Elon Musk's drug use causing turmoil for Tesla, SpaceX execs: WSJ

They don't mention it causing turmoil at Xitter, presumably because they are already at maximum turmoil capacity

Theres nobody left there to ask
Perhaps they contacted Twitter for a comment on Elon's drug use and got a statement that read: 💩
- I still can't believe that's a real thing he did, it's straight out of a comedy skit.
  I loved when the writers would try to get in contact and would point out the reply in their articles. Seems they got tired of it after a while unfortunately.
You know, I thought they already were at capacity before Elmo agreed publicly with fascists.
I really like the term "maximum turmoil capacity". LOL, ty.
- I used to play bass for Maximum Turmoil Capacity.
  We were an experimental noise core thrash jazz quartet.
Xhitter employee #1: Oh dude, I think the boss is tripping balls!
Xhitter employee #2: Maybe today won't be a total loss. Should I ask him to share that shit with us?

drug use? it would explain a few things...

No. I interacted with him on two occasions during the PayPal days. They were pitching PayPal as a payment mechanism for a bunch of our verticals. Even back then he was weird, awkward, and cringe. I think there is video of him back then taking possession of a McLaren and you can see how cringe he was.
EDIT: Found it.. On rewatch, it doesn't really show how insufferable he was in person. It's funny to see how x.com gets recycled though.
- Then he immediately wrecked his (uninsured) McLaren:
  https://www.thedrive.com/news/32191/did-you-know-elon-musk-wrecked-an-uninsured-mclaren-f1
- Holy receding hairline, Batman!
- Lol i love how he called it X .com way back then and they renamed it to paypal.
- Some prophetic words from the finance there.
- That's not just a McLaren, that's probably the most famous McLaren of all time.
- I was thinking he wrecked his F1 but I think that was Rowan Atkinson..
The number of lies that came out of that Muppets mouth during that cringy piece was remarkable. My fav had to be 'just three years ago i was sleeping on the floor on the YMCA hostel'. what an absolute fucking donkey of a human.
- Calling him that is an insult to Muppets everywhere. You gotta know Gonzo would make a way better CEO.
I think I read somewhere he's hopped up on ket every day (but someone correct me if wrong)
- You don't get hopped up on Ketamine, that's for the comedown.
  You get stimmed up on amphetamines, and then take the edge off with downers.
  The way he's slurring his words, I'd guess benzodiazapines (Xanax, Valium, etc.)
  But I'm sure he's taking Ketamine as well, and probably mixing up quite a few daily cocktails with who knows what else.
  His dumbass is probably doing a bunch of RC's to top it all off.
- he is lookin a little rough, even for that piece of shit
- I LOVE KETAMINE SO FUCKING MUCH. I LOVE IT SO MUCH I PUT IT ALL ON MY MUSK.
- I'd buy that.
His whole life story explains everything already. The drugs are just the icing on the cake.
Not as many things as untreated bipolar disorder would explain.

I’m usually ready to laugh at this asshole, but if he has a drug problem, then I pity him.

Important note: pity and sympathy are similar, but not the same thing.

Normalize pitying your enemies instead of hating them.
- Yeah do like Mr T. And pity the fools.
- I used to work with this mean miserable guy and there were so many times a lot of us would try to cheer him up. Share food, invite to after work drinks, movies, concerts, just include him. He never took anyone up on it, ever. After a friend of mine left that job and confronted him about his shitty attitude and self alienation, he just said, “I don’t want your pity.”
  Ironically, after I heard that I stopped sympathizing and did just pity the guy.
- I can do both. I pity the sad man who is addicted to drugs, but also he’s a fascist campaigning for human suffering and I hate that about him.
Sometimes I say "sympathy without empathy" for these situations lol
Empathy is to understand another's emotional state. Sympathy is to effectively mirror it.
Buuuut, much like "literally" now means "figuratively" and "decimate" has lost all meaning after being mistaken for "devastate"... Carry on. The species is circling the drain anyhow.
- Misuse of decimate gets me every 10th time

It's interesting to look back at his AMA on reddit in 2015. Every response was so to the point and on topic, even friendly. Clearly something changed since then.

