The Names of Thousands of Neo-Nazi Music Fans Just Got Leaked
The Names of Thousands of Neo-Nazi Music Fans Just Got Leaked
Thousands of purveyors of neo-Nazi tunes just had their day ruined by a crew of enterprising Scandinavian anti-fascists.
I love that some of these idiots used their work email addresses. I wonder if Full Care landscaping out of Louisville, Kentucky cares that their VP of Operations is a neo-nazi?
Ha, good!
Too bad you can't see who downvoted you, too... Need that leaked, as well.
You can. Sort of.
Lemmy does not provide it via the UI. But it does provide the info via federation. If you set up your own instance, other instances will happily share this info with you. The information is inconvenient to access, but not hidden or private.
Hey fascist lurkers: fuck everything about your fascist ideology. Stop being slaves to your overlords and fucking learn a thing.
You can think for yourselves, I promise. It may be hard and uncomfortable at first, but you’ll like yourself a lot more if you just put in a small bit of effort. You’re better than this.
If you look at the modlog I thought it was visible there.
Just shows what cowards Nazis are. Hide behind downvotes, never explain yourself.
Hey, I just downvoted you.
Edit: Nevermind, getting a network error.
Edit: It will let me upvote you. Interesting.
Someday
I've blocked all the nazis trying to engage with me saying nazis aren't bad so I'll just say this in a TLC and block more nazis when they reply -
It's funny that all the people calling ME evil for not considering the nuances of various people's nazi ideology..... Are the same people who think women should die for wearing jeans, and that people should die for having a different religion, or die for not sharing a skin tone...
Nazis are nazis are nazis. If your world view was so different, spoilers, you wouldn't identify with nazis. 🤷
FUCK NAZIS.
Your right to not tolerate intolerance.
There are people siding with Nazis and reporting this post for doxxing, lol
So wild that this is a hot take these days
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I like you, buddy.
Make Nazis Windchimes Again.
Also, just to see if they have even the tiniest bit of plausible deniability, I checked out Midgard's shop. There's overtly white supremacist shit ALL OVER the place.
It's not like these people accidentally supported a band with reprehensible beliefs behind the scenes. It's not like a totally normal music shop turned out to be a front for white supremacists. There's note even any serious argument about "separating art from the artist." The leak includes what people bought, and you can tell when someone bought overtly white supremacist music. And even if they didn't, and the band or album name doesn't give anything away, what's it doing at the Nazi store? Why isn't it streaming, or on Bandcamp, or self-distributed? These customers still had to know there's an obscure Nazis music store, what it's called and where to find it, confirm that it's a Nazi store the moment they went there, and still give them money and their address to place a mail order. Oh, some of them aren't native English speakers? Then that just makes it even more damning that they did all this with a language barrier in place!
Plus, just look at the apologists in this thread. They're fucking cowards. They can't just come out with their beliefs, so they're just asking questions, deflecting from the topic. One is concern trolling for the fundamental humanity of literal Nazis, despite the fact that the main fucking problem with Nazis is that they considered marginalized groups subhuman. Where's the concern there? Why the focus on the people who oppose Nazis rather than the Nazis themselves? Another one could barely resist giving the game away by saying they've been called a Nazi before because of their anti-immigrant positions.
The people defending this shop and its customers aren't serious people. They're dishonest, cowardly, and stupid.
Check Talia Levin's book, Culture Warlords. She spent a year undercover online as a far-right personality and wrote about the encounters she experienced. It was a rough time, clearly. She's in the punch-a-nazi camp and reading her book landed me there at the end.
You remind me of one of my friends who uses the word nazi so much it's basically lost all its weight
Imagine getting mad at someone saying Nazis are bad. I wouldn't be caught dead getting upset that someone was saying Nazis are bad, lmao
You remind me of apologists who argue somebody can't be a nazi even though they spout the ideology and use the language, because they aren't on record saying "I heart Hitler" three times in a mirror.
Nazis are obviously bad, but this comment makes me think that anyone you don't like/like their comments/replies, you consider a Nazi?
I think people who defend nazis, their right to believe in nazi ideology, and argue that nazis are overall fine people are nazis or nazi apologists which are equally unwelcome in my circles and consciousness. Sorry, I'm not going to feel bad for hurting nazi feelings.
You can reply to this and "um actually" all you want about nazis, but if you're pro-nazi, I'm gonna block you. Easy peasy.
Man, far right websites all seem to have shit infosec as a common thread along with racism and other assorted bigotry.
It's also because right-wing extremism goes unpunished while left-wing extremism gets you shot in the head.
Anti-intellectual people being incompetent? Say it ain't so!
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Exploit that and out then as the shit-stains they are.
All websites have shit infosec. It’s not a problem confined to the far right.
I found another one by posting this to Facebook
This is the kind of doxxing I can get behind.
AFA Sweden stands för Antifascistiskt Aktion, or Antifascist Action. Not Stockholm based as they claim, there are many groups.
