's the "normal" side, eating the homophobia jesus chicken is the minority.
  Of course, all of the lgbt people I know eat also there, so I don't feel the need to be performative about it, my friends won't deride me for going they'll ask for de-ride there.
- Their fries didn't even have salt when I tried them
- It is pretty much the pinnacle of "white people fried chicken". American KFC (because Asian KFC is godlike) comes close but so many people never grew up beyond eating chicken tenders and bones scare them.
  So you have inadequately seasoned chicken tenders soaked in pickle juice and people lose their minds.
  And the strong focus on Christian Values, err, "Good service" means that nobody will ever be faced with the horror that is the realization that their satisfaction is not the only reason that someone is working in fast food.
- Reliable/consistent, fast.
  No one gives a shit about the politics of the company outside of the permanently online
Fuck ChikFila and thier bigot sponsors.
- Absolutely fuck ChikFila I haven't spent a dime at ChikFila since they started all the anti lgbt bullshit in the 2010s.
  
  I bought a sandwich for them when I read that they stopped doing all that stuff, of course they quitely started up again.
  You really aren't missing much. It is marginally better quality compared to any chain and lower quality than a real restaurant.
Just tell your customers you upped the Jesus in every sandwich and they'll overlook everything else.
- reddit comment
Fuck chick fil a. Since I worked there back in 2015, they've cut portion sizes by almost a third and raised priced by almost 50%.
I call bullshit. You can source antibiotic free chicken if you'll pay for it, they're just trying to extract more profit again.
- Insofar as I recall they're still one of the better fast food joints wrt worker treatment.
  
  It's a very mixed bag, due to the fact that most of them are franchises.
  I remember when I quit and went to amazon, my hourly went up by more than 50%. I worked 20 hours less every week and for health insurance.
  But there's also some near me with signs up advertising $18/hour.
- They are facing a genuine supply issue. A different company made a sudden move because they wanted to maximize profits.
  Tyson, one of the main chicken processors, killed their no-antibiotics program at the end of 2023. They moved from claiming meat came from chickens that had had no antibiotics used (NAE) to claiming no human-relevant antibiotics had been used (NAIHM).
  The rest of the market can't meet the demand for NAE, at least not in the short term.
- "citing suppy issues"
  Hmm... our supply of cash would be bigger if we cut corners over here. The thought of the potentially bigger cash pile is now bothersome to me.
Popeye's chicken sandwiches are better.
- If the cooking oil is fresh, this is 100% true. That fucking sandwich is a banger.
  The hard part for me is finding a Popeye's that has fresh cooking oil. : (
- No they aren't and I feel bad for anyone who thinks so just because of this comment.
- How u have time to gaf about fast food?!?!
  
  He asks as he gaf about some random Lemmy comment lmao
Still hatin’ teh gheys tho
Is it still going to be soggy and disgusting?
- That's the secret ingredient: homophobia
- I've only eaten there a few times, but I don't remember it being soggy.
- Have you...ever eaten at chick fil a?
  
  The chicken has always been moist-soggy. This was fine when everyone else had dry as fuck chicken. Now everyone else has figured out the moist-crispy sandwich and CFA just isn't that great.
  
  Yes. The chicken is soggy and gross.
Rather they changed their politics instead of their shitty diabetes.menu
- I've never been there because of their politics.
  
  Good. Fuck hick fil-a
Fuck chikfila, and fuck you if you spend your money there. Fucking bigots
- Hey now, the chicken don't taste homophobic.
  
  are you regularly tasting homophobes to the point where you feel qualified to make that statement?
- According to the Good Place if you eat their sandwich it means you hate gay people.
  
  if you've bought anything there then you are contributing directly to people who fund and support the anti-lgbtq+ movement so yes, you cannot be a customer there and also support these social movements
- Ironically enough, they hire shit tons of LGTBQ+ people in my area and the LGBTQ+ crowd fucking stans them.
- https://youtu.be/sO-msplukrw
  Although I rarely eat there, maybe once or twice a year, this is all the justification I need.
Maybe they should try making it good.
Soggy salty chicken sandwich was fine in 2003 when everyone else was doing dry chicken sandwich. Now the meta is crunchy and juicy chicken sandwich so CFA is just mid.
Shitty company who hates regular people does a thing and I don’t care.
- What do you mean 'hates regular people'?
I'm thinking that this homophobic fast food restaurant does not warrant the amount of comments in this thread. Yes I am aware of the irony of my commenting.
Go to a different chicken place if you don't like their changes. Or you know, make your own chicken at home.
- OR GO VEGAN. Just for a moment THINK about this. They are using antibiotics that WE need, to make your bloody nuggets. Try tomorrow to eat less meat.
  
  No...they're specifically using antibiotics we don't need for people. It's cool if you want to advocate for veganism, but make sure you're being factually accurate when you do so if you want to be taken seriously.
Should've raised prices.
Bojangles
- ....are literally being put out of business here due to CFA.
Maybe they could just go away
I want a chikin sandwich, some waffle fries and don't forget the Dr pepper bitch
- it's been a long time since I watched this video
I tried their food as they recently opened up in my city in Canada. Their chicken sandwich and waffle fries are a complete joke compared to local chains here and McDonald's/KFC of all places. Dry af chicken, sad spice and soggy waffle fries. At a local chain I get a good Nashville Hot Chicken Sandwich, beautiful steak cut fries and a good drink. They just expanded to a second location here. Chick-fil-A do better
- I live much, much further south than you. Gulf coast state.
  I hesitate to compliment them because they're a restaurant chain built on the back of an established religion that's slowly dismantling our country.
  But I will say that my experience has been the exact opposite. Fresh, juicy chicken, best waffle fries around. Too bad I don't buy from them, because really the only comparable chicken sandwich around here is Popeyes and those tend to be greasy.
- Personally I've never had chic fil a but I am very critical of chicken sandwiches. Popeyes is what I look for from a fast food chicken sandwich but my local joint is the best. Nashville hot, spicy barbecue even nekid. Portions are big too . I just really like chicken sandwiches.
  Oh yeah I've heard the Christian chicken described as it taste safe and I don't regret never trying it.
- I'd rather they didn't and just went away instead.
So strange that a fast food chain would are haters and popular
- It won't be noticeable.
  They only started doing "no antibiotics ever" in 2019 so this is basically only reverting back a change they just made a few years ago.
Making sure the chickens stay healthy is perfectly reasonable. Particularly if the antibiotics aren't necessary for human medicine.
- The antibiotics are used so that the chickens don't contract infections and die from living in inhumane conditions.
  This change allows them to increase their profit margin at the cost of animal welfare.
  
  The article specifically said they're only going to administer antibiotics to sick chickens and those in close proximity to sick chickens, not generally as a preventative.
  
  That's zero sum, from the chicken-life perspective.
  Die of infection or die by slaughter, their life isn't changed by the variable in context.
  Edit I'm saying antibiotics are not for the animal's wellbeing. They are a tool to extract profit, and not let the chickens die at the wrong moment. That's it.
- making sure the chickens stay healthy*
  *profitable
- Yeah, totally, just giving chickens the free range space to live healthily in the first place is definitely the inferior choice. You nailed it.
- Do you want antibiotic-resistant diseases? Because this is how you get antibiotic-resistant diseases.

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