I like John Oliver's take that he really didn't like the orders to shut down factories during pandemic and got a lot of support from 'mah freedom' nutjobs over this causing not-so-slow fall into the extreme right rabbit hole. It actually makes a lot of sense. He clearly craves attention and approval. He used to get it from the left because electric cars are green and SpaceX is cool technology but eventually the left began demanding more regulation and he started getting some criticism (which he doesn't like that much...). At the same time he noticed that the right is ready to accept him as the 'free speech savior' and love him unconditionally as long as he will help them 'own the libs' so he switched sides.
- I think that Some More News’s take on it also gets to the point. He got vocally anti union and the left got vocally anti billionaire. Many CEOs seem to take pro union sentiment personally and he seems to be particularly sensitive.
I am guessing he had good publicists, probably decided he could do the job better and got rid of them just before the pedo thing.
- Pretty much. After fucking up PayPal and getting kicked out for being an insufferable POS, he hired a PR firm who constructed the real life Tony Stark image for him on the public. Writing and getting press around his person. They also unfortunately had to tell him to not say or do certain stuff that would damage his image, there's nothing a narcissist hates more than being told no. They also allowed him to position Tesla as the futuristic libertarian ideal and the overpriced manufacturers they are now, and SpaceX as the renaissance of US space exploration. In my opinion not entirely undeserved perceptions but immensely amplified by a marketing machinery. Then he had a meltdown, fired every single PR, marketing person from every single one of his companies. Declared himself the only marketing that his companies needed. He essentially bought into the crap that his own PR wrote for him.
- In his recent "interview" with Alex Jones, Musk called all PR firms "propagandists.". So that tracks.
I can tell you that nothing has changed about him. I personally know people who worked with him at that time, and he was just as much an arrogant and insufferable egoist as he is now. Legendary screaming matches and him talking completely out of his ass about absolutely everything were the norm and expected in every meeting.
Do any research on his tenure at Zip2/PayPal or any relationship he's ever had, and you'll see Musk has always been a petulant child, he just had a lot of people around him to try and hide it, but it seems like he's scared basically all of them away.
his political situation was completely different

What about his toxicity and narcissism? Are they also cause for turmoil everywhere he goes?

No no, now that he has a drug problem, we're supposed to pretend he's not a narcissist, never said anything racist or sexist, and is just a misunderstood entrepreneur.
Those were already handled by dedicated people in most places.

Execs: mental break down isn't sexy, let's say he has a drug problem so people can rally for him.

Here's an archive link to the original WSJ report.

In 2018, for example, he took multiple tabs of acid at a party he hosted in Los Angeles. The next year he partied on magic mushrooms at an event in Mexico. In 2021, he took ketamine recreationally with his brother, Kimbal Musk, in Miami at a house party during Art Basel. He has taken illegal drugs with current SpaceX and former Tesla board member Steve Jurvetson.
That seems, uh, well-documented.
Also, Kimbal? Ok.
- Taking party drugs at a party is honestly fine with me. Taking party drugs at work is something an asshole would do.
- He seems pretty public about it. I’m wondering how many of these celeb parties have a “no phones” policy.

After all... you can't spell "cocaine" without "AI".

Unless you can't resist getting fancy and spelling it "cocagne*
- co-cag-nee?
- Only if it's from the Cocagne region of Columbia
Come to think of it, if every time Musk says "AI" you replace it with "cocaine" or "hard drugs", his behavior starts to make a lot more sense.
"Our hard drug future"
Could make a good extension. Try popping it into any of this drivel: https://analyticsindiamag.com/top-ten-best-quotes-by-elon-musk-on-artificial-intelligence/

Drug use? ..... Or he was always just an idiot.

Just because you're naturally stupid, it doesn't always mean you're on drugs.