Great job in leaning Midgard, they also regularly doxx Swedish Nazis on their main website.
Correction: The name of the Stockholm-based group is AFA Sweden, not AFA Stockholm.
They noticed :)
Nazis deserve no rights.
Music is an extremely important part of my life but there isn't a single band that would make me give money to neo-nazis.
I don't know why everyone is so eager to absolve them. If they have something to say in their defense, they can say it themselves.
I certainly wouldn't listen to Neo-Nazi music no matter how nice the tunes are, because I personally couldn't stand supporting literal fucking Nazis and listening to Nazi bullshit.
It's not like the Nazis are the only ones making music, there are countless good, leftist bands out there. There aren't slim pickings, there are oceans of good music out there.
Liberals on their way to defend literal nazis.
Maybe all of these people were just buying gifts for their neonazi friends and family
The only good nazi is a dead nazi. Gotta love how tech illiterate fascists are.
Shhh, Don't let them in on the secret.
Woot! Naming and shaming is great!
And then when they came for you.. joking no one intolerant enough to come for someone else was left.
When they didn't come for neo-nazis, neo-nazis came for you.
I don't know shit about this band/this type of music... is it actually the kind of music that only Nazis would listen to?
Like, if someone leaked a Pantera fan list, I guess I wouldn't be on the wagon to ruin all their lives, even though Pantera is pretty well known for racism, shouting White Power and Nazi sautes n shit.
if you didn't know about Pantera
Such a fucking shame learning about great music being made by terrible folks. Sooooo many rockers with controversy, be it racism, underage groupie fucking, or otherwise.
Thankfully there's no shortage of really talented people making awesome music these days. May need to dig around a bit, but my Spotify is an absolute labyrinth of more tunes than I can possibly get through. I've had to make annual playlists for every sub genre I'm into just to attempt to keep my archive manageable.
Yep. Lot of bands you'd like to support, to buy their music, later find out they are damn bigots, nazis, whatever asswipes you can find. Especially in the metal scene. Makes me sad
Extreme music is made by extreme people
This makes me incredibly sad.
Edit: seriously tho. I never wanted to believe the band members were racist or anything. The song Rise was always my go to to show people how inclusive they wanted to be. "Taught when we're young to hate one another, it's time to have a new reign of power. Make pride universal so no one gives in, turn out backs on those who oppose"
I always thought that song especially was saying "we must not hate one another. We must all be proud of who we are and turn our backs on those who continue to hate." I may need to do some deeper thinking about it all. I have not listened to them in many years. Dimebag dying legit hurt.
Phil Anselmo did a nazi salute. This made me sad. But the band didn't market themselves as nazis or write songs that praised nazism or overt racism. I wouldn't mind if someone knew that I own all their albums (except the one where they were apparently a hair band; I never saw that in stores when I was buying CDs). They didn't make nazi music, so I can defend it.
I won't send money their way because of the nazi salute. That I can also defend.
Oh yeah, I'm not trying to blame a fan base over the actions of a group/artist. I also don't know what type of music the original post is about. Maybe they do make music thats like "we are Nazis and so are you if you sre listening" and then I'd probably be understanding of consequences of being fans.
But that Nazi salute is definitely not the only documented racism by Pantera members, and I'm sure you know that.
That doesn't make their fans racist imo
Ya love to see it.
The new No-Hire list just dropped.
I live in the larger city right next to the town/urban area where the Midgård company is located. I had only vaguely heard about them before and didn't know where they operated from. I found a disturbing amount of people living very close to me (geographically) that are in the register. I'll be sure to spread this and hope to get them to be known nazis by most people around here. Absolute filth... I haven't been able to go through the whole list yet, but I both really hope and really hope not to find someone I know on it. It would be nice to blow up the life of someone like this, but at the same time, it would suck to find out that it's someone you know. I'm very left leaning, and so are most people in my life, and in this country, my city and especially my part of the city in general, but it's of course impossible to really know stuff like this about everyone you come in contact with.
Going to follow this closely and really wish to see some nazi fucks get found out by others around them and have consequences rain down on their pathetic lives.
If you downvoted this comment, you're a fucking piece of shit. I hope your name is in this list or another and that you get found out and shamed.
So are they "Neo-Nazi music" fans or Neo-Nazis who are music fans?
Yes.
I mean, lots of fascists seem to like RATM because they never thought about the lyrics. I don't know if that phenomenon goes both ways, but I'd imagine there's probably at least one Neo-Nazi song out there with a slappin bass line. It probably mostly sounds like bad metal or generic 90s grunge if I had to guess, though.
They are Neo (from the Matrix) who are Nazi Music fans
Is one Nazi better than the other?
Oscar Schindler existed, so yes.
Yo if you're a nazi you've already accepted being a complete piece of shit so you can simply fuck off and die
Surely the rest of us can assist them
Ha ha.
