The ACP founder Adam "Haz Al-Din" Tahir has some normal takes (CW: Bigotry, Slurs, Hate Speech)

patsocs are just reinventing labor Zionism but with American characteristics.

Edit: also this is a fundamental part of their identity, every one of their public faces you see is objectively an out of touch bigot who more closely caucas with open Strasserites and nazbols than they do with any workplace.

Edit 2: as far as I'm concerned, any accusation they make against any communist party in America is projection

the comparison to labour zionism is interesting. never thought of it like that.

He used to post here. Don't pay him any attention, he's just an online weirdo

Unfortunately I don't think this guy is just an online weirdo. He goes on RT. He goes on Chinese TV. He goes to Trump rallies and interviews people. His political tendencies are Larouchite and these quasi-communist reactionaries have existed in American politics for decades. He's a symptom of a larger problem, which is reactionary encirclement and distortion of revolutionary talking points.
- He's a symptom of a larger problem, which is reactionary encirclement and distortion of revolutionary talking points.
  We should especially heed this part. We should always remember that Fascist ideologues like Mussolini and Sorel used revolutionary sounding language to push for reinforcement of the capitalist power structure under the aegis of a militarized nation state.
- Yup. The USA has been so right wing and propagandized in recent decades that people like him weren't even necessary, but I would expect more of this as neoliberalism breaks down.
- :wack:
He used to post here.
Særr?!

Trust me, we're definitely socialists. It's even there in the name: Nationalsozialistische

Call their entire leadership the Strass bros
- Strass-o-sphere -

Nothing says “my ideology is gibberish” like equating the LGBTQ community with the ruling class

wherever i walk cissies bow down and cower at my boots, afraid i might choose to lay my gaze upon them and destroy their livelihoods, their family, their gods, and their way of life
Stonewall was famously done by super rich people and not poor queers who were just trying to be queer in their own city
- Yeah it’s like, Peter Thiel exists, but he is the exception, not the rule. And he probably wouldn’t even be where he is if he wasn’t a white cis man.
They love to flash pictures of imperialist pinkwashers performatively holding a rainbow flag at a NATO conference or whatever and going "SEE SEE LGBT IS AN ELITIST THINK TANK!!!!"
They think this is a very effective talking point for some reason.

Is this one of those Nazbols that I've heard about?

In the American context, Adam "Haz" Tahir is more like a neo-Laroucheite
Here's a good overview of that from RevLeftRadio and Donald Parkinson, who btw namedrops Adam "Haz" Tahir when talking about these kinds of cults: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NhVKmHN1i4
Although he is more of a neo-larouchite, he has ideological overlap with nazbols in that he has interviewed and praised Dugin, one of the cofounders along with Limonov of the National Bolshevik Party (Nazbols) who were a subculture movement in Russia after the collapse of the USSR. They called themselves a party but nothing really ever came of them politically. I don't know much about them. Their flag incorporated nazi aesthetics (the red field and white circle of the third reich flag, with the black swastika replaced by a hammer and sickle) but I've been told on some occasions it was just edgelord counter-cultural punk rock shock jock stuff. I don't believe that, but I'm not going to go too in depth because I'm not Russian and haven't done extensive research on them.
Anyway Haz is also always pushing for people to read Heidegger, an unrepentant nazi philosopher, as being "essential" to understanding Marx. Whenever Heidegger's nazi affiliations are brought up he claims they are "irrelevant" (somehow) to his philosophy.
- I'd go with classifying him as a neo-larouchite as you stated. It fits more with the American context that his reactionary thinking is rooted in.
  Anybody who throws their lot in with Dugin should be at least warned and avoided if they are unable to be saved. I watched a series of videos by Derick Varn where he goes through Dugin's writings to critique them and he points out Dugin explicitly states that he wants to recruit leftists to his 4th positionist movement. We should especially be wary of these folks trying to get their foot in the door by inserting themselves into any discussions that are had on the left about what a multipolar world would mean for the future. It seems like that's the angle they try to hook leftists at the moment.
  Heidegger is always a big red flag to me.
- I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
  yewtu.be
  inv.nadeko.net
  yt.artemislena.eu
  piped.video
Yes. If you still don't know much about it, please take my serious word on this and keep it that way. Save yourself
- I've heard about him but, never heard a word from his mouth. I usually just place him in the same box of deplorables as
  and Mr. Botticelli. All annoying Internet guys who have toxic fandoms.
Not so fun fact in addition to everything else said about him, he used to post here for a bit before I think he was banned which may be why he's such a hate filled piece of shit
He may actually be the only real enemy of Hexbear who knows we exist
- That checks out.
  Was it the sub or here? I would have been technically paying attention to it at the time but, my memory is foggy?

