US says Israel has not violated international law during Gaza war
US says Israel has not violated international law during Gaza war
After Israel killed seven aid workers in Gaza, the US says it has not found any incidents of Israel violating international humanitarian law in the past six months. An Al Jazeera probe concluded the World Central Kitchen vehicles were deliberately hit.
Clown country
I wish it was more funny :(
Oh god dammit put down the monkey paw, we just had this with the last guy.
Holy hell, how can he say that with a straight face?
Because the five of us here who aren't
are the only people in the entire world who don't take MSM at face valueI always find a weird cognitive dissonance when I talk to people on the street about it. They know its not trustworthy, but they still trust it. They're more open if you point that out before presenting alternatives.
Its kind of like elections? 'Everything's broken, all the systems are bad and will never serve us, vote em all out!' As opposed to real action.
Politicians are professional liars
And I'm really insulted they're not doing a better job.
I can't imagine what it takes to stand up there and say that shit with a straight face. Fuck you for representing my country.
Its not your country. Youre its property.
Who's property are you?
Thought this was an Onion article from the headline
the US says it has not
foundlooked for evidence of Israel violating humanitarian law.
FTF them.
American officials scoured their own belly buttons, even removing some old cotton, but found no evidence of Israel violating humanitarian laws.
Seriously, I bet any investigation went something like "Hay Ari, sorry I have to ask, it's just a technicality, you see... you're following all humanitarian laws, right?", and then their IDF lunch buddy went "Absolutely not, we do only the gentlest airstrikes and the Palestinians shake our hands in the rubble afterwards". Grilling the Israelis is something they're not ideologically accustomed to, let alone making them prove anything.
US helps commit genocide.
Which, to be fair, is kind of a step up from their usual.
Brought to you by the same country that invaded iraq for Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found..
And Iraq the first time, for the incubator lie ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony )
and about 400 other countries before and since that
Love that americans are still worried about elections of all things as if anything other than organized violence will stop a capitalist government from committing genocide.
americans are too chickenshit and comfortable to do anything than complain. i wish we were more like the french.
The #1 thing I've noticed this go round is how the best even the most dem pundits and supporters can come up with is "Yeah Biden does it but Trump will do it worse"
Sufficiently grand disorganized violence or sufficiently organized property destruction could also work.
Hey we're not hungry enough yet. Violence is scary and we won't do it till we absolutely gotta. I mean we absolutely gotta but even as i know this I'm not picking up a gun yet, i still have a lot to lose. It's not like it's just here in the states, it's happening all over the western world. When will you decide to take up arms and take your life back?
I'm not attacking you, just putting you in my yankee shoes
Almost like the electoral system is broken and the only solution us direct action?
US/Europe's support of Israel and condemnation of Russia pretty much just shows the rest of the world what hypocrites they are.
Meanwhile people still sneer at me about "Uyghurs" and accuse me of being "political" and a "takfiri" if I say anything to the contrary.
Russia is trying in Ukraine. Their stated war aims are explicitly genocidal. They're just mostly failing, and not as fucking ghoulish about it as the kapo trash doing 'protocols of the elders of zion' larp with real bullets.
So condemning them is the right thing to do, but not condemning (and continuing to feed+arm) the worse assholes doing a worse version of the same thing on much more helpless people is the problem.
France and Spain have voted fairly reliably against Israel. Spain called Israels action a genocide. Germany and the UK are the two European countries most pro Israel.
Why would anybody think that the US could have beef with settlers killing civilians?
Cops investigated themselves and found no wrong doing
And anyone trusts anything the US says why?
Because while it is morally crap. It is technically correct.
Palestine is not recognised as a nation internationally. And historically never has been.
So no international law applies to actions being committed.
It has an nation observer seat at the UN, was a nation as a "mandate" after WW1 and the ICJ did make a ruling saying that Genocide was being committed there that the US passed a law threatening Palistine from recognizing.
On top of this most of the world recognized palistine as a country only 55 of the 193 (194 if we are counting the Holy Sea/Vatican City) do not recognize palistine. I would call that International recognition if 139 members of the UN Recognize Palestine.
