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Me enjoying a movie does in no way exclude it from being a bad movie.
Seeing as I do enjoy watching bad movies. Terrible acting, bad cuts, awful dialog. I love it.
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Terrible acting, bad cuts, awful dialog. I love it.
I think there's a certain "The Producers" threshold beyond which a merely bad piece of art becomes a captivating car-wreck. But it's an esoteric mix of elements. For every "Rocky Horror Picture Show" there's a dozen "Mac and Me"s.
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This is why I love Nicolas Cage films. But they're intentionally bad, campy and corny as an anti style.
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I love bad movies so much
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Oh, Hi Mark
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Must be nice to be able to just completely switch off your brain like that.
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Good movies are self-aware. Not everything needs to be a masterpiece of acting and cinematography, or have the best effects, or the best writing. But they have to know what they are. I don't mean breaking the fourth wall or self-deprecating humor. More like understanding their limits.
The people making Sharknado knew they were doing a campy action film (series) with sharks in tornadoes. Fun Movie. Would watch again.
M. Night Shyamalan is a great writer and director, but a lot of his films have a feeling of over-dramatized self-importance, where it seems like he really wants you to know how clever he is. So they get panned.
Chrisopher Nolan (I think) puts similar importance on symbols and archetypes with a dramatic and artistic style, but his movies have a feel of like "I don't give a shit if you get it, just enjoy the ride." He makes good films.
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Zak Snyder makes AMAZING visuals and set pieces.
He can kinda string together the main bits of a plot, but the dude can’t write to save his life.
Rebel Moon had the ingredients for a decent 7 samurai sci-fi thing. But holy fuck did he go so far style over substance with it that all the substance was left out 😆
Same with JJ Abrams, dude makes good visuals and can start a mystery box plot like very few can.
But for the love of all that’s holy, don’t let him decide what’s in the box.
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Zak Snyder makes AMAZING visuals and set pieces.
I have never been able to set the brightness high enough to see them though.
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George Lucas can do world building that's a kilometre wide and a millimetre deep.
So many things that hint at depth: space ship models that are dirty, droids that are both futuristic but also somehow junky. Quick turns of phrase that make something seem both alien and familiar, like "moisture farming". But, it seems like in all his world building he's never once asked himself "Why?"
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The movie itself doesn't even have to be aware of it. You just need some link back to it.
Take Street Fighter, The Three Musketeers, or Robin Hood Prince of Thieves. Absolute dog shit, all three of them. But then an actor appears who knows exactly what he's in. All villains in these cases. They know it's bad. It's a pantomime. Amateur hour all over the place. The script is awful, the leads can't act, half of them are snorting coke between takes, or getting drunk. They've been here before.
But they've decided that they're going to enjoy it anyway, and now, so can you.
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That's absolutely true.
And one of the many reasons Hotel was the greatest season of American Horror Story. Everyone, but especially Evan Peters, seemed to be having the best time. It felt like good theater.
And, of course, every muppet movie.
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the leads can't act
Hey! I'll have you know that Jean-Claude Camille François Van Varenberg (better known as Jean-Claude Van Damme) CAN act!
He was just too humble to show anyone until 2008!
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but his movies have a feel of like "I don't give a shit if you get it, just enjoy the ride." He makes good films.
This is very clear when he made Tenet, which i quite like it but a confusing maze. Heck i'm pretty sure 80% of the people doesn't really understand what the heck is that even about.
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I'm convinced he's trying to see if there's a limit to how many mental backflips an audience can take before they start to reign him in.
But before Tenet there was Primer, and it was a cult hit.
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Where are you getting your movies? Very few people are just raw-dogging random titles off a database. You mean you kinda enjoyed the movie that the Netflix algorithm showed you? Funny enough, I had almost this exact same argument with a friend the other day about how she "doesn't believe there's any bad movies."
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I go to my favorite piracy source and look at new releases. Its like sorting by New+All on Lemmy :)
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Man that hypothesis should be pretty easy to find a provide a counterexample for.
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Mortal Kombat Annihilation close up shots flips into your tv. The Director: More flips! Tighter shots! Flip! No continuity on haircuts or story or even muddy clothes. Just flip. Somersault! Get some ninjas in here with the flipping!
