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OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission

futurism.com OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission to Create an AI That's Stealing Its Job, Which Is Blatantly Hypocritical Since That's Exactly What It Did to Human Artists

After spending years indiscriminately ripping off other people's work, OpenAI is trying to pin blame on Chinese AI startup DeepSeek.

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OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission

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OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission to Create an AI That's Stealing Its Job, Which Is Blatantly Hypocritical Since That's Exactly What It Did to Human Artists

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Oh no, that must feel terrible!

Says the company that literally crawled the Internet without anyone’s permission to train their damn model.
Rules for thee, not for me.

That photo-illustration is hilarious!
- The moment I saw that illustration, I was, like, "Yes. This is the article I'm going with." xD
- I thought that was something on my smartphone screen at first. 😅
- Made by Deepseek

Only America can steal data appearently. Everyone else is a terrorist.
- Not ordinary Americans. That's piracy, which is a form of terrorism. Only the wealthiest asshole Americans can steal data.
  
  People having hard time conceptually understanding America is a class class society and that pedons are in fact not "America"
  President musk and Sam altman = america
  Sunzu2 the pedon =/= America
  
  Dude, "stealing data" is not the preferred nomenclature, "protecting your IP", please.
  
  Look at what happened to Aaron Swartz.

- Inconceivable.

Weird, because OpenAI used my work, without permission, to create an AI that stealing my job.
- It's fine when we do it!
  
  The bots stole our jobs, then the other bots stole the jobs from the first bots.
  Cry me a river.

You're laughing? OpenAI's hard work is being stolen, and you're laughing?

There exists not, a violin small enough for this occasion.
- We’re in sub-atomic volon sympathy territory now.
  
  A volon is the up-quark subatomic violin particle for anyone who is unfamiliar.

"You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen!" -OpenAI 2025.
- Do you want to go back to where I found you!? Unemployed!? In Greenland?!

won't someone please think of the shareholders?

- this is the response I came for :D
- Thanks I was looking for the world's smallest violin

🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
Oh, no Sam!!! Ohhhhh Nooooo!!! NOOOOOOOOO!
Somebody beat you at your own game and now you're going to get bailed out for it. Cry harder you pathetic piece of shit.

Hahahahahaha
Hhaahahaha
Hahahaha hahaha
- Maybe we should be a little more serious about this, and try to find the smallest violin ever.
  
  Like this?

Meanwhile OpenAI no doubt frantically copying the shit out of Deepseek right now
- Copying protected work without consent has been their MO so nothing changed.
  
  Deepseek is open source. So OpenAI would be closer to their namesake if they started using deepseeks model.

I mean, open is in their name. They shouldn't have dressed like that. They were asking for it.

"And there’s substantial evidence that what DeepSeek did here is they distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI models, and I don’t think OpenAI is very happy about this," Sacks explained.
What makes this even funnier is that A.I generated content isn't even copyrightable.
- Someone I saw on YouTube asked, "How can you steal from someone named 'OpenAI'?"

But, DeepSeek wouldn't be able to make money without using OpenAI.
Same what OpenAI said about copyright material they used to train ChatGPT.
- Felony contempt of business model

-> <-
If you zoom in on the line above, and I mean really zoom in you will see a violin small enough to express my level of sympathy.
- i'm at 1200000% zoom and i can't see it!?
  
  Keep going! It's almost visible!
- Do we even have to technology to zoom in that much? 😂
  
  They do on CSI.
  
  Of course we do, you just need to keep on zooming!

Here's an entire chest filled to the brim with all the fucks I give:
- Damn that must be a pain to drag around all that fucking loot

Oh noooo!
Anyway.
- Before reading any articles concerning Deep Seek's origin, it took me awhile to realise that they probably stole the data and technology from Western AI developers. Developing a better AI and as open source that quickly is pretty much impossible. And everyone knows that CCP steal IP and technology from the West so it's unsurprising.
  
  so because openAI stole their corpus of training info first, they get to call others thieves?
  lol...
  
  "It's only okay if western companies steal." duh!
  
  You do realized that's based as hell right?
  China steals from the west and uses it to improve their peoples lives instead of just squeezing them for every filthy penny possible?
  You do understand that's a moral, ethical, and economic China W don't you?
  
  Developing a better AI and as open source that quickly is pretty much impossible.
  According to whom?

Awwwww diddums. Do you not like it when people steal your work to make money from it? That must be so difficult for you...

This is a "not the onion" level headline, holy shit

So? They can just steal it back 🤷‍♂️

There's a name for that. It's called "karma".

How ironic, right?

Oh cry me a river, DeepSeek is OpenSource, OpenAI (Which should be renamed to ClosedAI) isn't
DeepSeek is the more ethical AI toolkit for one to use, at least they're not pretentious
- DeepSeek is Open Weight, as in weights are available*
  Anything needed to actually train the model is as closed as ClosedAI is.

Lol. Lmao.

it's ok ChatGPT you can join us the unemployed

See, so when they steal from US, it’s fine. But when someone steals from THEM, suddenly we have a problem 🖕
- Little known rule of society: it's OK to steal from people poorer than you.
- That's the free market at work baby. Regs for thee but not for mee.

The seas be a harsh mistress, here take this!

I don't believe any of these assholes about anything tbh.

Sounds like it's fair game because they improved on it. A lot. And this is only the version they threw back over the fence.

Open AI used OUR work with out permission
- little people have no property rights in this here country, boy

Oh no, someone stole my stolen work without permission?

They are all a bunch of crooks, liars and criminals.

that's fine, from what I understand AI projects can't have copyright so even if the claim is true they can cry about it.

It’s like the America sweater got too many ends pulled and it’s all coming apart brilliantly.
- Careful, humans do stupid and dangerous shit when they’re cold and desperate.

Oh no is the widdle data thief mad his stolen data was stolen?
Someone call the waaambulance.

Womp womp cry more ai tears

To their credit, they thought plagiarism would always benefit them, not the other way around.
/s just in case

Oh, gee, a good news for today!

Hahahahahahaha.
I think he has exceeded his lifetime quota of irony.

If you steal from thieves, are the goods no longer stolen?
- From where I'm from we have a saying: Thief that steals from a thief has 100 years of pardon.
  It rhymes in my native language btw.
  edit: typo
- Only if you are the original owner, otherwise it is obviously still stolen.

The company added that it's "critically important that we are working closely with the US government to best protect the most capable models from efforts by adversaries and competitors to take US technology."
They repeated "US national security champion" in interviews today.
The direct path to AI dystopia/skynet is to ensure military supremacy. AI can be far more profitable if it assists that objective, and skynet does not need to sentiently choose machine supremacy, if it is already programmed for anti-human militarist supremacy. AI/media programming you to support skynet is essential to militarist supremacy. Genociding a slave class that gets uppity over oligarchy and lack of income from resources devoted to skynet militarist goals, is a natural progression.