His last post that he made, in which he tweeted out the link to the twitch channel where he livestreamed his death:
Hard to guess what his politics were.
Guy was incredibly based. o7.
Wow. Those are powerful last words, sincerely.
Do libs actually think there's a well organized Marxist Leninist movement in the west? That we have our hands in everything? This is chud level of derangement, because they think the exact same thing.
actually yes its called the republican party
Putins secret army!!
Scratch a liberal...
Yes. It’s called the Democratic Party and British Labour Party
It's seriously angering me how like, what he did is just being brushed off as "mental illness"
They will convert all social ailments into personal flaws people have in their brains that they can use to discredit them as they see fit. Fuckin' hate liberals.
If you do that, you don't have to look at any possible reasons for it. Can't have downers ruining our adventures overseas.
Not only that but the underlying assumption is that the mentally ill (and those considered mentally ill) cannot and do not have political agency. They are nothing but the sum of their afflictions.
It's unbelievably disgusting.
Liberals are hardcore bigotted towards mental illness and see "being mad" as an easy out to dehumanise or delegitimize people.
They do this all the time, every little thing becomes mental illness, even mild complaints are suddenly 'anxiety-depression'. To them all minorities and the poor are mentally ill, no fucking different than the damn chuds, what toxic individualism does to a mf class.
If someone did this in front of a Russian or Chinese embassy these exact same people would be calling them a hero
Like, honestly, I think there's a fair case to be made about the whole "Don't diagnose others" thing sometimes
Military guy: 'I have realised that the army I am part of is committing genocide and I am ending my own life painfully to make a statement in defiance of said genocide'
This fuckin lib: "he wanted attention for this"
The thing is, they're almost right: it was a spectacle, he did want attention - ATTENTION TO THE GENOCIDE. They just can't (or refuse to) understand that anyone could take any action to benefit a larger cause instead of benefiting themselves as individuals.
When you think about it, the most effective form of protest is filling out paperwork to change your career.
The ruling class is trembling
The amount of projection in that first paragraph is wild. Like, they fundamentally can't grasp why someone would care about the genocide, so start reaching for "if I did this, why would I," and all they can come up with is clout sharking.
The idea of taking a principled stand for something is literally incomprehensible to liberals.
Calling people who self-immolate crazy or mentally ill isn't really new, it happens with people who did it during the Vietnam War in USA.
But when people in bad countries do it, it's called courage or an indication of how nightmarish it is to live under an autocratic regime.
"Sacrificing yourself for your principles" = "mental illness"
~libs
Well to them principles are things you only say you have, loudly and often, as a way to get social capital. Of course they can't understand dying for your beliefs, they don't actually believe anything.
well put
NAFO pfp says it all with no words
Internet tough guy writing screeds about destroying the Russians and how badass NATO militaries are doesn’t actually care about the individual troops?
Oh yeah because as we all know attention is really helpful when you’re FUCKING DEAD, it can’t be because he was PROTESTING A GENOCIDE or something
He was young and had military experience. What he did was incrediblely unproductive given the potential he had. I dont see why his actions should be praised. All he did was fucking die while saying what everyone already knows.
attention is really helpful when you’re FUCKING DEAD
I couldn't agree more with your sarcasm.
If his martyrdom shortens Israel's war against Palestinians by one day then it would save about 250 lives.
It does feel like this has affected people, the media is clamping down on this as hard as they can but it's still filtering into the public consciousness. Who can say what kind of effect he'll have? I certainly can't.
To the liberal brainpan, sincerity is a trope in fiction, or perhaps a long-obsolete custom from bygone times
Liberals can't even analyze fiction anymore without assuming that because you consume it, you cosign it (and honestly even I still have occasional knee-jerks in this direction despite knowing better)
"nooooo don't martyr yourself ur so much better off being a goon for hire aiding and abetting genocide"
No cause is worth sacrificing for to these people. Except maybe service of the boot
They need feeding tubes to eat because their tongues are permanently welded to the boot
Anyone left of Hitler is a tankie to these weirdos
Giving them too much credit, I could very much see them make the argument "Hitler was a tankie" unironically
"For no reason"
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Way to strip this person of all agency by trying to frame him mentally ill or otherwise Other him.
