'They quit after a few hours': Farmers admit they can't find American workers
'They quit after a few hours': Farmers admit they can't find American workers
Maybe these morons should stop voting to remove their employees. Too smart for these MAGAts.
No no no, they'll vote for the GOP again, but hope they'll force inmates or homeless people to work the fields.
I'm certain that when they say MAGA, they mean bring back slavery.
I hope the inmates and/or indigent perform plenty of malicious compliance if this happens.
Don't you guys have forced prison labour? That ought to do the trick. You can even employ Moore people that way because you need guards and fences, gps tracking on the volunteered workers and all that.
You mean slavery?
Its truly incredible.
Their response will just be to fold, to literally sell the farm, and also at the same time never even be cognizant of the fact that they got exactly what they voted for, that Trump repeatedly said he was going to do exactly this, that lefties screamed about Project 2025 and the resounding response was basically 'pff, he's just bluffing,' and then making up a fan fiction version of what Dear Leader will actually do.
They're just gonna revert back to the 'no one wants to work' mantra untill we just literally put our incarcerated prisoners to work in the fields, going full circle all the way back to slavery.
These idiots didn't even realize how dependant they were on so many massive subsidy programs untill they poofed out of existence, again, 100% in line with Trump's platform.
Has any nation in history fucking autolobotomized as hard and as fast as we have?
Literally the world's sole super power 20/30 years ago, and in a single generation we have destroyed ourselves in almost every way possible, short of just nuking ourselves.
Has any nation in history fucking autolobotomized as hard and as fast as we have?
Well, the Khmer Rouge killed everybody who wore glasses because they were "intellectuals," China killed millions trying to force city kids to become farmers during the Cultural Revolution, and I'm pretty sure other autocratic totalitarian governments have fucked themselves in similar ways. Usually when societies become illiberal, people with brains are the first to be put up against the proverbial wall.
Just to add a point - if the farmers do end up folding and selling off, who's going to buy the land? My money would be on large corpos.
they tried it with prisoners already, they arnt doing it because they are already in jail, why work when you have all the ameneties provided for you, and it barely affects your sentence.
I wouldn't mind being a crop worker...provided I get at least minimum wage, breaks, healthcare, and reasonable quotas that ensure my wellbeing.
...crickets...
I've done a lot of seasonal field scale farm work, mostly in Europe - it can be extremely hard work. Couldn't do it now, you have to be pretty fit.
Which probably means that it would have to pay significantly above minimum wage. But, farmers were getting that labour for below minimum wage because they had the luck to be able to use workers who had no other options.
Nobody is going to work for slave wages and slavery conditions. Raise wages! Improve working conditions! That's the point of the whole Trump immigration policies you dumbass!
It is indeed baffling that immigrants worked all this time for slave wages under slavery conditions. USA is full of people taking advantage of others. It is not just Trump, it is the 50% of the population that is anti-social psychopathic sociopath.
it is not anywhere near baffling. it is an example of exactly how disgusting and terrible capitalism is. these times should be moving people radically left.
For real. In America being a psychopath is rewarded with money. And what's worse is that there is something very dark and heartless happening that seems to have a hold of not just the government but the people as well. Like it's now becoming known at least slightly, that America is not the image it branded itself as and that the people here are very much being manipulated socially and society is being orchestrated to be something that is not for humanity but instead for an ideology that feels like the essence of evil.
We should be realizing our nation isn't for humanity. It's all strictly business, and "the game" of conquering life and existence. And anything that gets in the way is the enemy.
As citizens here we aren't special. They can do the same things they do to other countries to us. We can become the middle east warzone. The only reason they don't do it inside the nation bluntly is because then it would show their true colors. So what they do is manipulate and divide the citizens over simple things and watch the citizens destroy themselves. The same geopolitical methods they use to overthrow countries they use here.
Capitalism
This is what people don't understand.
Yes, the work is hard, but good old Americans will do the work if they are paid.
No pay, no work.
You got three sentences correct.