-Nelson
Weird. Lots of purchasers in Japan. All have Japanese-looking names, but who knows if some of those are real.
Isn't Japan extremely socially conservative?
Some Asian countries also have a weird thing for Hitler.
https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/southeast-asia-s-weird-fascination-hitler
In many ways yes. Japan has its own brand of racial superiority which is why I just found it a bit weird they're going for nazi shit. It could also just be that they heard and liked a song, but I kinda doubt that this is the case.
Japan is conservative in the sense that anyone that isn't Japanese can go get fucked. How many Japanese neo-nazis are also multilingual to understand the lyrics? This seems less like nazis in Japan and just people who found music they didn't hate.
I understand that Japan's youth displays a lot of Hitler and Nazi stuff. Not that they're Nazis or haters, they just think it's funny or something? Kinda like clueless American kids sporting Che Guevera shirts and posters?
Are there more lists like that?
See Unicorn Riot's torrent of internal data stolen from Patriot Front, fascists in the US. Hey, I'm sharing that download on a perpetual basis. I have a gig link uploading, so grab that fucking data.
Wait, I happen to have the link. Check this out!
Implying you couldn't figure out by meeting them. I'm guessing just like people who listen to Christian music these people are loud and proud. Probably have SS tattoos on their neck. Unless it's actually decent music and random listeners just got doxxed as Nazis.
incredible amounts of nazi-treat-defending in this thread. wish I could say I'm surprised but, of course, I'm not.
Reminder, Lemmy Kilmister collected nazi memorabilia. It might not be as deep as you think. Half the time metal with neo nazi themes just sounds like a bunch of dinosaures yelling.
There's a difference between Motorhead, the Sex Pistols, and someone like Slayer who all used Nazi imagery to provoke in a problematic way and bands that claim to be part of the National Socialist Black Metal scene. I mean... I can't understand the lyrics on an Absurd record without the lyric sheet, but the giant blank sun in their artwork is a dead giveaway
Just searched "band absurd" and found artwork with a sonnenrad. Fuck Absurd.
Sorry, are you saying that Lemmy probably was into Nazis beyond collecting their stuff or that that's as far as his interests went?
No he wasn't, Gene Simmons even got into a big fight with him about it.
Fantastic news!
Fascistish news you mean!
lol
I love your username
How did the neonazi music shop get their customers SSNs?
Like ultra conservatives, most neonazis probably aren't real smart
Most likely its a payment plan for purchases. Klarna is a company where you can delay payment and such. They are a third party connection, so I believe a webshop will not know that is input on Klarnas end. But who knows how Midtgård does in their checkout process...
as a Norse pagan, i want to kick every last one of these freaks in the dick. we need to work even harder to get these braindead removed away from our spaces. a reminder to all our other pagan friends: if you let a cockroach into your home, it will nest.
I once went to a pagan pride festival and noticed that the vendor with Norse stuff had "No Nazis" signs up. Up to that point, I didn't know that Nazis had infiltrated Norse paganism. It sucks and it makes me worry about my daughter's boyfriend who is really into Norse pagan stuff. I hope I have raised her well enough that she will punch him in the dick if he starts in on any neo-Nazi shit.
now all band together, let's make bullying kill itself...
I didn't know neo-Nazi music was a thing. I've heard "Springtime for Hitler" but that was supposed to be parody.
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Why is do they never explain what makes it neo nazi.
Neo = new
Nazi = Nazi
So, they’re not the old nazis, but they’re still flying swastikas and preaching the destruction of “inferior races”
This whole thing is disgusting. Nazis suck. So do people calling for violence or removal of rights from literally any human. Buncha Nazis in here, just against a kind of person it's ok to be horrible to.
This is actually a philosophical problem. I think it's the parable of pacifism, if I remember right? Basically, the advocacy for total pacifism and acceptance of all groups doesn't work if one group is specifically advocating for the death of the others because then there's a net loss.
So yes. No nazis. Period.
It's called the "Paradox of Tolerance" if we are tolerant of all including the intolerant than intolerance will eventually win out and eliminate tolerance, therefore society should not tolerate the intolerant.
It's the paradox of tolerance and it's bullshit. Daryl Davis has converted more KKK members talking to them than anyone has with a fist.
Edit to add: killing Nazis doesn't defeat fascism. You can kill people with weapons, but words are the armaments of ideas. You want to kill an idea, it's through words.
In the Spirit of Musk‘s and other fascist‘s idea of free speech, here is the searchable database: https://midgard.antifa.se/register/
Oh wow it has room for social insurance numbers now that's what I call doxxing
Seems like it's being hugged to death at the moment.
They should offer a JSON download of the thing so it can spread far and wide and we all won't have to go on the website....
Someone share it on that shitty site. I would, but I don’t have an account. Let Lonnie’s town square do its job.
Dang. Already needs a mirror. Won't load after only a few hours.
Thank you.