Talk about thought terminating type of thinking this reads like ultimate acceptance of both apathy and neoliberalism (should have used his individiual options and not bother the collective with that bothersome thing that is the reality of a genocide).
I radicalized in part because of my mental illness. This does not mean I was taken advantage of. The fact that people don’t understand this is infantilizing and ableist.
Feel free to tell me off, but I am not happy with people who are against the barbarian westernist imperialism to die. I am not okay with any left winger dying. If any of you would even as much as get hurt I am going to have the big sad and I hope it makes you feel so guilty you will live a long and fullfiling life (after the upcoming communist revolution).
I'm not exactly happy about it either, but saying the only cause was "mental illness" and that its the fault of "tankies" that he did this is so so much worse that it doesn't even bear mentioning. I wish that he didn't feel the need to do this, rather than organize with the living, but I think we all deserve the autonomy to make that choice.
Imagine seeing a protest, any kind of protest, and thinking to yourself, "ah, but they just want ATTENTION."
And even then, who'd even set themselves on fire just for attention?
I hope the death of the Amerikan liberal, as an identity, as a class, and even as an individual, dies as slowly and agonizingly as Aaron's flames ate away at him. I want the Amerikan liberal's last gasps of air to be a cursing of whatever artificially-constructed god they worship; because they worship at the altars of no divinity with actual dogmas beyond greed, viciousness, and consumption.
Surprised no one commented on how moronic it is to think the US military just lets people quit when they aren’t feeling it anymore lol. They will laugh in your face. They own you the minute you sign the contract, barring extraordinary circumstances not including conscience.
Dude casually dropping the “just be Muslim” like that’s a thing
Not intending this as a "uh, acktually" but just to add information on this front.
This is basically true across the board. If they, meaning your direct commander and their commander, feel the need to keep you around until your contract is up, then yeah, you're not going anywhere. Beyond your commanders there are others in basically like "HR" types whose job is to keep every job in the military manned at a certain leveled based on criteria that someone figures out. So if they need 10 people in your specific job and currently there are 10 or less, well, you ain't getting out even if your command does agree to let you be released early.
The only small exceptions to any of this are the obvious ones: you become disabled in some capacity to the point that you can no longer perform your duties and also can't be retrained into another less demanding position. Pretty rare, but it does happen to active duty sometimes. People use the term "med board" or medical board because a board of military doctors and others decide if you're fit to stay, etc.
But as far as voluntarily exiting early you can get out of an enlistment contract a few years early with commander approval (and beyond) to attend college and then officer training. I think this is more of a pause than an end though because you intend to reenter service as an officer in a couple years. This is also rare as fuck.
You can also get out early by being (or becoming) a conscientious objector. This is actually somewhat "dangerous" to do once you're active duty though since you are either saying you previously lied during enlistment (false enlistment carries some punishment possibly) or you have to prove that your mind has legitimately changed and you aren't cynically claiming the status simply to get out. Again, commanders hold nearly all the power here. They can rubber stamp it if, for example, some dude converts to Islam and marries a Muslim woman and they appear to now live/want to live a devout lifestyle. If he was previously not known to hold beliefs that prevent him from military duty, but has undergone a period of change and now outwardly holds different views, this is enough to get out. Assuming the commander(s) approve, of course.
You can also get out for failure to adapt type reasons eg inability to regularly maintain physical fitness standards. For the chair force this was just a simple honorable discharge (the normal default status). That may be different now for them and other branches. This still takes time to fulfill though since they'll force you to do extra PT, go to diet courses, might take over a year of failing to even get recommended to get kicked and you'll lose rank and put on shit jobs the whole way down as punishment.
You could also just straight up desert. They usually don't put much effort (now days) into finding people who do this HOWEVER it's like living life with a giant sword shaped warrant over your head and if you ever get picked up somehow you may be spending months in prison. Probably depends if you did anything else and all that stuff. Pretty sure desertion would make it impossible to be legally hired until it's resolved as well. Like it will pop up during initial onboarding at a new job. So you'll be working under the table forever or forced to leave the country.
So yeah, basically all of these are undesirable or extremely hard to pull off scenarios. Most people just end up doing the time. They basically got your ass.
