Lady regrets voting for Trump after her terminally ill, undocumented father is detained.

Selfish people. Its still a me me me attitude, but now she wants everyone else to come and do what she wants to get what she wants.

I'd put money on the fact that if put in a situation where she was asked to help someone else's family first she would say "But what about MY father!?"

Its still a me me me attitude
I don't know why I read that in Italian accent.
- Now I'm reading his entire post as Mario
- It's-a me 🤌 me🤌 me 🤌

At least for once one of them actually seems to regret their vote. Fuck her anyway though, they only care when it personally affects them directly. You voted for this to happen to everyone else, turns out that includes you and your family too, so:

It's really sad that we practically have to forgive them if we want to progress as a society. Because I agree with your sentiment...
But
We can't exterminate them. They are gonna live here on the other side of this, whatever that looks like. Those who have a genuine change and see not just that trump was wrong, but that they were either wrong or very very gullible should be forgiven and accepted as allies. We're gonna need all the people we can get on our side through what's coming.
"We tried to warn you. Welcome to the resistance."
Scrolled down 2 pages to find and upvote this.

We needed that 8 months ago when you knowingly voted against it.

Now YOU want it.

Enjoy those tears, you earned them.

At the same time, extending that hand is what will help. If a person is able to go "omg NOW I get it" and then the door is shut in their face, that will foster even more resentment.
Some people wont change, but those that are willing should be accepted.
- Ugh but they suck so bad...
  Jokes aside, how can we trust people that have already displayed such selfishness? How can we trust they won't continue to work against the group interest the second their goal is no longer aligned with ours?
- This fully grown legal adult didn't have self awareness 8 months ago, I doubt they're going to suddenly develop it. If you are nice or sympathetic to them, you just reinforce their beliefs that they are the victim and everyone should care about them the most.
  I'm sympathetic to her father. She can kick rocks. I have no sympathy for her.
- In the absense of four prior years and quite specific intentions stated clearly of enacting these very policies I'd agree with you. The only revelation here is them finding the scorpion would sting them like they said they would. I've no compassion left for those that gleefully voted for this cruelty and were deliberately ignorant that they too were targets.
- This one doesn’t get it, though.

"All his plans were public but I refused to review them. I thought Project 2025 was a joke because I only subscribe to rightwing media."

I'm upset that people are being harmed. I'm not upset that you feel betrayed.

Empathy is a 'weakness' until they want some for themselves.

Empathy for me, not for thee.
This entire comm is about having no empathy.
- I feel sorry for the leopards.

No. We said the same thing for the last 8 years, and people like you thumbed your nose at us like little children. Consequences of your actions.

tbf these people have been misled by tons of lies and propaganda by the republican party
- Sure, and they enjoyed participating in the hateful rhetoric and the discrimination of the outgroup that entire time, made them feel superior, until they found out they were part of the outgroup themselves.
- That's fair.
  But it's also fair to call them what they are. Fucking idiots.
  All the knowledge in the world is at everyone's fingertips now. It's a choice to be stupid as hell.
  I got a typical public education. I'm not dumb enough to vote for Republicans.
- I think that there's been more than enough time for these people to look into the man they're supporting, definitely more than enough to sift through 'fake news'.
  See how that seems completely fucking unrealistic to expect from any MAGAt? Lies and propaganda work because the people absorbing it are actually too stupid to determine the truth and need someone to think for them.
- If this were the first time Trump was president, then fine, but it fucking ain't.
- Did someone try to mislead them? Yes. Are they idiots for believing them? Also yes. Did they turn a blind eye when it was happening to other people? Yes. Are they sad now that it affects them? Oh yes. Am I sad that they are seeing the consequences of their actions? Hell no.
  Other people have been paying for their stupidity for too long. About time they do some "finding out" given how they've been all too happy to do some "fucking around"

She's right about the unity. I know there is some schadenfreud here, but at the end of the day if Trump voyers want to change their minds it's a good thing.

Do they want to change their mind, or are they upset it affected them?
Don’t mistake short term anger for long term change. These people aren’t going to reevaluate their positions in life.
Finally, one that says they wish they made a different choice. Unfortunately, if this didn't happen to someone close to her, she would probably still be for this.
They'll vote the same way at the first opportunity
They'll perform some shitty mental gymnastics to justify it, but they'll do it
- They don't disapprove of the deportation efforts (or the tariffs, or anything else), they just think he's "going about it the wrong way". Which means they'll happily vote for the next Republican promising the same things, figuring "this time'll be different".
The percentage that would vote differently is single digit. 2% from the polls. They're not regretting much.