So I really do not get what you are trying to say here, because it is not even techincaly correct, the International Court of Justice, United Nations General Assembly, International Red Cross Cressent and Crystal have all said it is a vioilation of international law.
This is before I start listing the individual counts of them violating just the geneva conventions, that apply to a signitory when they they fight any war reguardless of if the other side is recognized or a signitory. and agian Palistine is internationaly recognized
That isn't even true in our shitty system.
139 out of 193 countries recognise Palestine as a nation internationally.
Considering they include China, Indonesia, Nigeria, India AND Pakistan, Brazil and Russia, it's more accurate to say the vast majority of homo sapiens recognise the state of Palestine
Did you have a stroke when typing palestine
US is an accomplice, so of course they can't admit to Israel violating international law.
Until every member of the US and Israeli cabinets are swinging from a fucking tree
Oh okay we'll just take your word for it then
"We have investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing"
John Kirby's just trying to figure out whether or not he's become a real boy yet.
I wish some of the reporters had said to him in the last interview, "so, they've investigated themselves and found they did nothing wrong?"
Mainstream news reporting does not incentivize thoughtful investigative journalism any longer. The publications have narratives and political slants to push. BAU states that Israel is allowed to do whatever they want. Maybe they shouldn't have been allowed to have nuclear weapons.
That is because Washington sees white people as human, and everyone else as subhuman.
This is the correct answer.
I was just gonna say how fucking ironic it is the US became full on Nazis after defeating them 70 years ago. I know Amurica secretly gave the Nazi scientists a place to hide after WWII but what we've become is next level. Or maybe we've always been this way and it's just become more evident. Either way, this backing of genocide, killing semitic people using the name of semetic people is white supremacist as fuck.
World War 2 was about which flavour of white supremacy would rule the World.
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Can't leave out the christ-centrism that the West exhibits en masse, too.
To most christians, killing muslims is a good thing no matter what.
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That spokesperson doesn’t reflect well on his agency, our government or our people.
This is why I don't identify as an american, despite my accent.
Axis of Genocide: Washington, London, Berlin, Tel Aviv.
Day after day, US gov and ‘Is-not-real’ digging their own graves.
all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.
Every US foreign secretary spox is a step more disgusting than the previous one.
Since when is the US government the IC-fucking-J?
Fuck off.
and the rest of the world says you're complicit in their genocide.
USian here: Yes they did.
holy hypocracy
After policy: When you're the king of the mountain, war crimes are literally what you say they are.
huh I didn't think the US could have even less credibility on war crimes
The reason is that it has not issued any findings yet. It is going to in a few months.
This is clever wordplay, nothing more.
Edit: fuck me, it's as if no one gives a shit about the truth anymore. It's all kneejerk reactions.
This is a non-story. Governments don't just willy nilly declare that somebody has or has not committed a war crime. It goes through an entire process. That process has not completed yet (in the US anyway). There are no findings yet. Therefore until the findings are released, the US has not found that Israel has done anything.
You seem to be a very savvy individual. Would you be interested in purchasing a bridge?
In Baltimore.
So in your opinion the US will bring the genociders to court a few months after there's no one left to kill and that's normal
You must be very new to the world. You really think a nuclear power will ever be held fully accountable for the bad things that they do?
Perhaps you and the bridge guy need to have a conversation. I hear that it's in a gorgeous location near Brooklyn.
So in your opinion the US will bring the genociders to court a few months after there's no one left to kill and that's normal
Meanwhile Joe Bellend has given what, over R600 billion ZAR to Isisrael to destroy R500 billion ZAR of infrastructure, rendered all public services inoperable or at best terminal, a homicide rate of 3.6%+ and in the northern half, the equivalent of Nelson Mandela Bay wiped from the map with a food crisis bordering that of Auschwitz (no this is not an exaggeration). Most if not all consular services have also been destroyed, leaving numbers of "external refugees" to seek aid from the UN, whose functions are also in terminal crisis.