The prices for grocery shopping are much higher in the US than in Germany (30% to 100% higher for unprocessed, healthy food). Yes, we also have immigration workers, but their status is legal and they get the official minimum wage.
It’s not that the US can’t afford to lower prices without illegals, they just want to maximise profit.
https://livingcost.org/cost/germany/united-states (You need to scroll down to the grocery part)
not to mention, the fuckery around shrinkflation/cheapflation. many other products like oral care is heavily shrinkflationed.
To be fair, in Germany a lot of food is imported from other countries that have different labor protections, so Spanish tomatoes could have different conditions. Of course Aldi and Lidl have popularized super efficient supply chains that help keeping prices low (and AFAIK they pay reasonable salaries).
You might want to let Trump know that these are his objectives. I don’t think he’s aware that he’s supposed to strengthen OSHA and fight for higher wages.
he already gave the response to people complaining" you voted for what i cammpaigned on, deal with it"-paraphased trump exact words.
get ready for 300-400% inflation on food
It's not inflation if that is actually how much it always should have cost. Our food is too cheap and full of shit.
That would be unpleasant, yes, and would require further efforts to minimize the consequences for those with low incomes (for instance, expansion of food subsidies, which yes would require even more taxation of those with wealth), however, if food prices aren't as high as that now because of near slavery conditions, then there's probably no ethical way to avoid it.
That’s the point of the whole Trump immigration policies you dumbass!
Is it? Why would you think that.
even if they did all that, its pretty back breaking work, you will your back or joints will be destroyed in the 30s, thats why also people dont stay in the trades that long either. disc disease from wear, is pretty hard to treat.
Which means the pay has to rise even more.
My guess is that this is a Peter Thiel move and robot companies are almost ready to deploy their farm helpers.
Which raises prices, while wages won't be
So ... Pay the Americans more. That is why they are leaving, my farming friends. It really is that simple.
Yup. I worked a terribly hazardous job that will work you to death at asphalt plants for a couple of years and absolutely only did it for six figure pay in California. Worst people I have ever worked around. Most were dumber than the rocks in aggregate but they always show up, are great at driving in circles, and gossiping far worse than a group of little girls.
You mean that the job isn't worth what you pay to do. They always pretend it isn't the money. But of course its the money. If I'm going to work my ass off I expect better pay. Those immigrants were working their ass off for minimum wage and the farmers knew they were exploiting them.
Literally everything in America is about how much money you have, but God forbid you ask an employer how much they're going to pay you. Because at your job what really matters is FAMILY. It's like, give me a fucking break.
Does Vin Diesel own a farm?
Any pretty much any physical job comes with copious risks to your body and health, yet these types of employers typically don't pay for employee health plans nor do they pay enough for employees to comfortably afford their own. Why would anybody want to risk severing a finger, breaking a leg, getting bitten by a dangerous snake, a nail to the hand, etc if they don't have to, especially knowing they can't afford the treatment and it could lead to lifelong pain and disability?
ICE facilities are currently overflowing. ICE prisoners will simply be leased out as farm labor.
These red voting MAGA fucks were receiving grants to hire labor and they claim socialism is bad. I have zero sympathy for their problems and this is another classic FAFO situation.
Yes but if the farm work doesn't get done you are looking at the next thing which will be the great American famine, which I expect somewhere this summer. If the US food production falters and importing food is made very expensive though tarriffs, Americans are not going to have enough food.
It's going to be like post revolutionary China in so many ways.
they claim socialism is bad
They mean compassion for the out-groups.
This is how Trump will defend recreating slavery adjacent to the prison system slavery.
He will claim there is no choice.
will?
it already happened.
he said he'll exempt some industries from ice raids. those who work well be even more desperate, and the bosses will be able to call ICE to kidnap whichever worker isn't performing as desired. under those conditions it might as well be slavery without the actual ownership.
Damn freeloading immigrants, staying at home and stealing all our jobs
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They promised JJ 100,000 a year to hire illegals and whatever other farm subsidies AND his whole family is on Medicaid. Is he literally that bad at living off farming, rather than welfare, or is he also committing fraud?