This is so unnecessary. All she has to do is quit being such a cheapskate, and buy a pardon for a few million bucks. It's really as simple as that. For $5 million he can even have a special gold HitlerPig citizenship card.

You got exactly what you wanted, Honey. Enjoy your MAGA world.

Can anyone explain how people with undocumented immigrants in their family were tricked into voting for trump? Makes zero sense to me.

Morons, they are morons.
- I wouldn't rule that out, but I also wouldn't jump straight to that conclusion. Spanish news media in this country is beyond screwed, it skews even more right-wing as a rule than English mainstream media, in my opinion. During the 2020 election, I would watch the news on Univision with my mother-in-law sometimes, and would see them just not translate something a democrat said in English that didn't fit their agenda, misrepresent what they said in the translation, or selectively omit things they said to make their remarks sound much more sinister and authoritarian than what they actually said. They were also constantly pushing right-wing conspiracies that had been debunked weeks or months prior, with no mention of their having been disproven.
  I would constantly have my mother-in-law coming to me asking about these old ass conspiracies, because with her only knowing Spanish, that would be the first time she heard of them, and she was shocked we weren't freaking out about it.
  More leaning to the morons side, despite how Fox likes to portray immigrants as a monolithic group of rabid socialist and commies backing the Dems so they can destroy the constitution and get gulags up and running, a lot of immigrants from Latin America, Africa and the Caribbean have been fairly conservative, in my experience. A lot of them grew up heavily propagandized by right wing regimes in their home countries, many are much more religious than your average American by birth, and others have had negative experiences with nominally left-wing regimes in their home country that they can't get over. The last one can be kind of understandable, but the other two drive me crazy.
- This is harsh but it definitely seems like a fundamental lack of critical thinking. I genuinely have trouble understanding this behavior otherwise.
I read somewhere that none of Trump's talk of mass, indiscriminate deportation was translated, like in their Spanish language ads. All of the Spanish language ads were supposedly geared towards "nooooo lmao we're only going to deport violent criminals and drug lords!"
- Hmpf; propa mother fucking ganda style.
  /ed:your comment is actually really insightful.
They're lying. They weren't tricked. Trump openly and repeatedly showed how he felt about immigrants of all kinds. Everyone knew it, everyone knows it, everyone will always know it.
What actually happened is that these people decided to focus on other things. They told themselves a story about how bad the Democrats are, perhaps, which isn't that hard because there are so many dirty politicians in Washington.
Also, even immigrants can be racist. It's easy enough for someone to think that the other group of "bad" minorities will be targeted, not their own, because they too want someone to spit on. The same thing is true for many poor white MAGA voters too, right? Trump's policies are devastating for rural America, but if you'd rather have hate than healthcare, you're getting what you voted for.
- They're lying. They weren't tricked. Trump openly and repeatedly showed how he felt about immigrants of all kinds. Everyone knew it, everyone knows it, everyone will always know it.
  This is a cruel delusion you tell yourself, obviously the people you are referring to exist and there are lots of them and they should be shamed the way you are shaming them but there are far more scared, desperate people who feel as total strangers in a crowd of faces that stare at them as if they don't fit in that you casually throw under the bus along with the genuine fascists.. and make that mistake at our peril my friend.
  Plenty of people were tricked, no not everybody knew it, heck tons of people didn't even know Biden had dropped out of the presidential race when they went into vote, and no matter how you feel about it I simply will not let you make negative conclusions about immigrants and other minorities that were tricked into voting against their interests without any actual evidence to back it up.
  Cite your sources, or stop claiming that immigrants and others weren't tricked. This is a toxic narrative and it must be stopped in its tracks.
  It is our job as leftists to speak to these people who are afraid and say "don't take my word for it, see how these people who claim to support you are trying to kill, maim and destroy you and your families", and NOT our job to lambast these people for entering into a cruel battle royale for reasons we could only really ever judge if we were in their shoes and doing badly.
Same as many other trump voters, pure disillusion and desperation with the status quo. They buy the lie instead.
- There's anti-democrat ads even on Chinese social apps?
First time maybe, second term there is absolutely no excuse
Immigrant here. No english means same info from the internet. Usual thought process goes :
"Right are working class farmers so left must be the CEOs. Like in my country except they are switched. Makes sense."
There’s a great book that covers decades of research on this topic. It’s free, too.
https://theauthoritarians.org/
- Interesting thanks for the link.
Some people (~30%) can't separate reality from fiction.
Colonialism cannot simply subjugate minorities with violent force alone, it isn't enough to turn people against their homes.
Colonialism must divide people with fear and make them pick sides against their heart so that the oppression of Colonialism is distracted from by the oppression of people hurting each other as they try to claw their way up through brutal racist, classist conditions all the while being lectured by white people.
It doesn't have to make sense to you why people would vote against their interests, you must simply understand that it is essential for authoritarian control and thus rich people have gotten very good at convincing people to do it in the US.
You can only have a class based system where certain groups are excluded from enjoying decent lives if there is always a sales pitch being made to a minority group that if they betray their own interests to help white people come out on top again then they will be let into the white club. Whiteness dies without that and yet whiteness can never really let anybody in who isn't white without dying itself.
Focus your anger on the immense incongrituities of this situation not the fact that it hurts people so bad they can't see clearly with their heart anymore.
Fascists aren't people. Logic and self interest does not apply.
It's all libidnal desire to not think, a rejection of a world that demands they grow and change. A rejection of complexity, of knowledge, of responsibility.
Critical thinking does not apply. Their whole way of being runs counter to that. There is no self awareness, no imagination¹, not even self preservation.
Even what you and i think of as communication serves a different purpose for them. It's like the husks from 'mass effect' but more so.
¹older versions of fascism actually had imagination. It was a thing. Filtered out; creates too much complexity.
- Careful here… while I agree with your anger, you're using the same language used to dehumanize vulnerable populations. Everyone, including horrible people like Steven Miller, deserve basic human dignity. They deserve fairness, due process, and every human right. But unrepentant fascists don't deserve our attention, our sympathy, forgiveness, or reprieve from justice (repentant ones are more complex and not addressed here).
  To treat them as less than human is to risk becoming like them. When you fight monsters, you must take extra care to avoid becoming a monster yourself, after all.