All this with massive praise from the cracker-sphere, whose rhetoric becomes more bloodthirsty by the day, with the stance of "every man, woman, child and infant between Gaza and Gauteng is a terrorist" also starting to become prevalent. Except Ireland; Ireland is the only actually good western country.
The Jihad against the "African Christian Democratic Party" and the "South African Friends of Israel" will continue until conditions improve.
Let's say it was Trump's press secretary, and Russia they were defending..
Would you feel any different?
Whew laddie
That is what we call a lie by stating a correct statement.
Why? It is only a correct statement because Israel has and had already violated International Law before the recent Gaza war.
A truthful statement would be, "Israel continues to break international law in the current Gaza War as it has done for years and per over 30 UN Resolutions."
The power of words, friends.
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This guy reminds me of Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf.
…and America used to be the good guy.
Lmfao. When was that bud? When we killed the natives? When we locked up the Japanese? When we overthrow South American governments?
Maybe it was when we had an economy based on slave labor! If that's the metric we're using, America has been the good guys the whole time it's existed!
I think this is an example of the winner writing history more than anything. America has done some messed up stuff
As much as I hate it, from my understanding he's right (expect for genocide). The UN doesn't recognize Palestine as a country. Ergo internal conflict
Genocide is one of the only ways a country can break international laws without an international conflict
The UN does not recognize a Palestinian government the UN charter explicitly described both the states of Palestine and Isreal
Good point well made.
It is also a fair note. That neither Palestine or Israel has any real claim. The state that owned the land. The otterman empire. No longer existed when the land was allocated.
And while the UK allocation of peoples homes was crappy. The fact that the Palestinian peoples leaders refuse to accept any compromise that allows the existence of Israel. Is also the reason the current mess exists.
All sides are pretty fucked up here.
It is also a fair note. That neither Palestine or Israel has any real claim. The state that owned the land. The otterman empire. No longer existed when the land was allocated.
What the actual fuck are you talking about. Like seriously, what does it matter that the ottoman empire ruled the land, the Palestinians (including a number of orthodox Jews) lived there. That's their fucking claim to it
And while the UK allocation of peoples homes was crappy. The fact that the Palestinian peoples leaders refuse to accept any compromise that allows the existence of Israel. Is also the reason the current mess exists.
Do you want to interrogate this further, why was it crappy, could it be because the UK had a vested interest in creating a colonial project? And why should the Palestinians compromise, colonizers are coming in, removing them from their homes and killing them indescriminately. How can you even compromise with Israel when they continue to illegally steal land on the west bank and golan heights (and of they had their way Sinai too)
All sides are pretty fucked up here.
Go fuck yourself
I wonder if this will get me downvoted:
Has not found evidence ≠ Has not.
I still think they're blind, but let's not misconstrue what was actually said.
has not found any incidents of Israel violating international humanitarian law in the past six months
Which is obviously a deliberate lie
Edit: Fixed emphasis
To be clear though, this distinction without a difference is precisely how institutions lie, how they set up plausible deniability, and how they end up supporting things like genocide for years.
So there really is no defense of it. Getting mired in the details when the purpose of the lie is clear is to support this kind of propaganda. There is no "Well achktuallly" that can be defended on Israel and the USs ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.
And when you watch the video, he says "There was no evidence of that".
*Some people can't read details, so to clarify: I'm not agreeing with him. I'm saying that's what he said.
You can not find evidence reliably by covering your eyes and ears.
Israel, with US backing, is destroying the concept of international law. It's now clear to everyone that the so-called international rules based order isn't real and that the rules only apply to US enemies like Russia.
I think we're seeing a repeat of the League of Nations.
That and brown people don't count as people.
That's the bigger one. They're happy to enforce the rules on brown people when they attack brown people, or white people on white people, and all hell is unleashed when it's brown on white, but when it's mostly white Israelis on mostly brown Palestinians you get crickets.
Only leftists think we score a point when we say 'rules based order' is a farse. It's meant to be a farse, or they'd say international law like everyone else. To the imperial core and liberals, this is obvious and correct.
The people in charge see it as obvious.
Do you think every dumbass liberal does? No! That's why we raise the contradictions.
Poor Russia!
You might have missed the point lol