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I mean hey, if you have low standards, and you're completely honest about it, nothing wrong with that... and it also puts the onus on the people with higher standards to actually explain why they do or do not like any given movie, easier to suss out the people who don't actually have consistent standards, but instead just have an amalgamation of their favorite influencers opinions.
Win win win as I see it. I'm a bit of a movie snob, and I can explain why I do or don't like a movie...
But I am also self-aware enough to realize that other people have other standards, and 90% of the time, if there isn't some utterly reprehnsible trope or caricature or very very misleading depiction of real events in a 'based on a true story' type thing... eh, whatever, we have different tastes, wanna get pizza?
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Critical thinking is an endangered practice.
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Media literacy is a threat to a lot of production houses' business models
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dude is stuck at a toddler level
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I mean, I can certainly tell whether a movie is objectively good or bad while watching it, but that rarely correlates with my enjoyment of the movie. I can separate "this is really badly made/has bad writing/is a ridiculous premise" and "this is a fun distraction from the daily routine".
I kind of feel like being unable to make that separation and not being able to enjoy movies that are "bad" must be an exhausting and miserable experience.
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I was about to say, I remember watching movies in childhood that I enjoyed the experience of, but did not take on board. It was a series of lights and sounds. I rate those films Stimuli/10.
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Good movie: the one you enjoy
Bad movie: the one you don't
Simple as that, my metric of scoring isn't good or bad, it's whether i enjoy it or whether it annoy me. I pick what i watch and will go through review and score so most of the time i know i gonna enjoy it, but sometime an outlier will pops up. I'm still not over how annoyed i am for 28 Weeks Later.
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That assumes that enjoyment is the only metric, which is common, but not universal.
Some people can think the movie is of high quality, but the subject matter isn't for them, as an example.
Think of it like food:
Good food: the food you enjoy
Bad food: the food you don’t
Unless you're basing good and bad on how "healthy" the food is (for whatever given metric of health you want to use)
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And that assuming "enjoyment" is a single metric, because in the matter of fact, it's an overall score with the combination of everything the critics use. If i like it i like it, figuring it out why and justify it is part of the critics job.
If you wanna translate that into food, then the good food will taste good and bad food will taste horrible.
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What you're saying makes sense except that's not what OOP was talking about. They weren't asking what definition of "quality" to use.
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Movies can be fun bad tbh. They can have cheap budgets, horribly low quality CGI, but still be a fun watch.
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Yea but this is telling the difference beyween a good and bad movie
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Modern comedies have nothing on movies like asteroid-a-geddon, the shark side of the moon, or even the velocipastor.
Those movies slaps and are a guaranteed laugh!
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Valocipastor is a bona fide masterpiece. Quietly confident that the sequel will also be fun.
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Sharknado is also an all time classic
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Mario Bros. Dune.
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Sounds like 10% of the time you did not have fun watching a movie. That's a bad movie.
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Sometimes bad movies are fun to watch.
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'So bad it's good' is one of my favorites. But you have to be prepared going into it. If you start a 'so bad it's good' film wanting something decent, you'll be disappointed. If you go in planning to enjoy the terrible, ridiculous, and ridiculous and/or banality, you'll probably enjoy it. If that's your thing.
My favorites of this genre are 'Hobo with a shotgun', 'Dead Snow' (sequel is actually good), and 'rubber'.
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Madame Web was actually so fun to hate watch. Take a shot every time she opens a soda.
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They implied that they had no fun though.
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Yeah, there are good bad movies and bad bad movies.
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Yes if you change the definition of "bad", but there's a name for that logical fallacy.
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Huh. 90% of the time I'm like "this is a bad movie"
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I'm the exact opposite. I struggle to get through 90% of movies regardless of how good people think they are, especially since they only keep getting longer and longer.
Hell, the only movies I can get through are the ones that are so bad they're actually interesting
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Congrats, you’re sane. Most entertainment media is objectively bad. That’s just statistically undeniable. Unless you think everyone is a good writer and storyteller.