Why is a welfare queen (by the original definition) voting Republican
Around the 1990’s it became okay to be greedy in America, and okay to complain about what you don’t have. Empathy in the US has fallen off considerably over the years.
As to how they’re on medicaid, farms almost always miraculously have a loss of a few hundred dollars each year, so farmers tend to qualify. When you’re used to quietly having healthcare paid for by the government, you can vote for the hate party until that changes. Every republican knows they’re not the problem, much as no raindrop blames itself for a flood.
The phrase “The Surely Exception” applies here as it does to abortion, they were sure any cuts would not affect them. One benefit of the buffoonery of trump is they are not smart enough to protect their voters.
Well yeah. Turns out people who aren't in fear of being deported won't work for a fraction of minimum wage paid under the table.
I mean, it's not so much the fear of deportation so much as the fact that lower wages go farther in Mexico. Most Mexicans who illegally immigrate do so simply because it makes economic sense. If the wages were so low that it didn't make economic sense to them, then they would simply return to Mexico voluntarily.
Is it still Mexicans that come over or has it changed to people from even poorer countries like Venezuela or Honduras?
You kind of lose that economic advantage when you're not living in Mexico anymore. Plus a lot of people that come here don't have a life to go back to and likely sunk everything they had into getting here.
work for a fraction of minimum wage paid under the table.
The real irony here is that a lot of immigrant workers were here on legitimate visas, in fact a huge portion of the "illegal" immigrants who the Trump administration has deported were here on legit visas that he wantonly revoked, and were therefore paying taxes on the shite wages they were being paid. Taxes that the U.S. is now no longer collecting. Anyone wanna take bets on the deficit increase under Trump?
What's that? Southern states running on cheap labour can't cope with the loss of that labour? Where have we heard that before?
Fool me once and all that, but they actually voted for it this time round...
It's almost as if immigrants are a big source of exploitable labor that keeps the wheels of capitalism turning. Who would've thought?
They'll start calling to use prison labor soon enough. Prisons are commercial facilities anyway and could use some cash. And there are more African American in prison proportionally so that's a bonus for MAGA. Police will get their cut for putting more people in prison. That way the new racist slave labor gets established.
That is already happening at scale
That's definitely the plan, and they'll be using private, for-profit prison companies. One is a facility in Louisiana that has been closed twice due to abuse and torture of inmates, and has been reopened as an ICE facility they've been stashing the students arrested for pro-Palestinian protests there. The Columbia student who just got released was being held there.
They are also building a 30,000 bed facility at Guantanamo Bay. The $250 million dollar contract has been awarded, and it's underway. For context, the average maximum security prison hold 800-1200 people, with the largest in Angola, LA holding about 8400. So this new facility is nearly 4 times larger than the largest prison, which is already several times larger than average. Clearly, they intend to house MANY people there.
It's my belief that they will eventually take the position that if you can't stay actively employed (due to AI, robotics, automation, discrimination, etc.) and require the help of the government to survive, then they will house and feed you in exchange for renting you out as slave labor. That way, they can say they solved the homeless problems, even though all they did was turn them into slaves.
And the MAGA followers will go along with it, happy that the "parasites" are being forced to work. Besides, they've been hoping for slavery to return since 1865. The only legal slavery in America is prison labor, and like MAGA always does, they intend to exploit the shit out of that Amendment.
This is part of the plan. Small farms will be run out of business and then bought for a low price and consolidated by mega farms.
Big Agriculture wants this and lobbies for it to happen.
Isn't it a confession that he wittingly employs undocumented migrants and isn't it illegal?
Hard to say since a lot of immigrants with legal status have been kidnapped and trafficked out of country.
Isn’t it a confession that he wittingly employs undocumented migrants and isn’t it illegal?
They stopped even trying to maintain that lie decades ago. 20 years ago the paper had an article with a local farmer vocally declaring “We can’t afford to hire legal migrant labor. Too much regulation. They make us provide toilets and pay minimum wage.”