My first exposure to this dipshit was when YT randomly recommended me his speech "Occupied States of America". I thought reading the title of the speech, "Oh, is this gonna be about how the United States is built on stolen land seized by broken and coercive treaties?", but then I listened to the speech for a while and I realized, "Yeah, this guy is just a confident orator who does not know a damn thing about what he's talking about, fuck'im"

Shouldn't this be easy enough to dispel? I know the guy is a complete idiot but it sounds like he's completely fabricating Marxist-Leninist theory. "culture is something qualitative and determinate" lol which theorist said this? Gramsci's main body of work was about how this wasn't the case. Engels wrote entire books about how family structures get fabricated.

They'd probably say something mind-numbing like engels was a woke liberal satanist and Gramsci was a loser
<insert ableist slur here>
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Their theatrical performance of an ideology fundamentally adopts the strategy of weaving inconsistencies into fabric sheets of bullshit in the style that embodies the logic of fascism.
He's such a clown he derives the basis of his ideas from Heidegger, Dugin, and Discord memes

just missing a balcony to complete the look

LGBT libtards

I’m very unfamiliar with the patsoc thing because I don’t have the time for this shit—I’m only vaguely aware who these people are—and I never knew Haz was this bad.

Yeah it's worth not doom scrolling this toxic knowledge into your noggin if you're not really aware of them.
- I don’t really care about that (tbh it annoys me when people tell me “it’s not worth poisoning your brain over,” etc.), I just take him and his ilk so un-seriously that I don’t care.

i'm rolling amd im not going to read this. i found quora and lesbian insertions in my slime's macbook air history earlier. im going to put on youtubes of gibbons

I've seen several posts about this loser recently. I thought he was basically discredited years ago?

Just statistically, there are people with some seriously odd beliefs. These can be amplified easily online. Not to get into conspiracy territory, but I wouldn't be surprised if algorithms push him and other 'MAGA communists' because a) libs can point to him and pretend horseshoe theory is real b) this is basically identical to Nazism

I think capital inaugurates, consciously or not, right deviationist quasi-socialists like "natsocs", "patsocs", "magacommunists", and "nazbols", in order to divide and conquer the rising, organizing proletariat. They want to give the working class an identity crisis and start questioning whether socialism is objectively, inherently, permanently chauvinist or not when it comes to superstructural issues. Netanyahu took a similar but not quite related to socialism "divide and conquer" rhetorical tact last week when he told Congress "Gays for Gaza is like Chickens for KFC" and the right wing press applauded this, as if they or Netanyahu has ever cared about gay people.

I do want a "Do what you will shall be the whole of the law", "anything goes" culture actually. I'm for my fellow freaks and fruits, and indeed extremely against heteronormative society as I could not exist within its confines. The sort of framework heteronormative society imposes and the attendant expectations of such a structure, notably, represent a major control vector for rightward forces. In bucking those mechanisms, I jettison a way they could exert influence over me. If any of these guys have a problem with that, I cordially invite them to lick my sweaty asshole.

I'm not enough of a dumbass to go vouching for an environment where I and the only people I get along with couldn't exist, anyhow.

Also I like how he points out that "They have a flag" as if it's of any significance, when anyone can make a flag for any reason. Shit, fictitious countries from books, movies, and games have flags. Shops sometimes advertise sales with types of flags.

Hinkle Tinkle is def an op, but I think Haz is just really fucking dumb
- of course it is

I'm sad that Midwestern Marx fell in with these chumps

the bourgeoisie must be getting worried about the fledgling left in the US to go to this new length

Folks i finally found one of those infranerds old hexbear accounts

did they remove everything or...?
- I think this was like one of two or three infra accounts that were trying to peddle haz' shit takes on the site and was like the last account to get stomped on to convince them we ain't buying their snake oil

Who's gonna tell him communism is a left ideology ?

They love little rhetorical tricks like showing you the front cover of "Left-Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder by Lenin but not citing anything Lenin actually said in that book and ignoring the specific early 20th century Russian political context in which it was written. They also love citing random homophobic incidents from people like Stalin in the 40s or Castro in the 60s, and acting as though that means Communism as a political movement must permanently have a heteronormative socially conservative superstructure. They love to do vulgar "workerism" which is where you idealize the "normal" "average" worker and project that as a moral ethic that the rest of society should strive towards. They love to do growth fetishism and treat reproduction and "family units" as a part of the proletariat's "duties" to the ~~capitalist class~~ totally socialist society they envision.

A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm

gay people are a nation, haz is a douche

edit: i should clarify this is very tongue in cheek