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Just want to let you know that I enjoyed watching your edits update in real time
Also there's something to be said for taste. Some people just want action and flashing lights, an exciting distraction from life. Other people (I include myself) want interesting and well-written stories that make you feel and think. Part of the problem is that major production studios don't want to take a risk on a new kind of story or writing style and keep pushing out whatever formula they've recently seen get sales. Marvel is a prime example. Almost every movie feels exactly the same, except a few characters and personalities change.
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I haven't watched a movie in months. I think it's just not for everyone.
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I 100% get this and I think a lot of people are missing the point. It's like going to a football game without knowing the rules, which team is better, or who is winning and having fun anyway. It's not having fun watching people suck because shitty football can be funny.
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Some movies (Marvel, Fast and Furious, Transformers) are Pepperoni Pizza. They are not a 7 course dining experience because THEY DIDNT SET OUT TO BE!
If you sit down to a pizza and tell me its the worst soup you ever had, you're a dumbass.
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I don't think this is proving the point that the people who say this want it to make. If you're trying to champion what the movie is trying to be, then that's one thing. (i.e. Marvel movies want to be fun, fast paced, action packed, and humorous)
But championing what a movie is not trying to be doesn't really work. For example, saying that a movie isn't trying have the traits that make a movie good (pacing, plot, framing, blocking, cut speed, color grading, etc), especially when all those elements are present simply by virtue of the medium.
That's like saying a watch isn't broken just because it doesn't tell time. You can like a broken watch. It can be a fun fashion accessory. It can have a pleasing design or be comfortable on the wrist. But it still doesn't tell time. And thats not a dig on those who like it, it's just a true statement about the watch.
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It's not even about does this movie live up to the hype or type of movie or does it tell the story well. It's there is a giant tv in front of me, stuff is happening on it, I'm with friends, there are snacks, I'm not even sure who's who, what's going on, or even what language this is in, but I enjoyed doing that we are doing this thing. It's just the entertainment clears the absolute lowest bar. And I had fun doing that. The 10% not enjoying it is if something takes away from that like being sick or them being out of milk duds.
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I'm exactly like that, but the other way around. 90 % of the movies I watch I don't enjoy. Mayhap it's just not my medium. Makes the 10 % I did enjoy realy worth it tough.
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Depression is one factor, but I also realized that what Hollywood thinks a "relatable" character is is very far from who I am as a person.
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Film is a medium that is truly coming to its technical maturity while also being at or near the absolute height of our artistic powers as a civilization. That's why it really sucks that at that same moment, studios are more risk-adverse and money driven than ever.
I didn't want to be a film snob, but I feel like I have to go indie these days to see anything worth my time.
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Right?!? Another thing is that plot lines are reused a lot. Often movies feel so very shallow and to me.
The most recent movie I likes a lot was "Everything Everywhere All at Once". That felt like something unique to me.
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If the movie is not Extremely Good™ (or better), I get extremely irritated and will walk out of the theater or click on something else. Just feels like a huge waste of time
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Enshrining illiteracy is a proud American tradition.
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Right? Is there something in big macs that makes people anti intellectual?
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I too have no media literacy
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To have no opinion other than gratefulness is... Concerning.
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Hey, one of my cringe memories that randomly pops up when I try to go to sleep!
"So what did you think, pretty good right?"
"Ahahah what??? No, it was shit!"
It was Wild Things, feel free to confirm that it was indeed shit.
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Prime Neve Campbell and Denise Richard’s topless.
It was objectively great.
Unless, for some reason, you don’t like boobs.
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Also, if memory serves its actually a modernized version of Shakespeare or someone like that, so there's a hilariously high brow joke of "yeah, people thought his plays were trashy when they first came out too" thing going on with that one, but you don't actually need to get that to be entertained by it
e; I misremembered so I'll just quote the wiki page
Literary scholar John Thorburn notes that Wild Things is loosely based on several figures in Greek tragedies, namely Medea, whom he describes the character of Suzie as a "modern-day version of."[5] He also notes that Kelly functions as a Phaedra-like figure, while Sam exemplifies both Jason and Hippolytus.[6] Thorburn suggests that the film's "most under-appreciated element is screenwriter Stephen Peters’s obvious debt to classical mythology, tragedy and, especially, two Euripidean plays, Medea (431 BC) and Hippolytus (428 BC).[7] Suzie is met by police, Duquette and Perez, while reading Death on the Installment Plan.