I wasn’t surprised that farmers exploited migrants. I was surprised that it was so common that the farmer felt safe having his name and picture next to a quote in a regional newspaper declaring, “Of course I break federal laws.”
A lot, but it doesn't look like the most, does it?
Repeat with me, class: There are no bad jobs, only bad conditions
No shit jobs only shit wages.
There are people who literally shovel congealed fat out of sewers, that's definitely a shit job.
They get paid a ridiculous amount though.
No this can only be spoken by those in profound ignorance or utter stupidity. There are bad jobs. Go look up sewage cleaner in India. No amount of money is worth that. There will always be shit jobs.
Kind of a bad argument. "Look up sewage cleaner in India" implies that there are sewage cleaners elsewhere with better jobs. Making the problem with being a sewage cleaner in India a bad condition.
Ironically I agree with you. Some jobs are way better than others, making some jobs bad and some good. A garbage man will always be a worse job than an ice cream taste tester barring absurd caveats. it's just funny to me that your argument explicitly implies a problem with job conditions.
Go look up sewage cleaner in India. No amount of money is worth that.
That's just untrue. There is definitely some amount of money worth it.
*can’t find american workers willing to work for what they’re offering.
pay more get more.
You'll still have trouble finding people. Picking crops fucking sucks.
Pay even more. Just shows you the extend of the exploitation.
It's bothering me that the cursive is not properly centered.
At least they are removing all those gang members from the fields
Maybe offer better compensation if you can't find workers. No one wants to bust their ass all day for a shit wage. Unless they're desperate.
day for a shit wage.
Underpaying Immigrants and Outsourcing both tech and design to China has rightfully fucked us. Smarter every day tried to make an OK grill brush here, it has to be $75.
I don't like either of the answers the administration is providing to these problems (nor do I think they're legitimately trying to solve them), But we're going to dead end if we don't do something about it.
Tax the rich, pay generous wages, focus on local manufacturing, fix pricing and force market competition.
Unless the system doesn’t oversee them, because then the standards of the system don’t apply to them, and they can be exploited.
Farmers can go fuck themselves for doing modern day slavery exploitation.
Oh, your profits were based on how little you can pay your employees? HOW ABOUT YOU SUCK MY FUCKING DICK.
"You reap what you sow" originates from farming wisdom. Just putting that out there.
It's weird to think the agricultural workers, who can't vote and don't have legal status and are often living on subsistence wages, deserve to be snatched off the street and fed into a concentration camp system in order to deprive a few agricultural wholesalers of their profit margins.
I don't see that as reaping what you sow at all. Fascism does not fall heaviest on the fascists.
Supporters of facism and their narcissism. Specifically, they use their privilige to moan about their own challenges, seemingly without much thought for those taken into concentration camps. They will only ever understand what hurts them.
This is all designed to drive the family farm out of business and make land cheap.
Which is why billionaires have already been buying farmland and have been for years.
Slave labor, monitored by drones with AI supported facial recognition.
Time for Mexico to pump up its own agriculture to supply the goods that will be needed on the other side of the fence. Labor is plenty now.
Mexican farm produce at American farm prices. That's how capitalism works, right?
Higher than American farm prices, what with the tarrifs
Mexico and Canada have been investing in agricultural infrastructure for decades now. The only reason that the U.S. farmer can compete is due to shenanigans in import requirements. Imports are held to a much higher standard than domestic production. It's why the majority of foodborne outbreaks are from American production.
American farmers have been conditioned to rely on cheap labor and expensive equipment. There's been only been minor infrastructure investment since the 1970's.
Without government subsidies and cheap labor, the majority of the farmers business models in the us is not sustainable.
The idea is so badly implemented... you have to raise back Unions and decent salaries, what they expecting is that actual born americans will do the same job for the same shit money that desperate migrants who have absolutely nothing.
So in essence they want the new slaves to be US born, yeah fuck that.
