U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) waiting outside unmarked van
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) waiting outside unmarked van
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Send this to your MAGA relatives with the caption "these guys good or bad?" and no additional context.
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Seem to be all white, obviously good
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how does no one shoot them
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Someone needs to walk by with the Vanilla Ice "Ice Ice Baby" song playing.
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I am curious to see how many incidentscome out where there are of ACTUAL kidnappings that happen because some geniuses get the idea to just go grab some people and throw them in a van while dressing up like these ICE idiots.
You want to give gangs a free pass to grab random people or rivals off the street? Make your "official govt activity" look like gang activity.
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It may already be happening in immigrant communities. What are their families going to do - report it to the cops?
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If you saw this on the street wouldn't you call the cops? I fucking would. From somewhere on the far side of the van, well out of their line of sight.
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Pfft, that's target practice
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Looks like four domestic terrorists.
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That's because they are.
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Not even remotely hyperbolic here, I 100% would assume they’re randos gang members or doing criminality attempting to kidnap then murder me, and I’d fight back accordingly. Not even a badge on a neck chain or belt clip jfc covered head to toe
Just the same as if a mugging becomes “get into the van” no you fucking shouldn’t because their goals are now no longer your property, but now your life
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Never let the assailant take you to the secondary location.
Urban self defense classes have been teaching this since the 1970s, at least.
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It would be a real shame if people started dousing these fascist fucks with bright red hair dye so that they can be identified after they remove their fucking fash masks.
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There are some pepper sprays that are mixed with red difficult-to-remove dye for the purpose of identifying those involved in an incident.
Legal in California!
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Or something more flammable, perhaps
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These are guys who some want to be doxed for sounds their job.
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How can we prosecute the fascists if we don't know who they are?
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Photoshop some darker skin on them and post them on some conservative site and see the difference in reactions.
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How does anyone know they're ICE? what if six guys in masks showed up and threw these guys in an unmarked van and says THEY'RE ICE?
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They aren't ICE. There's not enough ICE agents for the job. At BEST, they are bounty hunters deputized by ICE and given $1k for each brown person they bring in.
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You're right. And if you feel threatened, you could just shoot them. "Had no idea they were cops. They hid their faces like gang members."
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Some put "MS 13" in power point text boxes on their shirts already.
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Worth a shot.
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Or four.
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I would call it into 911 and report suspicious activity
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If they are this obvious, I'd see if I could get a flash mob of civilians with phone cameras.
Either they move, or if action goes down, there's going to be a big protest soon.
Also we'll know who they took.
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They are terrorists.
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12 gauge slugs is the answer here.
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What is Blue Flannel McWidestance holding? A hammer? Pry bar? Cattle prod? What the fuck?
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It looks like an extendable baton, for breaking glass or beating innocent people.
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No badges, no uniforms, driving unmarked vehicles and wearing masks? Those are obviously kidnappers, Your Honor.
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"That's why my client acted reasonably and dare I say heroically, when they saw these masked men dragging the witness into an unmarked vehicle, drew their legally carried sidearm, and engaged these individuals until they were no longer a threat."
Why hasn't this happened yet?!
This country should never be safe for predators who want to throw people into vans.
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Lookin' like a group of pedos handing out "free candy."
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Pedophiles and hebephiles are probably having a field day with this new immigration policy. Apparently you can just snatch people off the street while saying the magic words "I'm with law enforcement" and no consequences will come of it.
Would not be surprised to learn down the road that dozens of people have been kidnapped and are being held somewhere other than an El Salvadorian gulag having who knows what done to them.
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Someone should meme this up as a bunch of dudes about to get jumped by Spiderman.
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*Allegedly ICE
Those could totally just be plain old kidnappers
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Pretty sure those are just traffickers.
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Legal Modern Mafia.
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Cowards! If they truly believe what they're doing is right and lawful, why do they need to be so covered up?
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Doing the right thing isnt always safe... Dont get me wrong, this antiimmigration thing is disgusting, but them covering up is not a good indicator of shittiness.
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Then cover your face, people have families, I get it. But you better be wearing a badge or something identifying you as who you are. Because as far as the general public is concerned, this is just a photo of four kidnappers waiting in public.
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It is when they're acting as a police force.
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they look like the guys you'd fight in Marvel's Spider-Man
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Masked, no badge. That's a good way to get yourself shot.
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No uniform, just random street clothes. I'm glad I don't live in the USA. The assumption here is they are criminals and threatening my life
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Everyone should start wearing facemasks.
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Oh man! This should be the strategy. Have a mib of ppl all show up dressed like this. They won't know who's who.
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Like the Spider-Man meme.