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I was 15 when it came out so yeah that checks out :)
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Watch both Judge Dress films to understand the difference between a good film and a bad one.
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This is why I hardly ever recommend movies.
My criteria pretty much boils down to "did it hold my attention" during the runtime?"
A "good" movie holds my attention An "ok" movie doesn't hold my atttention 100% A "bad" movie 'pushes' my attention away
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By that metric, 2001 is an "atrocious" movie. 🥴
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Imo most movies are kind of bad and I usually regret watching them.
But I kinda feel like this is because I can easily think of other things I would have had more fun spending that time on. So it's a tangible loss to me.
FWIW I keep watching movies because I have seen a few that makes the pursuit worth it.
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Did u have fun is one part of good. So is did it make u think deeply about something, was it pretty, was the dialogue good, did it give u a new perspective, did it make u feel something. Etc etc
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We've got a community on mastodon called monsterdon that watches bad movies for fun. Just search the hashtag, main event is Sunday nights but there's some spinoffs.
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Yeah fam!!?! Anyone who wants to get a sense of what those movies are like, check out these posts on bmoviebonanza, they include links to the relevant movies (on tubi or youtube).
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I did a Final Destination marathon recently to prep for Bloodlines.
While all the movies have their flaws and weaknesses, FD4 was garbage. Even as a easy to please person I couldn't handle it.Genuinely terrible, I am shocked they wanted it to be the last one in the franchise, to the point they called it "The Final Destination"
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This is exactly why we mainly get dogshit by people with nothing to say or any life experience.
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So do they also just enjoy jingling keys for 2 hours?
Like it's not that hard. You enjoy it or you don't and everyone has a criteria on what's good or not.
Some people like to think about high concept stuff and a good movie gets their moral queries up.
Some like professionalism and it's about shot compositions and good editing.
Some want jokes and as long as they laugh it's good.
Some like Neil Breen stuff that's none of the above.
Truly exceptional movies usually are able to satisfy multiple groups of people and also may get you interested in lines of thought or art that is in a different realm than your normal standard of quality.Saying you turn off your brain and have no concept other than colors make time pass is beyond a lack of critical thought.
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Books are good when you don't realise you are reading.
Any film that makes you realise you are watching a film (bad sets, acting, dialog etc.) is bad.
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Sometimes, it's more important that you enjoy the thing than the thing being objectively good. There is merit to objectively analyzing things, and there can be enjoyment found in doing so. There is also merit to just enjoying the thing you like. Both are valid.
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Right, I'm not gonna say something is good if I hate it, that defeats the whole point of reviews!
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The Room is considered a movie so bad it's good, but if it turned out that Tommy knew what he was doing the whole time, would that make it just a good movie?
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No, I don't think so. Whether it happened by accident or on purpose is a different measure, but the end result is the same, a movie that is so lacking in qualities that would normally be associated with a "good" movie that it is remarkable. I have heard of plenty of people that don't like it when movie makers intentionally try to make a movie that is "so bad it's good", but I've never heard anyone accuse those movies of being regular old "good".
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Normally it doesn't work because they end up trying too hard and it feels like it's not taking itself seriously (which can still be fine and works for parody movies like Scary Movie), but the Room feels like an honest attempt to make one of the greats that completely missed the (oh hi) mark. It's the combination of earnestness and awkwardness that makes it so entertaining to watch, like a car crash in slow motion.
If it weren't for seeing other works of his that also capture that same feeling (but it comes off a bit more forced... Can't remember the name but he plays a building manager and it's a series rather than a movie), I wouldn't even suspect that he did it on purpose and figured out how to bottle that lightning.
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I had this exact train of thought when I was eighteen and ended up building a career and a half on top of that particular crisis.
I was going to say no regrets, but... you know, some regrets?
I can tell when a movie is good now, though.
Weirdly, that somehow became a huge political problem on the Internet and ended up killing democracy. I guess that's one of the regrets.
