Thirteen months later...

damn it's almost like China have money and scientists and can work out how computer chips are made

In fact, they have so much money that they can acquire American scientists because they either face discrimination or receive no funding from Americans
but every good hamburger-eating ameroid knows that innovation only happens when you are owned by venture capitalists leveraging vaporware to inflate speculative bubbles with hype and funnel all cash into IP lawyers to crush any threats to market share.
- Is that why every smart phone is touchscreen only

They really thought they were ordained by God to set up a technological force field forever ending progress in China

the world is not ready for Mcmahon Jinping

Extra funny detail is that Schneider was tweeting about US rules against American citizens not being allowed to work in the Chinese chip industry.

Whatever will China do without the contributions of the American chip-making Ubermensch (who, for some reason, have no high end chip foundries in America)?

Not like a large amount of the technology is scientifically developed and the breakthroughs are well documented in research papers or anything.
- You see, scientific knowledge remains inert until it comes into contact with the C R E A T I V I T Y of the white man.

It turns out the core needs the periphery a lot more than the periphery needs the core.

A child could have seen this coming.

Why are Americans so stupid???

Because white Americans think the universe bends towards having them come out on top of every circumstance. They never lose, and bad things don’t actually happen to them.
Internalized racism and a shallow world outlook does that.

how do I buy their stuff. I want out of the cpu spyware

i tried to find a "chinese" phone a couple months ago.. you definitely cannot buy one from any remotely legit looking site you can search for. but hey this is the price of freedom, free markets, and freedom, and apple pie, and flags, and freedom and stuff.
- I personally prefer OnePlus phones, and every phone I've gotten from them has been directly from their website. I haven't seen a "buy" button yet on Huawei's site
"But now the Chai knees will spy on you!"
-- most burgerlanders
- Why do I care if the Chinese spy on me? They're not my government, and they're not likely to share.
The Secure Equipment Act of 2021 effectively prevents Americans from being able to use many (but not all) modern Chinese phones. While you may see them for sale on Amazon etc, you cannot activate them on any carrier.
- You can't just buy a sim card and pop it into whatever?
I believe some brands have official stores on Alibaba, but it’s hard to actually filter them. You’ll come across like 50 different resellers and there’s no moderation so sometimes they have “Huawei” in the name. It’s best to find a website from a free country and import it from them

Necessity is the mother of invention it seems.

They've also recently made a pretty cool breakthrough in 3D NAND technology as well

Okay yes we've had first protectionism but what about second protectionism?

anyone have a Huawei phone? how do you like it?

i've got an old moto e6 that my mindless consumer self wants to replace but really doesn't need to

Im getting a Huawei solely on the basis of reports that Israel couldn’t hack them to spy on Hamas
- Do not rely on that. The reports are that Israel did not hack them, not that they could not. If you had a top shelf team of hardware and software backwards engineering experts who could make hay out of anything you throw at em would you go with the most popular devices in the world branded google, apple and Samsung or would you try and get the relatively unpopular outside of China huawei devices?
  I’m not saying they’re not good phones, just that they’re not impossible to hack and managed to avoid it by being too small a target for anyone to do the work overcoming the differences between them and other android devices.
I have a newer Xiaomi, wish I got the P60 Pro but it was too expensive...
i have a huawei "honor" i dont give a fuck for handy stats so i can not tell you much about that (works like every other) the one difference i noticed is that you can not use "whats app - desktop application".. with it.
which i find great , as it smells like a annoyed Mark Zuckerberg.

They still can't sell their phones outside of China. Cause they don't have access to google play services.

Otherwise its still a considerable achievement as those chips can be sold to other Chinese phone manufacturers

What? There are Huawei brand shops and service salons in Poland for example, they sell phones.
I'm sorry why do you think this?
Xiaomi has 11% of globalk market share up from 4% in 2018? Apple has 33% global share for reference.
Oppo, Vivo and Huawei share another 14% between them. Bringing China's market share in the global phone market up to 25%.
People don't give a shit about whether it has Google Play or not. It has an appstore with content on it, they're fine with it as long as they have access to other apps that do what they want.
- Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo phones have Google Play outside of China.
There are more countries in the world than the US and China.
no google spyware.
That's a positive not a downside.
lmao there are literally Huawei phones for sale in my country, what are you talking about?
They're pretty popular over here, second biggest brand behind Samsung
They are still sold in Germany, however the OS is a clone of Android without any Google services. From my observing at the... electronics store phone display, you can download these apps pretty easily from the inbuilt app store.
As far as I know they're quite popular in Palestine.

TSMC is making 2nm chips.

No one disputes that TSMIC is the leading sc foundry. Its the reason why the US is interested in Taiwan after all.
SMIC is able to produce 7nm despite the US applied pressure on ASML a few years ahead of predictions
- 5nm next year.
- Damn, almost like every international conflict boils down to someone getting filthy rich off some means of production in the area?
The T in TSMC stands for Tamerican. Also geez I wonder where all their engineers are going.

lmao took you two tries to spam this.