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Cowards. Fucking cowardly bullies with their truncheons.
And if the dude on the right wouldn't go down and stay down with one shove to the chest, I'll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.
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Yeah, I'm looking at these guys in their loose flannel, and thinking I got all sorts of stuff to grab onto and throw these skinny little punks around. I could slam that guy on the right against his car at least three times before he even realizes he's getting the shit kicked out of him. Losers.
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So if we just started surrounding and fucking them up, is that still assault on an officer, or just good old fashion assault? Asking for a friend.
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There is absolutely no proof that these people are ICE, or any other agents of the state. Do not assume masked strangers throwing people in vehicles are law enforcement. Especially if they don't identify themselves.
We all need to stop making this assumption, and to start encouraging others to also not make this assumption.
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I get what you mean. But, materially, there is not much of a difference. You should absolutely do everything in your power to stop or resist them.
They are Nazis with a badge or Nazis without a badge. That badge doesn't change what should be done to them by anyone that sees them. They should not feel safe getting out of their van. There are more of us. Get organized and be ready to be that 2nd or 3rd or 4th random stranger that is brave enough to standup to them.
Nazi's aren't brave. They are wimpy little losers. That's why they are Nazis. Don't let them feel safe anywhere they go.
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My favorite so far is the people who follow these fuckers around with megaphones and broadcast the rights people have when dealing with ICE, numbers of local lawyers and advocates, and other instructions to help people either avoid the interaction or at least have a fighting chance to due process if they are detained.
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Absolutely. They should be afraid to get out of their van. They should be treated as if they are wearing a Nazi uniform.
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What would be better is if, when people were being kidnapped by these brownshirts-at-home, the bystanders started beating these kidnappers to a bloody, gelatinous pulp. That way, the street sweepers could come and gently push their mouldering viscera where they belong: the gutter.
Remember: there is no evidence that these people have the force of law behind them. Citizens should not allow others to be kidnapped in broad daylight.
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are you implying anyone was making this assumption? any group of thugs could pretend to be ICE this way
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This looks like they just rounded up a bunch of proud boyz, put masks on them, gave them a van and told them to go harass immigrant children.
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I mean... That's pretty much what they did.
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Do you work in ICE Human Resources? How do you know their recruiting process so well? Trump is going to get mad that you divulged his secret super stable genius hiring process.
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“Looks like”
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Because it is the thing.
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I mean it really does look that way.....is there something about being a fascist that just fucks up your posture? All these guys and the tiki torch bros always end up having the same posture as those three little aliens from MIB.
I wonder if it's that the only thing that can lure them from constantly shit posting on 4chan is the opportunity to engage in state sanctioned hate crimes?
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yea their posture was indeed what made me think that way initially
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Two of them appear to be wearing sneakers with unprotected toes lol
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A handy guide to America:
Wearing a mask to prevent the spread of infection during a global pandemic? It's an excuse to hide your face, you literally cannot breate through it, and it's a symbol of leftist fascism.
Wearing a mask literally to hide your identity so you can physically accost and abduct anyone under the pretense of 'immigration authority' with zero need for due process so there are no repercussions when you are wrong? That's protecting your country.
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i am willing to bet that before the year is over, there will be people who cut mouth holes out of these types of masks to make it clear that they aren't wearing masks for public health reasons
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They don't look like law enforcement, you should probably open fire if they try and get onto your property.
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Why do they look like teenagers? Sad the youth is so susceptible to brainwashing
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"Hellooo, fellow teenagers!"
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
Some de-icing is in order
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Omg, they can't breathe, they are inhaling their own CO2 & toxic bacteria, they are probably dead already!!
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Brain dead? Dead inside? Soulless? Checks out.
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Good
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They wear masks for the same reason the Klansmen wore masks.
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New season of the handmaiden’s tale just dropped?
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Given what is currently happening in the US, I cannot help but ask myself: Does the police still respond when emergency calls come in reporting that several armed and masked men are dragging people into a van and kidnapping them?
That's a genuine question, and I don't know the answer. But hey, I don't know the answer to the question of how all this can be possible in a constitutional state either.
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In this situation, it can't be just one person. Several people need to call 911 with plate numbers and general descriptions.
"A bunch of people in masks waiting outside the court house. I think they have guns!"
If ICE has done their due diligence, they would have notified law enforcement that they are there in plain clothes. But methinks that these cosplayers wouldn't think to do that.
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How can you tell they're ICE? What if these are crafty immigrants pretending? What if another group of masked men showed up and put them in zip ties and threw them in a unmarked van? How could anyone know?
