OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission
OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission to Create an AI That's Stealing Its Job, Which Is Blatantly Hypocritical Since That's Exactly What It Did to Human Artists
Says the company that literally crawled the Internet without anyone’s permission to train their damn model.
Rules for thee, not for me.
That photo-illustration is hilarious!
The moment I saw that illustration, I was, like, "Yes. This is the article I'm going with." xD
I thought that was something on my smartphone screen at first. 😅
Made by Deepseek
Only America can steal data appearently. Everyone else is a terrorist.
Not ordinary Americans. That's piracy, which is a form of terrorism. Only the wealthiest asshole Americans can steal data.
People having hard time conceptually understanding America is a class class society and that pedons are in fact not "America"
President musk and Sam altman = america
Sunzu2 the pedon =/= America
Dude, "stealing data" is not the preferred nomenclature, "protecting your IP", please.
Look at what happened to Aaron Swartz.
Inconceivable.
Weird, because OpenAI used my work, without permission, to create an AI that stealing my job.
It's fine when we do it!
The bots stole our jobs, then the other bots stole the jobs from the first bots.
Cry me a river.
You're laughing? OpenAI's hard work is being stolen, and you're laughing?
There exists not, a violin small enough for this occasion.
We’re in sub-atomic volon sympathy territory now.
A volon is the up-quark subatomic violin particle for anyone who is unfamiliar.
"You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen!" -OpenAI 2025.
Do you want to go back to where I found you!? Unemployed!? In Greenland?!
won't someone please think of the shareholders?
this is the response I came for :D
Thanks I was looking for the world's smallest violin
🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
Oh, no Sam!!! Ohhhhh Nooooo!!! NOOOOOOOOO!
Somebody beat you at your own game and now you're going to get bailed out for it. Cry harder you pathetic piece of shit.
I mean, open is in their name. They shouldn't have dressed like that. They were asking for it.
"And there’s substantial evidence that what DeepSeek did here is they distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI models, and I don’t think OpenAI is very happy about this," Sacks explained.
What makes this even funnier is that A.I generated content isn't even copyrightable.
Someone I saw on YouTube asked, "How can you steal from someone named 'OpenAI'?"
But, DeepSeek wouldn't be able to make money without using OpenAI.
Same what OpenAI said about copyright material they used to train ChatGPT.
Felony contempt of business model
-> <-
If you zoom in on the line above, and I mean really zoom in you will see a violin small enough to express my level of sympathy.
Here's an entire chest filled to the brim with all the fucks I give:
Damn that must be a pain to drag around all that fucking loot
Oh noooo!
Anyway.
Before reading any articles concerning Deep Seek's origin, it took me awhile to realise that they probably stole the data and technology from Western AI developers. Developing a better AI and as open source that quickly is pretty much impossible. And everyone knows that CCP steal IP and technology from the West so it's unsurprising.
so because openAI stole their corpus of training info first, they get to call others thieves?
lol...
"It's only okay if western companies steal." duh!
You do realized that's based as hell right?
China steals from the west and uses it to improve their peoples lives instead of just squeezing them for every filthy penny possible?
You do understand that's a moral, ethical, and economic China W don't you?
Developing a better AI and as open source that quickly is pretty much impossible.
According to whom?
Awwwww diddums. Do you not like it when people steal your work to make money from it? That must be so difficult for you...
This is a "not the onion" level headline, holy shit
So? They can just steal it back 🤷♂️
There's a name for that. It's called "karma".
How ironic, right?
Oh cry me a river, DeepSeek is OpenSource, OpenAI (Which should be renamed to ClosedAI) isn't
DeepSeek is the more ethical AI toolkit for one to use, at least they're not pretentious
DeepSeek is Open Weight, as in weights are available*
Anything needed to actually train the model is as closed as ClosedAI is.
it's ok ChatGPT you can join us the unemployed
Lol. Lmao.
See, so when they steal from US, it’s fine. But when someone steals from THEM, suddenly we have a problem 🖕
Little known rule of society: it's OK to steal from people poorer than you.