Her vote says she didn't give a fuck about anybody else's father, so why should anybody else give a fuck about hers?

"I regret something that I did but only now it's personally affecting me and my family."

I would like to know how she felt when everyone else was getting kidnapped and deported?

Same as everyone else that voted for trump.
"They're only going after the bad ones."

"don't shoot yourself in the foot"

"Shoot yourself in the foot to Make America Great Again!"

"I'm telling you man, you shouldn't shoot yourself in the foot"

Shoots themself in the foot

"WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH"

"Told you so"

I fucking despise people like this

They're fine with hurting people, so long as they're not hurt themselves

So now that she’s personally affected by it she wants change lol. But trans people are illegal now so deep down it was still worth it to her.

Immigration is the one issue where he 100% did not lie about what he intended, and therefore, the one issue where I don't feel much sympathy for impacted MAGA voters. You literally did vote for this.

I can't help but feel bad for her and her family.

And as much as we want to laugh at her, that doesn't help. A lot of people need to see how their mistakes affect them before they get it.

This country needs to be united, and anyone that wants to defect left should be welcomed. Show them the light and how they were lied to and manipulated. Grow our numbers. Teach people compassion.

But if we ostracize her, she'll just end up back into her media sphere and voting against the betterment of this country again.

If she was right in front of me I’d be gentle, say I’m proud of her for realizing the truth even if it was a little late, and try to help at least by making her some tea or something.
But from over here? Bruh I still hope she gets her dad back and shit, and I do feel bad because she’s clearly stupid as all hell so from her perspective this was a sudden and unexpected betrayal, but holy shit I do love these posts. Trump was beyond obviously evil and maintained that very public energy for a decade yet people still gave him the popular vote in 2024. Harris should have been the right-wing candidate but instead the US made her the only option against the super far right.
She deserved this, she helped make this happen. There are only so many times you can beg someone not to drink bleach before you just don’t have the empathy to do anything about it. And I still do, I’ll never let it go completely, but I’m not going to pander to these idiots and make their horrible opinions feel valid.
- "I knew he was twirling his mustache and tying people to rain road tracks, but I didn't know it was gonna be someone I knew!"
- I still hope she gets her dad back
  I hope she gets deported right alongside him. FAFO bitch.
Nope. Fuck them. They got exactly what they voted for. This is probably one of the few things Trump didn't lie about.
- You do realize continuously antagonizing them is exactly what they want right? It makes you no different from them.
This country needs to be united, and anyone that wants to defect left should be welcomed. Show them the light and how they were lied to and manipulated. Grow our numbers. Teach people compassion.
Do you not remember how this went the past 15 times it happened in the past 3 decades?
"Welcoming" them back teaches them that their actions have no consequences. Many conservatives entrench and intensify their vile worldviews precisely because they know that their social circles will remain under the justification of "It's just politics". They dial it back when they receive pushback or punishment, and intensify it in time for the next election. Every. Goddamn. Time.
They aren't 'defecting left'. They're sad that they, personally, were harmed; and they will continue to advocate for others to be harmed as soon as their ultra-fucked rationalization of vile behavior either triggers on its own, or is 'guided' by their favorite media or memes.
How much hateful right wing rhetoric do you think she happily enjoyed and shared during her stint as a Trumpist? There is a pretty high chance that it is higher than zero.
I don't.
Stupid people can only learn through suffering. It was inevitable for this woman to suffer to become less ignorant. The suffering was going to happen one way or another.
