I think it’s been a month, maybe two?
You should read the post by Stamets about the move to get some more context about why the new community, if that interests you.
Link to the post mentioned: https://lemmy.world/post/11959030
Thanks
A few of us did leave comments and posts behind telling people where to go, but they quickly got deleted by the mod. Sorry, we tried. Glad you managed to find us!
Heh, of course he did. It takes a real big brain to kill a community where the only rule is “there are no rules.” A big, smooth brain.
Hey, you're the creator of the original r/risa back on Reddit! Yeah, it's crazy how quickly the burrito truck tanked it...the exodus practically happened overnight! I found out about Ten Forward not 48 hours after Stamets created it, and by then 95% of the posters had already moved away from Risa. I'm sorry they killed your creation, it's a real shame it had to happen over such stupid reasons.
The removed my posts asking people to post more because of "drama"
I didn't even know there was "drama" until recently. I like the idea of startrek[.]website but I don't like the way its being run. They should do a voluntary shift change.
This is the gritty yellow-brown paste I needed. Savory.
Am I being deprived of Stamets' memes because of some thin-skinned power-tripping douche mod?
Time for a new instance. Any recommendations for a stable instance that federates with everyone (except for the worst, of course)?
Edit: If anyone is confused, I meant to reply to this comment that links to Stamets' recent rundown on the whole kerfuffle.
Edit 2: I just learned something I'd like to share with anyone else that needs to know. If a user (Stamets, for example) is banned on your instance (startrek.website, for example) even here, a community on lemmy.world, you can't see his posts. Not only that, but if he comments you can't see any replies to his comment. There are a lot of comments in this thread startrek.website users can't see.
If you don't want overzealous admins curating your experience on other instances, you might want to find a new instance.
Sh.itjust.works has been excellent for me since joining. Any outages we have had have been resolved quickly and I have yet to see any spam.
I just jumped over to world because of all this. That makes my third instance in less than a year after leaving kbin.social for startrek land a few months ago. Lemmy is a little exhausting.
But at least that's an option. There is no non-spez instance of reddit, non-musk instance of twitter, or non-zuck instance of meta-stuff to jump to.
I took both of the other respondents suggestions. It only took a few minutes to get approved at both and now I can see Car Talk With Martok again.
I didn't even know that the admin of my instance banning someone would prevent me from seeing posts made in another instance.
Well, you can't see me at all but I'd obviously recommend lemmy.world personally although lemmy.dbzer0.com is a close second. I've heard mixed things about lemm.ee's administration. sh.itjust.works is pretty good for the most part. I've got some personal experience with a couple of admins who are really kind people who work way too hard.
Come sail the high seas, matey
Considering how much Paramount+ is charging- $11.99/mo for no ads- when they have a fraction of the content of, for example, Peacock, which costs the same... I don't blame anyone for pirating Star Trek shows at this point.
And, of course, on top of that, Star Trek is spread across multiple streaming services and you would have to subscribe to them all and spend a ton of money if you wanted to watch it all.
Most Star Trek is on Paramount+. But if you want to watch Prodigy? You need Netflix. Want to watch the TOS and TNG movies? You need Max. But hey, you can watch JJ "Trek" on Paramount+ instead of First Contact or Wrath of Khan. If you really want to.
If a user (Stamets, for example) is banned on your instance (startrek.website, for example) even here, a community on lemmy.world, you can’t see his posts. Not only that, but if he comments you can’t see any replies to his comment. There are a lot of comments in this thread startrek.website users can’t see.
Jeez, that is...wow. A shitty mod can really wreck content visibility on the 'verse if they're feeling particularly shitty.
Along with what Stamets already said, and I hope he doesn't mind if he speaks on his behalf, he will be rather occupied for the foreseeable future- at least in the short term- and will be posting fewer memes during that time. But eventually, he'll be back to his usual excellent post frequency and hopefully the rest of us mods can do what we can to fill the hole in his absence. And we'll sure miss him while he's busy!
Let me know if you want me to delete this, Stamets. I thought letting people know they won't see as much of you as usual for a while would be okay, so I hope you'll be okay with me revealing that without giving any personal details. Especially since we all love you and your posts and I don't want people thinking what OP is thinking and getting concerned.
(To clarify, nothing dire is happening with Stamets, he'll just be occupied with things other than Lemmy.)
Any instance that is over a year old and medium sized should be fine.
My instance is Lemmy.zip but there are many more.
lemdro.id is always happy to host :)
I noticed it switched when all the good Star Trek memes in my “all” feed switched from Risa to TenForward. Didn’t even know there was drama over on the other board until I saw the post. That’s one of the nice things about the fediverse, don’t like it, switch somewhere else and if the votes follow, everyone will see it.
Democracy in action! Long live the United Federation of Memes!
I mean a good chunk of people left an entire site for various misgivings, if any mod has a power trip, the group of people willing to leave an entire site is likely also willing to switch a community if someones on a trip.
Month and change. Check the logs a little over a week ago for a post by Stamets explaining the situation. Welcome aboard!
Shore leave ended
I want the officer in charge of the crew transfer brought in immediately
You rang?
Has it moved again? I'm just seeing shitposts by the same two users now :(
It's* been dead on Risa
Keep it civil. Disagreements will happen both on lore and preferences. That's okay! Just don't let it make you forget that the person you are talking to is also a person.