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Wait, are you saying you invented social media to learn more about assessing the quality of films/media? 😅
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Oh, no, I wish. If democracy was gonna get destroyed anyway I may as well have gotten paid.
No, it's just that when I was studying all the stuff about criticism, public opinion, semiotics and all that jazz nobody cared about it, it was a weird thing for nerds who had an existential crisis after watching The Truman Show or whatever.
And then the whole thing became the core of a mainstream culture war that resulted in the second coming of fascism. In academia they looked at all the data from the first rise of fascism as a weird historical artifact of runaway extremism and then boom, we're all right back in it. You guys are just living history, but for people in this space this is fucking Jurassic Park. They spent years preparing to calmly brush off dust from buried bones and then you blink and everybody is feeding branches to the brontosauruses and getting eaten by the raptors. It's just not what you signed up for.
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i can enjoy a movie i think is objectively bad and vice versa.
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Agreed. Especially with ritualistic movies like cult classics and holiday movies. The experience surrounding them is more important than the content.
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Enjoying a movie, having fun watching it, is not an indication of its quality. It is acceptable to enjoy bad movies, nothing wrong with that, I've watched plenty of movies I consider as bad but still had fun and a nice time watching them.
Defining the quality of a movie by the enjoyment you had is like defining the quality of a painting by how realistic it is. A painting might be good even if it is surreal, unrealistic or abstract, and a realistic painting might be crap, so the quality of the painting is not tied to simply how realistic it is. The same way there are movies that are fun and enjoyable but not "good", and there are movies that bore most people and are a master piece.
While with a painting defining the quality is simpler (simpler yes, but not simple) as it is the creation of one person normally, for movies it gets incredibly complex as there's so much to measure and its the work of so many people; the script, the acting, the photography, the score, the directing, the stunts, makeup and dressing, FX, ... There's a lot that can be good and a lot that can be bad in the same movie.
At least that has always been my perspective, I have no issues admitting to not liking something despite how good it was, and loving something that I knew was not good. Some examples that come to mind: I love the matrix movies, love watching them, yes, in plural, that doesn't mean the second and third are good. It feels like there were too many issues in them to make them good, but I still had a good time watching them. On the other hand, I feel like a movie like 2001 is of unquestionable quality, yet I always feel somewhat bored watching it and would rather do something else.
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Don't have fun = bad movie.
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Know how to tell of a person is a movie snob? They'll tell you.
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First of all, the term is actually ‘cinephile’. And second… 😄
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There are good movies, and then there is Popeye The Slayer Man. Nothing in between for me.
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I'm often very enamored by camera work, type of shot and things like how they translate certain things to film with limited options.
Especially when it's Drama related and has to do with heavier emotions or things like disorders and other issues.
But usually i'm just a: "watched movie, had fun" kinda guy.
I watched a stoner movie a while back about some guys that got stranded in their van and hotboxed their asses back or forward(can't remember) 30 years...as an avid non drug user i had fun but i did think it was a shit movie tho.
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Being I watch plenty of bad movies I have sorta the reverse. 90% of the time im like, did I just waste two hours of my life.
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so its sorta funny but I feel this comic applies to my reply on this. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1673201256-20230108.png
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I think the only movie rating a entirely agreed with was Thor: Ragnarok being awesome and Thor: love and thunder sucking ass.
Also the wakanda cat man movie was AWESOME.
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wakanda cat man
I mean, you're technically not wrong, but that's what stuck out to you?
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I think most movies are dogshit, but the bad ones are fun to riff on with my friends.
My criteria for what makes a good movie seem straight forward to me, but apparently I ask too much as shown by the vast majority of movies being frustratingly bad.
I can suspend disbelief for lore and character, but not for blatantly dumb decision making, plot holes, or forcing a story event. Entire plot lines based on simple misunderstandings ruin stories immediately for me, as do hamfisted agenda pushing, or stories hinging on "common knowledge" that's known bullshit. (Looking at whatever that movie was a few years back that started with the narrator stating we only use 10% of our brains, fuck off.)