She could have done her homework. She chose not to. It's not like actual data/information is being withheld from her, kept behind lock and key. She just chose not to look it up.
I'll 100% accept this woman into the fold, but ONLY if she accepts her mistake. Have you talked to a lot of conservative voters? A common theme is not accepting the fault for their actions. I want acknowledgement before I accept any of these clowns. Stupid is dangerous and I don't want them anywhere near me until I know they can learn from their mistakes.
You have to understand that transgressing liberal morality is completely unforgivable. Voting is the most important thing! The only thing! No mercy for your dad (depending on if/how he voted). Let the infidels burn in the fires of helll!!!!! \s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

Huh, now that it impacts them they want unity? Why should I trust them to not revert to their selfish ways once they get their way? Anyway

They only want a certain kind of unity, not unity for all. They still think trans people shouldn’t exist.

- This one took me a second, genuine lol.

It is baffling how anyone couldn’t see this shit show coming. I constantly feel like I’m the subject of a long running prank.

They are sadly that stupid. I was wrapping up a job and talking to the customer ( die hard trump freak ) , typical " yeah, nice weather this weekend, hope you have a nice vacation this summer etc.".
Somehow the price of "things" comes up and this lady says "yeah it's like the extended warranty on my car! They keep raising the rates every year and I think I've paid them as much as the car cost me used! But at least i know if it breaks down ill be covered "
😭😭😭 Noooo you stupid idiot ! That is a fucking scam ! Everyone knows that!
Well, they are the people that fall for all that dumb ass shit. I don't understand how they live so long and have nice homes. I just can't figure it out.
They knew it would happen. I don't believe for a second anyone didn't see this happening.
People believe themselves to be part of the in-circle as "one of the good ones". My father is a Trump-supporting anti-immigrant immigrant. But when he says "immigrant", he really means Hispanics and blacks, not Asians like himself.
I even know an Afghan guy who loves Trump. He grew up under the Mujahideen and then the Taliban, so he hates Islam. When Trump says Muslim countries are bad, this guy 100% agrees. He thinks he and Trump are on the same side, because he's no longer Muslim. Trump, or course, would have him arrested and deported on sight for being brown.

Actually, that time was before the election, but you all let a lying traitorous basterd fool you all into believing he was on "your" side. Have the day you voted for!

The time to come together in unity and compassion was the election. That's long since passed now. He showed everyone exactly who he was while campaigning for his first presidency, and every single second since then.

If you were still unsure about his leadership qualities, his first presidency was filled with him throwing others under the bus, telling blatant, significant lies with every speech, betraying our allies for political gain, bungling the pandemic response and needlessly destroying hundreds of thousands of lives, spending more time golfing than doing his job, and concluded with him attempting to overturn the election by pressuring states, participating in an illegal scheme that involved fake electors, and inciting an insurrection at the nation's capitol. Oh, and he was impeached twice.

But if racism is the final straw for you to stop supporting this draft-dodging, ableist, lying, rapist, 34-count convicted felon, great; but that was on display, too. He called places with brown and black populations "shithole countries", issued a ban on immigration from Muslim countries, criticized Puerto Rico and dragged his feet on helping them after a devastating hurricane, pardoned Arizona racist Joe Arpaio, convicted for his illegal "worst pattern of racial profiling in US history" (DoJ), harshly cracked down on peaceful Black Lives Matter protestors, including tear-gassing them at a church to disperse them and use the location as a photo-op.

I won't go through all the examples, but the end result is if you voted for him in 2024, you either ignored or approved of his racism. Unfortunately, it's now affecting many innocent people, some of whom you know...