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Wait, that's how they're actually dressed? They just look like random people. The fact that they don't get shot more speaks a lot about how well behaved the people they are kidnapping are.
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They'd blend in a lot better if they didn't look like old western bandits about to rob a train with those masks.
Cowards. All of them. I hope they all get doxxed.
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https://icelist.info/
Got this from another lemmy user.
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Suede denim secret police.
Jello called it, decades ago.
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I think they look more like a bunch of thugs than normal people.
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Those are thugs, who were under qualified for mafia or even any respectable gang so they applied for the government job.
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It’s the masks. Their body language is softer than my hangover shit.
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They're also going after the population that are probably the unlikeliest to own firearms. That being said, if you're brown and not carrying a firearm and your "papers", you should probably change your habits. Fuck me, it's disgusting that this is the case in America.
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a picture is worth a thousand words. except staged ones like the twumph ear incident.
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that’s actually a mob of criminals. you see these dbags you need to call 911, especially if you are not an immigrant.
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Call in a potential bank robbery
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Looks like a violent riot to me.
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The reality is they are consistently informing local police that they are "conducting business in the area" and are plain clothes.
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for sure. make no mistake - the point of the call is not to get police help it’s to be a pain in the ass. It’s “agitprop”
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Fascism on the street level.
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These people are the new brown shirts
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No reasononable person would believe these are police. Not guilty.
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Crips to the Cops' Bloods.
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Looks like a group of shady men wearing masks intended to hide their faces around an unmarked van threatening civilians with weapons to me. Call the police, maybe hyperbolize it a bit. Make them either abandon their spot or waste their time justifying their existence to the police instead of whatever bullshit they're there to do.
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Are you sure it's not a group of protestors? Because then covering your face is illegal in some places now. Better call the cops to get those protestors back to the free speech zone.
BUT THIS IS STILL A TOTALLY NORMAL AND FINE DEMOCRACY, RIGHT CONSERVATIVES?
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Looks like a bunch of fascists committing state-sanctioned domestic terrorism.
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This is the correct answer.
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Fucking scum.
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It would be a shame if people started throwing eggs at them, a real shame.
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If these unidentifiable people tried to arrest you would you not be within your right to defend yourself with force?
Could you also not get a bunch of mates dress the same and disrupt all of their raids by claiming you’re the real ICE and they are just a group of random strangers
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If the law actually applied equally to everyone, both citizens and government thugs? Absolutely.
But we all know that's not how it works on the street or in the courts.
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The first time, yeah, I get you. If it happened a lot, though. They’d change their MO. Maybe wear some stylish Hugo Boss designed uniforms.
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But for real, why is all of this so shitty looking?
Every fascist state I can think of gave (relatively to the states wealth) a lot on paramilitary troops uniform image.
Even mafia or mere street gangs know they have to invest in some style.
USA should try like a foreign-exchange-presidents or something, then after a 6 month semester, boom - ICE gets designers threads, the troops can march, and all the Signal messaging is in Korean.
(Im not sarcastic about the question - why don't the ICE agents need to look "cool" & distinguished? Are they just some sort of in-between militia? Or is that actually all that & I just don't recognise it? They dress like poor students applying for their summer office job.)
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Two reasons. One, the fascists are shitty at their jobs. Like, genuinely shitty. The efficiency of fascism in general is nothing but propaganda, but the people in charge are pure, privileged, nowhere-to-fail-but-up, idiots.
Two, they're in a rush. You're absolutely correct - they're an in-between militia. The uniformity will come if they're given time to dig in their position, but right now, they are desperately expanding and solidifying their hold on the nation.
Their power is an illusion. They don't have the training, supplies, or leadership in place to actually control the country by force right now, so they're just throwing whatever they have out there to overwhelm the innocent while they work on dismantling the bureaucracy and redirecting our military and local LEO capabilities toward domestic oppression.
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Lemmy needs a new community: Cops or Criminals? Just pictures of thugs in SUVs & you have to guess whether they're a cartel hit squad or ICE.
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Criminal Cops or Criminals*
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So that people will learn which ones they can safely approach.
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Anybody else dressed like that in the street would be arrested.
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All I see are terrorists.
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All I see are a couple of MS13 members about to perform a kidnapping, better alert SWAT!
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The call is coming from inside the country.
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I'm pretty sure, in some states, You can shoot people looking like that.
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I actually just looked it up. In certain states, this falls under the "Stand Your Ground" law.
Defense of Others: State law permits the use of force, including deadly force, to defend another person. Non-deadly force is justified when a person reasonably believes it is necessary to protect someone from imminent unlawful force. Deadly force is justified to prevent imminent death, great bodily harm, or a "forcible felony" to the other person. Examples of forcible felonies include murder, robbery, and aggravated assault.