Society needs more unions period.
I'm a medical student applying for residency this year, and the top program I'm interested in is at the top of my list partially because the residents have a union.
Fucking right, unions are for the people and any damn company that hates them is against giving people a working wage that gives them a life. PERIOD Fuck anti-union politicians! Power to the people!
new slaves to be US born
Prison labor. And what minority is overrepresented in prison?
Jails...
How would the couple, who had no health insurance, pay for their daughter’s care if the administration and Congress gutted Medicaid?
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I thought that Covid would have been enough of a trial run for that.
At least in my country it was that. You know, it was Covid, with the highest unemployment rate since quite a long time, and farmers ran nation-wide ads looking for workers. They increased the pay sometimes up to 2-3x. They promised housing in nice hotels. And still, nobody wanted to do the job and that year there was just no strawberries on the shelves.
The only way working as a farm hand makes sense is if:
So much of the argumentation around this topic sounds the south arguing for slavery except it's liberals arguing for exploitative labor.
Yes but no. These people should be allowed in to work, legally and with workers protections. Not exploited.
Yep, forcing businesses to actually pay market rate for labour is something of an upside.
Republicans are not "liberals", no matter how much you Tankies claim that they are. They are the very definition of Fascist.
OP meant liberal Democrats.
Almost like...
Importing workers to make 16.84/hr. Just what American is going to accept that kind of wage when the boss is getting grants of hundreds of thousands of dollars?
The immigrant would have to work 11,876 hours to earn the 200k handout that the boss gets for hiring him seasonally for two years. How is this sustainable? Are we all going to be working to subsidize farmers by 100k/year to hire a single foreign farmhand?
Not to mention the program for that grant has only 141 members... it just doesn't make sense.
OK, so, I live in farm country and there's some problems with what your saying. 1. It's actually good pay. In fact some farmers have tried raising the pay to attract more workers, it rarely works. Farms are in the middle of nowhere. There's no city. MAYBE there's a post office and a store that sells exclusively Croation gass station fare. MAYBE. It's temporary work. You get a few months pay. So. Remote, physically demanding, and temporary. That's what makes it a ''no thanks'' job for every American. We live hand to mouth, we live in a stack of cards that requires constant payments. That's not a problem in Latin America for the most part, they live hand to mouth but they can save up money, they are maxed out on payments and debt, they just throw extra money in a jar and only live of what they really really need. So working a few months in the US, then Canada, then Mexico, it's OK. That's why they're called seasonal farm workers. When you close to boarders you trap them out of their job and create insane problems. I don't know why Americans can't figure out how the food gets to the Walmart, but they have been failing up grasp this for a long ass time.
You're not gaslighting anyone into thinking $17 an hour is worth much of anything. What the fuck does "some farmers have tried raising the pay to attract more workers, it rarely works" mean?? Oh no, farms are paying more, better not work there. Are you retarded? You don't see rednecks passing up oilfield work because it's out in the middle of nowhere. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the six figure paychecks those jobs have. Nope. Hell, I bet if you dropped their pay to $17 an hour, every roughneck in the field would sprint as fast as they could over to thank you personally. What a fuckin genius idea.
It makes plenty of sense when you realize that grift and sensationalism were the goals all along
The system has been set up to extract as much wealth from the workers while offering the thin illusion of ultimate freedom to distract from said extraction.
In a place where local, legal help was nearly impossible to keep<' the Post is reporting before adding, "But then Trump,
At least three typo mistakes in this article. The degree of publish-fast-don't-edit in our "journalism" is off the scale. I hate it.
Anyway, this is what you voted for, asshole.
Stupid cunts.
And yet they wont change their political positions. Theyd much rather go broke.
Just buy a Musk-branded, doge- approved, exploding slave neck collar and perimeter fence kit. Keeps your child employees motivated, on-task, on-location.
get dog barking e-collars. When the kids beg for humane working conditions, they'll be shocked into getting back to fucking work.