This is what stopped me from going through with signing up when I was 18. The recruiters kept telling me more and more fanstical jobs I could be doing as the conversation went on until I just stopped believing them, and knowing they could just put me whereever and I wouldn't be able to leave for 4 years was very unappealing.
Side point: They made me take some computerized test in a back room and when I was finished that's when the stories got all fanciful. First they said I could be a nuclear engineer, then they said a cryptographer, then they said I could be in intelligence where I'd be writing the news that the networks run. Each time they had a different job the pay went up and up and up. Once they hit the intelligence thing writing the news and said I'd be making at least 100k I completely stopped believing them, though not that they don't have people writing the news, just that they'd pay some dipshit from the midwest $100k to do it.
Pretty funny how they think you can just convert to Islam and the army is islamophobic enough they will just let you leave after that and cancel your contract, but also it’s good and normal that our military is this racist
yeah it's our fault he did that when 2/3 of us are saying he should've done something else instead
Soulless freaks
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This take gave me brain cancer
the soldier was literally an anarchist, right? that was how their twitch was themed
anarchist troop
How do you even square that circle, unless the politics was a very recent development?
Most people join around 18-20 years old. Not much more than children. By 25 you're much more developed mentally and might see the world totally differently than 18.
We may learn more, but just guessing, this guy probably just joined because the military functions as a jobs program for young people, mostly young like lower middle class men, to move up the economic ladder. (This is not an endorsement or saying it's good or saying people have no agency in all of this.)
once he got older he became disillusioned and was waiting to get out. Oct 7th happened, he probably heard some utterly puke-worthy rhetoric about it at work but had to remain mostly silent. Fast forward to yesterday, apparently the day he could no longer stay silent and complicit.
Again, I don't know for sure beyond his final statement. But that doesn't feel like too much of a fantasy to imagine.
It honestly makes the libs dismissing his act even more gross. This guy is the last person on earth basically who is supposed to feel empathy for Palestinians. I have to imagine he thought about a bunch of ways out or how to show solidarity and such. In the end apparently he concluded, correctly I think, that self immolation of an active duty US military member in a direct act of protest would be the most powerful and non-destructive message or action he could send or take. I'm trying really hard to feel the state of mind he must have felt near the end, the last few days, and I can't. I just know it was incredibly brave, sad, and I'll do my part to make sure the annoying libs have to think about his burning body forever. Maybe they'll give a shit about the white airman burning alive since they don't care about Palestinian children burning. If that's what it takes to make them stop signing off on genocide...
Economic pressure? Material conditions? Aggressive recruiting? Familial pressure? Nobody is immune to propaganda? Plenty of ways. Though given the age I'd bet disillusionment and. political growth is the most likely answer.
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I feel like if we had been talking to him he probably wouldn't have done this. They really underestimate the alienation we all experience under capitalism. Maybe I'm just being idealistic.
having a conscience is being mentally ill, tankie
"Omg, you hear a little voice in your head telling you not to do certain things? insert ableist slur"
I've thought about this the last couple of days. The mentally ill disqualifyer is especially rich considering every liberal I've ever met like this uses 'anxiety' as a blanket excuse for their bad behavior. Also, most people are mentally ill under capitalism. Our society is evil.
Indeed anyone who is totally mentally fine and just vibing on in the imperial core is either so insulated from the impacts of their lavish lifestyle, or a literal sociopath, or both more often.
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so he wanted attention for this, he wanted his 15 mins of fame, im sure he was incredibly depressed for so long he started to build resentment and so he wanted someone to witness it in person, and he wanted us all to witness his death that happened for no reason
NO reason is good enough to end it esp not for some foreign war bc not 1 thing politically will change because he did that. no politician will change their mind on anything bc one guy offed himself unless his intention was to inspire more people...?
if there are copycats, its because of all the Marxist Leninist types especially MK with Palestine flag
And let me just say, dont join the military if you think you might be a tankie or tankie adjacent politically.
If he wanted out of the Air Force he could have gotten paperwork started to get released for concientous objector or like idk converted to islam so they get the point that you really dont wanna participate anymore.
exploitation of the mentally ill for political purposes or for any reason is wrong
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