Horror movies have their own indurating problems, which is too bad since it's my favorite genre when done well. For some reason, people always act like they're in a horror movie. Gotta check something in the basement? Better walk slow and look nervous, it's not totally unreasonable for someone to be afraid of their own fucking basement. Or the polar opposite, everything is fine no matter what, and I'm sure the several missing people are just playing a prank.
Can this problem be solved with simple communication? We better find some bullshit way to get rid of cell phones. uh, the battery died. Uh, ghosts aliens and monsters block signals. Uh the antagonists is a tech expert who jams phones. Uh, they're in the woods, there's no signal. (I've been in the woods, there's a signal.) Or they just decide to give up and base the plot in the 80s.
Lazy writing, in other words.
This took too long and I've lost interest in my rant, but I'll post it anyway.
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I hate going into a movie with expectations. That’s the quickest way to end up hating it. Even if I might be a fan and am looking forward to a particular film’s release. It’s far easier just to go in to a film with few expectations. Things that make a movie “bad” for me are: bad acting, bad writing, bad effects, or bad plot contrivances. IOW, something so egregious it pulls me out of enjoying what I’m watching and draws my attention to it.
For example - the new Star Wars films. They were fine for a cast of relative unknowns. Yeah, they had some heavy handed writing in spots that was bad, the worst being the pointless casino and kid scenes in the last one. But regardless it was fun. The previous three otoh had a stellar cast yet some of the worst wooden acting, writing, and the abuse of digital SFX was offensive.
(Best SW film made was Rogue One, IMO, tied with ANH because that introduced us to the franchise and had no baggage.)
Of course this is all movie dependent. Spoofs and the like or comedy are entirely different vs something like a drama. One won’t be held to a high standard, the other will need it to keep the audience engaged.
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I have pretty low standards. I enjoy a good schlockfest. That said, the new Star Wars movies were awful. Genuinely awful. I watched the first two out of some sort of misguided loyalty to the franchise and hated almost every minute of both. Rey is possibly the blandest frontwomen in any movie, ever. She does nothing to earn her Jedi powers, and even less with them. Kylo Ren is a whiny baby with daddy issues. The first sequel tries so hard to be A New Hope, but just has none of the charisma or charm. It's sad.
I did like Luke's last stand, but there was so much else wrong with that movie, it was like putting fresh whipped cream on a cake made of shit. It's been years now, and I've barely considered watching the third at all. I don't think I have heard someone say a single good thing about it.
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You could certainly skip the third. I hate to say it, the movies would probably be better without Ren and Rey.
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I'm trying to remember which ones I've seen, I think Rouge One and the first one with Rey? I remember the casino scene and horse thing rescue, which seemed just a bizarre thing to randomly throw in.
My brother went and saw Solo, and said it wasn't terrible, just pointless.
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This is more an arthouse thing for me, as if the story becomes completely incoherent I just assume it’s expressionism and I’m being challenged.
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It's pretty easy. There are bad movies, like Star Wars: The Last Jedi and most Marvel movies. Then, there are good movies like Waterworld, Demolition Man, and Battlefield Earth.
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There are good movies like Star Wars, and there are bad movies... like Star Wars :D
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Ain't it the truth!
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I love movies like Battlefield Earth and Showgirls, there's just something about them y'know?
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I haven't seen Showgirls, but I think i know what you mean
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eh. Obvious troll is obvious.
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Nah, I'm serious. You'll find several instances of me professing my love of Battlefield Earth and Waterworld in my comment history. As well as my disdain for Last Jedi.
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Sounds like someone who never watched House of the Dead in theatres.
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I think a lot of movies fall into that category tbh it takes a lot of qualities to stack up for the movie to be bad or good and most fall somewhere in the middle
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Honestly, that is what matters. There's something to be said about "cinema" versus "movies" lol, not everything needs to have mass appeal to be good, but I think a lot of people rate things high even when they hate it and that's bullshit.
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So we're going to ignore the assholes that talk in the theater too huh?
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Dude just watch the room and you will get it
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This used to be me. I enjoyed pretty much everything I watched. I figured, since a lot of people put a ton of time, effort, and money into making a film, it must have at least some redeeming qualities. No one trusted my opinion on films because I "loved everything."