Proles hate this one easy productivity hack, the results will shock you!
Not too long ago, historically speaking, kids were in coal mines, chimney sweeps, etc
Finding new and different applications for the Musk RTO technology!
Why don't these farmers pay more to AMERICAN 🦅🇺🇸 citizens 🤬
Do they not understand demand and supply principle of capitalism?
They demanded the freedom to treat women and minorities as subhuman, and Trump supplied them with a government that said "yes, that's exactly what we'll do, and we won't even bother to pretend otherwise"
Do they not understand demand and supply principle of capitalism?
Yes, they do. It's why they voted for Trump, so they don't have to. What they want is to be able to explot cheap labor sans consequences and keep all the profits, not paying any taxes.
Currently some hicccups along the way to thier nirvana, which is why they're complaining and waiting for the fix.
They wanted Trump to only scare the workers, not actually deport them?
They wanted him to gasp break his election promise?
You DONT understand! All he Wanted was to Bully GAY Kids! He NEVER thought HIS Immigrant Workers who were STRAIGHT would be DEPORTED too EVEN THOUGH Trump promised to do that! STOP being SO Divisive you STUPID LIBRUL COMMIES!
-Chuck Schumer and the DNC!
What a Rollercoaster ride of a comment... fuck politicians in the US. This is the downfall of our society
The leopard of eating faces is going to become obese after the end of this year
The leopard is already on a triple bypass. By the end of the year, if it keeps going like this, they will be doing a sleeve gastrectomy.
Awww. That sucks. Your prolonged suffering as your entire lifes work slowly collapses around you, crops dying and cattle being sold in order to try and prop up what little you have left as you scream at everything around you....
Oh it's going to be so fucking entertaining.
capitalism suddenly stops believing in the supply demand graph once coercion is off the table
Isn't $7/hr minimum wage? That's slave conditions as well.
Let's think about this. If you work 8 hours under the hot sun with little breaks, you'll get $56 and that's before taxes. It's insane. That's probably not even what they're paying them.
remind me of the post after brexit
Lol. What a clownshow. You voted for this, morons. Decisions have consequences, even/ especially if it's to sit out and do nothing, and yes, im now talking about the other group of idiots.
Absolutely. But I’m beginning to think there weren’t as many sit-outs as certain precincts would have us believe.
Everywhere there's lots of leopards
Leading leopard lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their leopard wives
Clutching forks and knives
To eat MAGA faces!
jaguars, lions, tigers and hyena are being shipped into help eating faces.
(to the tune of "Piggies" by The Beatles if anyone didn't pick up on it)
If we all have to get fucked over, I'm definitely gonna laugh at the morons who chose this and will suffer worse than me
I’m surprised that they haven’t considered using prison labour yet.
It is also ironic that people in the US criticize alleged slavery in other countries but ignore their agricultural economy
I'm pretty sure parts the US are actively using prison labor already. It varies by state, but I remember reading about one state where they were basically renting out prisoners to companies. I think they used the term "hiring", but the money the company paid didn't go to the inmate... The prison system has been one of the larger atrocities in the US for a while now.
Prisoners make something like a quarter an hour.
"THEY TUK URR JERBS!!!!"
Morons
Way to screw all of us over your jingoism
I heard this story during his last administration. Assclowns never learn.
What’s funny is the old idea that book nerds know things but farmers do things is a source of pride for farmers.
The reality is that farmers are just nerds also.
Yet they think of themselves as something else, like mythical strong men beasts who feed the rest of us useless folks.
The real strong men are the very immigrants that do the literal toiling while the farmers are basically like mini CEOs by comparison
Their rejection of the very nerdiness thst gives them their mystique is ironic
They are smart enough to turn land into food
But not smart enough to realize how they actually do it
Listen up, MAGAt American farmer:
You better keep your prices low, or I won't buy as much American food!
Good! No exploiters should be able to sustain their practices.
This called having the day you voted for
No-one want to be exploited any more!
Question: Are you getting great already?
Actually feeling far less great than any time in my fairly long life.