Immunity from Prosecution: A key feature of the Stand Your Ground law is potential immunity from criminal prosecution and civil lawsuits if the use of force is found to be legally justified. A defendant can request a pretrial hearing to determine if their actions were justified, potentially leading to dismissal of the case. The prosecution must provide clear and convincing evidence that the force was not justified.
Important Considerations: The force used must be proportional to the threat. Stand Your Ground does not apply if the person was engaged in unlawful activity or provoked the attack. Immunity also generally does not apply when using force against a law enforcement officer performing their duties.
Meaning if you see a bunch of masked men trying to abduct someone and they aren't identifying themselves as law enforcement, you can legally shoot them to defend the person being assaulted. You would also be immune from criminal prosecution for doing so.
You'd better be a great shot though. And you'd probably get killed. At minimum for sure you're getting arrested (and probably disappeared). But you are legally in the clear. And the news would be ALL over it. I'd like the TACO administration compete against Republican-state laws.
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If you're serious, you're wrong. But most people won't stop you.
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How have none of these guys gotten shot yet?
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These pussies get violent in courthouses and kindergartens.
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Optics and suppressors, line them these delusional useless eaters up!
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If I see this, I fully plan on asking them for their identification, if they refuse I'll call the police on them. Masked armed men menacingly hanging out wherever they are.
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Armed gunmen with mask are famous for not politely waiting for you to finish a phone call before putting you in a death camp or gunning you down.
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This is an excellent point, but if somebody doesn't stand up, it'll never get better. I'm a born citizen, and white dude, statistically I have a better chance than someone else. I saw CA is trying to pass a law not allowing these officers to wear masks. While they'll likely ignore it at first, simply record and call the police. Eventually they'll stop. Once they're exposed and can face consequences, most of the atrocious behavior will stop.
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We should play a game, cartel or cop!?
https://www.npr.org/2011/10/26/141727973/drug-violence-swamps-a-once-peaceful-mexican-city
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Man, those little bottles of water for each just got me, guess they get pretty parched being thuggy and masked! Wish I could see them try and drink from them with those masks on.
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Pathetic. Take off your masks, pussies. I wanna see the faces of the people who kidnap my friends.
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Flannel is the new brownshirt.
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Please no. I like my flannel.
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If ICE does to flannel what Hitler did to his mustache, I'm going to be livid.
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There goes my entire winter wear.
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Terrorism be like:
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They look like criminals with zero indication as to any authority. Not uniforms, no badges.
This nation needs to make it physically unsafe to be in such a state.
If those were medical masks it would be different: my buddy’s wife is immune compromised so he wears a mask when out and about as do I when we’re together. That ain’t this.
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How can anyone look at these people and say “they’re the good guys?” MAGA is insane and dangerous.
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Unmask and dox all these pathetic cowardly racist motherfuckers.
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It would be interesting to follow them. Find out where they live or where they go in their off time. Then call the ICE on them.
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And no one seems to do anything about it.
It's soooo easy to kidnap people in the US right now. Human trafficking rings never had it so easy.
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Walk up and join them. Wear a balaclava, carry a canvas bag with dollar signs on it. Caution: This plan may backfire if you're not white.
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That would be a video I would click.
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What if everyone started to dress exactly like that? Try and arrest someone then motherfuckers! Real life Spiderman meme ensues.
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They couldn't possibly look more "police officer in plain clothes" if they tried. Generic flannel shirt, generic blue jeans, generic black shoes, a cap, etc.
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PUBG-Look
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How do these guys not get shot more often? They look like regular dudes kidnapping someone. Well, I guess that's what it is, but serious, this baffles me.
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We used to have a word for people like this, what was it again, Ohh yeah, pussies.
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Slash their tires
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Those are a bunch of violent far right kidnapping terrorists. Treat them as such.
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Thugs
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Isn't there a particular Nazi paramilitary that dresses up exactly like that? Those guys that were on a U Haul?
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Patriot Front or whatever. Yeah, they look just as, if not even more dorky.
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Fucking pussies.
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I hope they keep up the masks and flannel and all that other heavy shit through the summer heatwaves we got coming up. They’ll need each other because I doubt anyone will help keep them cool
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No ceramic plates...
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Uncanny how the collectivist's mental dissonance shows through the cracks:
Cops are pigs
And they all should be dead
And all of them are bad
Unless I need them
To protect me from the state
The one I wish to give more and more power everytime over me
Lol
Lmao even
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Imagine ridiculing people because they expect cops to do their actual jobs, and protect and serve the citizens.
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ACAB
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