I find this ironic with Stamets as
an admina moderator, considering they participated in a dogpile on Risa because I made a joke that they didn't like and was completely harmless:
They deleted the comment because of the obvious toxicity, but considering the weight they pull in these communities and they were the first to comment, it's clear they had started the toxic dog piling. No apology, no trying to get others to tone it down. Just deleted their comment to hide their shame.
How can we trust the
adminsmoderators here won't do the same as what happened in Risa?*edited for formatting and admin -> moderator
Edit 2: In this comment thread you will see exactly why you should all question Stamet's ability to follow their own rules of their community and fail to be an example of how a community moderator should act. They clearly forgot they were talking to a person and intentionally inserted their own interpretations on my own words. Rather than fully owning up to their own actions, they try to downplay it with excuses and even double down on their toxic comments which they claim to be "sorry" and apologize.
It seems like I might need to screenshot this thread as well, before they delete it and try to pretend it never happened.
First off, I'm a mod. Not an Admin.
Second, that comment was made 4 months ago (The comment even says Stamets@Startrek.website, an account that's been deleted for nearly two months) and deleted almost immediately after posting because I felt like a dick. You even say as much because of the 'obvious toxicity'. This is true. I was trying to be a better person so I deleted it. Also, no. I didn't "start the toxic dogpiling". This is even proven by the comment directly under mine in that screenshot which is someone else calling you out. You also didn't make the post. You had commented on my post.
If you want an apology, all you ever had to do was ask. Something you have never done. I never offered one up because I didn't realize the app you are using kept deleted messages. I felt like a dick and deleted it. I never even realized you harbored this grudge considering, again, this is 4 months later and you've yet to address this to me directly. I just went through 5 months of your posting history and I cannot find a singular time that you talked to me about this. I went through my messages and I cannot find a single message from you about this.
I'm sorry. Wasn't my intention to hurt you which is why I deleted the comment immediately after. But I am not psychic and had no idea you felt this way. All you ever had to do was address this to me. I am genuinely sorry. I hope you have a good day and that things go well for you.
Edit: I forgot to respond to the last line.
How can we trust the admins here won’t do the same as what happened in Risa?
Risa was run by a singular moderator when we started setting up TenForward. That was a major point of failure. When I set up TenForward I asked multiple people to join, all of us with different stances and opinions, to make a more robust team. We generally run things past one another and if something comes up with someone elses behavior, we will address it. If we are heavy handed with our powers or the other mods disagree repeatedly, then we will step down or be removed. And if you want to report moderator abuse you can feel free to do so to the admins. You wouldn't be the first and they do take action. Startrek.website admins never cared about what USS BurritoTruck was doing despite being messaged by multiple people about the problems inherent to Risa.
First off, I’m a mod. Not an Admin.
Really? You felt it was important to start off with this tone on semantics?
Second, that comment was made 4 months ago
Why does that matter?
Also, no. I didn’t “start the toxic dogpiling”. This is even proven by the comment directly under mine in that screenshot which is someone else calling you out.
Your comment was the first reply.
You also didn’t make the post. You had commented on my post.
I never made that claim. Why even bring this up? Does it matter?
again, this is 4 months later and you’ve yet to address this to me directly.
Again, why does it matter that it was 4 months? What if it was 6 months? 4 weeks? 4 days? How does that change your actions?
This is what happened: You created a post. I made a harmless joke. You didn't like that joke and made a toxic comment. Other people didn't like that joke and joined in to make toxic comments. I called those people out for being toxic since my joke was aimed at no individual and completely harmless, and the backlash for that was all toxic comments aimed at me for just shooting my shot to make other people laugh. When I called people out for being toxic that included you which is why I had that screenshot and I even pinged you directly with it.
If you want an apology, all you ever had to do was ask. Something you have never done. I never offered one up because I didn’t realize the app you are using kept deleted messages. I felt like a dick and deleted it. I never even realized you harbored this grudge considering, again, this is 4 months later and you’ve yet to address this to me directly. I just went through 5 months of your posting history and I cannot find a singular time that you talked to me about this. I went through my messages and I cannot find a single message from you about this.
Why would I try to pursue you for an apology when I already pinged you and called you and everyone out at the place it happened? Instead I blocked you and the Risa community after plenty of evidence of toxicity.
I even mentioned this situation to The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website: https://lemmy.world/comment/5214666
I’m sorry. Wasn’t my intention to hurt you which is why I deleted the comment immediately after. But I am not psychic and had no idea you felt this way. All you ever had to do was address this to me. I am genuinely sorry. I hope you have a good day and that things go well for you.
How can I even take this apology seriously in the context of tone of this whole comment?
We can't. That's part of the reason I try really hard to avoid Lemmy.world
Well, actually you can. The admins of lemmy.world are far more responsive to actual criticism and will deal with abusive moderators. There have been more than one that has been removed due to their actions. The admins of Startrek.website didn't care at all and listened to zero criticism or feedback.
TenForward was also created because of the moderators not the admins, a very large distinction that needs to be made. When TenForward was initially created, we were on perfectly good terms with the admins, even if we didn't agree with them. At no point in the creation of this community were the admins a consideration.