Wow. So much ignorant hate here, as always in the enlightened misinformation age.
Most farms aren't corporations. In America for example more than 80% of farmers are smalltime. They don't dictate their profits or the wages they can afford to pay, or influence the prices of their crops or all the crap they have to buy to do farming. A typical American farmer makes $40-50k a year, and every year they risk going into the red or bankruptcy because of fluctuating prices. I really don't know why anybody in their right mind would keep farming. Family tradition or whatever - apparently it's "in their blood".
As always, a lot of people here have jumped right onto the binary world tailgate, using their vast 3-second attention spans to make a value judgement about who wears the black and white hats in the situation and who's evil, then they thumb-type a few decisive words of irrefutable justice wisdom - in this case about evil farmers treating people like slaves.
It's great that Lemmy is non-corporate and part of the fediverse, but after 7 or 8 months here I'm more and more developing the opinion that it's just another kneejerk ignorance shithole on the social media superhighwqy. Scroll on, brave justice warriors, scroll on! And enjoy your lunch.
False. Median farm family incomes are $97,984 in 2023 while the median family income for the country was $80k. "In 2023, the median U.S. farm household had $1,439,138 in wealth" while the median US family net wealth was $192,000. Farmers on average are far better off than the average American. Note that corporate farm incomes are NOT included in these figures.
Sources: https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-economy/farm-household-well-being/income-and-wealth-in-context https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/files/scf23.pdf (page 11)
That sounds like the value of the land and equipment is included as wealth.
For one thing, we're clearly getting our stats from different sources. For another, "household" commonly means one or two people in an urban setting and 5 or more in a farm family. So I would actually hope their incomes are above median. In any case, I srsly doubt that the people here bothered to look up anything before lighting torches and grabbing pitchforks, which was my point.
These guys are certainly the landlords of our time
When bunker people run the country, the country becomes a bunker.
Robots will take over?
cylons will take over, after they go all skynet on humans.
May not have choice in the coming years.
Well this is good
You can't expect a good end for the net negative incentives all the collectivist immigrant policies created during this time. Here is the backlash.
Ironic for people that keep saying to have empathy for others, and yet everything they do keeps increasing human suffering.
Great idea guys
Yeah let's allow everyone to enter the country. Where will they work, how will they provide for themselves? What do you say? Not our problem now!
Ah but y'all knew the incentive was already there. People desperate for work and people in need of cheap labor go hand in hand
An industry can't be based on cheap exploited labor just like that
Now the guys who you hate have to undo what you did
Now they need to remove the incentive on why people come to the US in the first place and the ones related to companies not having actual consequences to hiring illegal inmigrants
Shit will get expensive? Sure, but it will be worth it right?
People will need to work more? Of course, every poor citizen of the us usually has to work their ass of. But now much more
The cheap food and goods festival over? Well, about time
Good thing mossad infiltrated USA, otherwise it would be too overpowered.
Good thing mossad infiltrated USA, otherwise it would be too overpowered.
Oh boy, way to seriously fuck yourself from every conceivable angle, smart guys. Sumo wrestler lookin leopards after this one.
Add that any products grown for trade are sitting unwanted in fields, or for aid rotting in warehouses because the government canceled the contracts for them. Food is often held in special warehouses where the oxygen is pumped out, but there aren't enough of those to hold all the excess that was expected to be sent elsewhere
It's a colossal mess, with an incredible amount of waste
Yes. Yes, he is.
That's just good old fashioned republican efficiency. These boys better get their bootstraps and figure out which conglomerate they're gonna sell the farm to.
At least during Covid the farms were transporting food to churches/communities at lower prices. They literally have no one now to pick up the produce. Waiting on farms to start pick your own systems like blueberry farms.
One more: China puts tariffs on agricultural products specifically, because they know what they're doing.
Correction: every country has agricultural tarrifs to protect local farmers, except in extreme scenarios where populations are being starved or cannot produce food by themselves.
This is just a gift for big farm.