There’s a high chance of both being the correct answer.
Most of my friends use the same drugs, but none of them are cunts like Musk.
Drugs are invoked a lot to explain and justify human behavior to some external factor. It's like when people say Nazis were on meth as an explaination for their actions, while not applying the same logic to basically every other military using amphetamines.
or both?

It would be awful if he got ahold of too much fentanyl.

I hope he buys Facebook next

He's really working hard to follow closely in the footsteps of his idol, Hitler.

He's following Hitler's lead

the insanity and the cartoon villainy are a no comment

Elin's on smack
And there ain't no going back

Elon's on smack
And he ain't be going back
For the holidays!

Drug test and prosecute.

Why would someone be prosecuted for failing a drug test? He doesn't live in South Korea
- Yeah, wrong word. More like the share holders should hold to account.
- Some drugs are illegal
The American way!!

Criticizing Musk is what all the cool kids are doing. Everyone that likes to follow the latest fad seems to want a piece of the action.

just say it, you know you want to say it. sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeple

How could someone who doesn’t actually do anything using drugs cause turmoil?

Just listen to what he says, nod your head and go back to your job.

Okay, so either you
A) Don't know who Elon is and that he's the CEO of Tesla
B) Don't know what a CEO is or how their role affects the company
C) are just a troll
D) any combination of the above
- Yes, but what’s the coolest answer
https://futurism.com/the-byte/ex-tesla-employee-disagree-elon-musk
- Ok then, I guess….. maybe don’t work for the company if you don’t like it? I dunno….

Musk denied the report, saying he is subjected to random drug testing by NASA.

But too late, it's been mentioned in a headline so now everyone just believes it. Obviously it's true because it's something bad about Elon Musk.

Or are anti-drug laws bad right now too? I've lost track which is more important to believe bad things about.

So, the guy smoked weed on camera and you're denying he's used drugs? He's also talked openly about his ketamine prescription, which you absolutely should know he got a prescription for AFTER he certainly tested positive for it. You don't have to simp this hard. He's already proud of you, and I bet your dad is too.
- I'm not denying anything. I'm pointing out that everybody's leaping to a conclusion because it suits the "Musk bad!" mob narrative without even bothering to read the article where some doubt is cast on it.
  Bill Clinton smoked weed once. Does that mean he's stoned right now?
  You don’t have to simp this hard.
  And here's the other common symptom of the "Musk bad!" mob mentality, the assumption that anyone who says anything not bad must be in some kind of "Musk good!" group.
Dude has lied about way more important shit than that, so why should anybody believe him?
Do you understand exactly how easy a drug test is to beat unless you have a fucking junk scanner?
He smoked pot live on camera. If he were actually getting random drug tests he would have failed instantly and had his clearance revoked. Because you can tell a clearance investigator that you murder hookers on the weekend after raw dogging them and nobody cares. But if you have ever even LOOKED AT the devil's lettuce, you are a security threat.
The reality is that "random drug testing" for clearance purposes mostly boils down to if you piss off someone AND don't have a supervisor who will tell their supervisors that you can't come to the piss truck today because you are super awesome and that this is hurting national security.
- I would expect that they started doing the drug tests because he smoked pot live on camera. I recall there was rather a kerfuffle about it at the time.
I've worked in lots of places with random drug testing that were full of drug users. For almost everything but weed, drugs are out of your system within hours or days. Being subject to random testing doesn't mean he isn't using drugs.
I mean... he's already publicly admitted abusing prescription drugs. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/872260000491593728
He has a prescription for ket, but people never abuse their prescriptions.
And no this isn't about being anti drug it's the harm and potential for more harm that it is causing others. That's when personal freedoms generally go out the window. Liberals are pretty consistent with that despite you trying to pretend it's arbitrary.
It also serves as a potential explanation for his truly insane behavior
It would not surprise me at all to find out that Elon Musk paid to develop a brain-dead clone of himself, simply to provide samples for drug tests while he smokes up all the freaking time