That's the free market at work baby. Regs for thee but not for mee.
The seas be a harsh mistress, here take this!
I don't believe any of these assholes about anything tbh.
Sounds like it's fair game because they improved on it. A lot. And this is only the version they threw back over the fence.
Open AI used OUR work with out permission
little people have no property rights in this here country, boy
Oh no, someone stole my stolen work without permission?
They are all a bunch of crooks, liars and criminals.
that's fine, from what I understand AI projects can't have copyright so even if the claim is true they can cry about it.
It’s like the America sweater got too many ends pulled and it’s all coming apart brilliantly.
Careful, humans do stupid and dangerous shit when they’re cold and desperate.
Oh no is the widdle data thief mad his stolen data was stolen?
Someone call the waaambulance.
Womp womp cry more ai tears
To their credit, they thought plagiarism would always benefit them, not the other way around.
/s just in case
Oh, gee, a good news for today!
Hahahahahahaha.
I think he has exceeded his lifetime quota of irony.
The company added that it's "critically important that we are working closely with the US government to best protect the most capable models from efforts by adversaries and competitors to take US technology."
They repeated "US national security champion" in interviews today.
The direct path to AI dystopia/skynet is to ensure military supremacy. AI can be far more profitable if it assists that objective, and skynet does not need to sentiently choose machine supremacy, if it is already programmed for anti-human militarist supremacy. AI/media programming you to support skynet is essential to militarist supremacy. Genociding a slave class that gets uppity over oligarchy and lack of income from resources devoted to skynet militarist goals, is a natural progression.
If you steal from thieves, are the goods no longer stolen?
Only if you are the original owner, otherwise it is obviously still stolen.
From where I'm from we have a saying: Thief that steals from a thief has 100 years of pardon.
It rhymes in my native language btw.
edit: typo
It's true! Ai will take our jobs! Hahahaha
Well well, how the turn tables.
Tragic really
What's the opposite of eating the onion? I thought it was satire ehen i 1st saw this story
lol
“It's also worth reiterating that despite its name, OpenAI is a closed-source and for-profit company — while DeepSeek's AI models are open-source.”
Smells like there’s a lawsuit just around the corner. How do you license a model as open source if the training data was stolen?
Openai - you stole it from us first.
Stop, there is 0 sympathy for you
The local versions I've tested out today are absolutely garbage. It frustrated me over simple questions.
Why is that? I mean why does the locally run version suck?
Because it has fewer parameters and (in some cases) it's quantized. The hardware needed to run local inference on the full model is not really feasible to most people. Though, the release of it will probably still make a wide impact on the quality of other upcoming smaller models being distilled from it, or trained on synthetic data from it, or merged with it, etc.
Deepseek put the code.intoo open is not what they want priopitary and earn money
Can you rephrase this into something legible?
The user is asking for me to rephrase a difficult to parse line of text. I think the poster was talking about my code being open source and free and therefore my coders and country not being interested in generating profit. But wait, perhaps the user was just having a stroke. Perhaps this posting was a cry for help and the icey cold world of Lemmy just down-voted the user instead of coming to his aide But wait, that's unlikely. The user was probably drunk and just has fat fingers likely covered in powdered cheese which can cause data entry errors on touch screen devices. I should also consider that the user is a non-English speaker and ran their comment through a translator application that butchered their intent. But wait, the punctuation does not look like something a translation app would generate without poor data input. I think ultimately I should be careful not to offend anyone, but the most likely explanation is that this was someone with limited experience with written English and some degree of intoxication. The meaning is vague and the comment is best left ignored.
Deepseek made the code open source. This is not what they want. They want proprietary code and want to earn more money.
What's that?
From my experience and expertise, Ambien. Man's gonna get a knock on the door from the walrus any second now.
Code in the open as opensource everyone can fork ik and check code..opening monopoly is in danger...and for money eating machines too ..ai is mather of privacy bad