It wasn't until I watched a ton of movie reviews from various reviewers that I started to be able to tell the difference between a good film and a bad film. Now I'm pretty critical of films, and even made a review blog to discuss what I like and dislike about certain films.
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That's why I watch video essays that are longer than the actual movie and explain why it's bad instead of watching the movie
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Yes. This is why I hate movie critics. Your PhD in post romantic Spanish literature does not qualify you to make a determination if the power rangers movie was good or not.
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I get you bro
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And that's awesome!
But please, don't rate the movies you watch 9/10. For those of us who watch most movies, an average of 90% is inarguable insane.
I'm so moved by this post that it consider writing a review of 5/10. Fortunately, I don't have enough to say to reach that IMDb character limit so 7/10 and no comment.
Oh and tv shows...if you're giving every episode 9/10, please stop, some of us are watching these things a decade later and it's best to know if it's actually worthy a 9.
That's also when reviews come in handy, because the reviews become our research. We don't write review for you, don't take it personally.
It's ok to be baffled. Some of us are used to seeing out the answer rather than post our brain droppings.
Turns out I had more to say than I thought.
✅ No spoilers.
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Why do you believe your opinion to be worth more than theirs?
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I mean, some people's opinion might be actually worth more than others. Subjectively there's people in my life I watch every movie they reccomend and there's people whom I don't take recs from anymore after the tenth shitty ass movie they say "I totally have to watch"
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Funny, I think about how I’ve just been propagandized by a billionaire hollywood movie mogul.
But yeah, “fun” wheeee!
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there are plenty of indie low budget fun and dumb movies I remember liking this one https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blood_guts_bullets_and_octane
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With the same logic there's no good food and bad food, might as well eat mud if it makes hunger go away. Drink your piss, yay thirst gone! Live under bridge, yay no rain! Work 60 hour weeks get minimum wage, yay you're contributing to society woohoo
Good rage bait tweet, twat. You got me.
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Damn, dude. I think they just meant it's okay to enjoy stuff that's not the very best sometimes.
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I agree that one can enjoy going to the movies and dislike the film at the same time, if that's what this dude is saying he's got a weird way of saying it. But I love the positivity of your take
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Whether you had fun and the quality of the movie are not entirely related.
Says who? Is the whole point of movies not for you to have fun?
In the same sense the point of food is to get you full. There's more nuance to it.
Children of Men, good movie, not fun
Some movies are intentionally not fun, because their message isn't about fun things.
Leaving Las Vegas isn't fun.
Nah movies are ranked on a set of objective criteria such variety and use of color, the use of varied angles, runtime:budget ratio, and so on. Technically speaking the best movies are usually produced by accidentally dropping a cellphone from a hot air balloon
Evolution (2001) is an objectively bad movie.
It is also one of my all time favorites because it's fun and doesn't take itself too seriously.
Schindler's List is an objectively good movie. It is decidedly not fun.
I think you should read my previous comment again.
One can have fun watching a bad movie. One can have no fun watching a good movie.
Schindler's List is not a fun movie.
Movies are art, the point of art is to elicit emotion. If a movie does that, it's probably a good movie.
Imo if it's fun then it's good, but being fun isn't the only path to "goodness". Lots of good movies out there that are the opposite of fun
Having fun is always a valid reason to watch a movie. And making a fun movie is a valid pursuit.
Buuuut at the same time movies can be more than just fun and some people really want that.
Expecting a movie to be more than just fun can lead to let downs.
Tl;Dr people take movies too seriously
Dancer in the Dark
No idea why you’re getting downvoted. Did all the lemmings forget how to experience joy? If you like the art, it’s good art. That’s the whole point.
Often times I find that highly rated movies aren't fun to watch. They follow the 'good movie' formula and it shows. I really only like comedy and action movies, personally, but don't want every movie to follow the hero's journey. I don't need them all to be the tale of an underdog who really has the greatest power. I don't need the camera framing to hint at who the antagonist is.
I just want to see the girl and her dog defeat Predator or James MacAvoy's beastly terror in Split. If they happen to also include some of the formula, that's okay but it certainly isn't what made the movie good to me.