Nah. Good luck with that though, dipshit.

Really wish this sort of regret were more common. Approval ratings are holding steady

Look at what’s going on with the Trump phone. Obvious lie, media doesn’t even dig into it. Trump gets the headline and the win. As seems to happen every time, the media is back to loving him again. I have a feeling things to this new wall-to-wall flattering coverage, his approval rating is actually gonna start inching up again. And this is made my faith in America completely evaporate.

I have sympathy for her and people in similar situations and take issue with any suggestion that they deserves this. But I also can't help but feel her plea for unity is disingenuous and hypocritical. It's great that she's seemingly on board with unity against fascism now but going forward I don't trust she or people like her will have anybody's back but their own.

Yeah, calling for ambiguous "unity" after you're personally affected shouldn't be convincing to anyone, she should go protest instead

Congratulations. You got what you voted for. I seriously hope you learned that lesson.

Narrator: "She didn't"
Untill the next grifter comes around the corner

Cry for all the people you helped fuck over by voting for that shit.

Damn, that's more sad than funny, even though Trump voters are either stupid, or evil and knew exactly what would happen.

I'm fresh out of compassion. They all deserve this.

Same. Tried to warn them, but they wouldn't listen.

So the guy who has been stiffing contractors for the last 50 YEARS, the guy who calls our servicemen "suckers and losers" the guy who openly bragged about just how hard he was going to fark us all over, the guy who shits in a GOLD TOILET doesn't care about YOU?

That must have come as quite a shock.

If ONLY there was SOME WAY to Know this would Happen BEFORE the Election!

-Republicans who Do Their Own Research!

Oh save your fucking tears. Your daddy wouldn’t be dying in ICE custody if it wasn’t for you.

Met an Iranian uber driver 5 days ago who admitted to illegally immigrating 10 years ago and for some reason brought up that she’s been pulled over more than 25 times for speeding in her personal car. She also said her full time job was pastor at a Christian church which is why she had to leave Iran. She voted trump. She said he’s good because he’s tough (whatever that means now). I’m convinced that they’re deporting their own base.

one of the universal things about fascists is that they're utterly fucking incompetent losers who can't help but self-sabotage, it's the one good thing about them

There are two wolves inside me.

This is horrible, no one should have to live through that.
lol get dunked on plays Toby Fox's Dogsong sped up

The leopard’s eaten good this summer.

"So...many...faces!!"

And they'll find a way to blame democrats or something

I have zero sympathy for this kind of shit. The selfish idiot knew and wanted to hurt others through her vote and received a dose of her own fucking medicine.

It's hard to feel sorry for people who willingly overlooked the evidence

Just so they could feel good

You sleep in the bed you made.

Who knew there were so many leopards about?

Video: https://xcancel.com/notcapnamerica/status/1935147831637008534

Those nails tell the story.

This is why when I see conspiracies on here that Kamala won but trump rigged the election makes me angry. When you say that you're understating that so so so many Latinos and Latina's voted hard for Trump and the Fourth Reich. Because they thought they were protected and everyone else was a useless eater urchin that deserve to be deported. Now they're realizing that MAGA views all non-white and poor immigrants as the useless eater urchins.

And are now paying the price.

Bow down before the one you serve. You're gonna get what you fucking deserve.

Christianity is a social cancer.

I believe being an idiot is largely beneficial 90% of the time in this world. But man, that other 10% must hit real hard.

No it is not, it is an unbearable curse.

I love the schadenfreude of MAGAs getting EXACTLY what they voted for.

Oh well, we're all gonna die, right?

goooooooo fuck yourself Chica. This is what you voted for. Dumb cunt.

Oh no. Anyways…

Womp womp. Unfortunately, fascism is real.

Isn't undocumented another word for illegal immigrant? (It's not really a term we have over here so apologies if I got that wrong)

I have nothing whatsoever against people based on their country of origin or skin colour etc, but if you're (or a close loved one is) flagrantly breaking the law and hiding from the authorities by illegally residing in a country, surely you shouldn't be surprised when you vote for the guy that promised to root these criminals out and deport them?

To me, the big news is people who are legally residing in the USA are being gulag'd, not that they're catching illegal immigrants. But yes, this woman was a fool, sadly.

She may be intelligent and capable of learning better, but such is the power of propaganda and brainwashing that it can get us all. None of us are immune.

It's a strong reminder that people can be tricked into working against their own interests, no matter how smart we are. The only thing that will give us a fighting chance are strong Critical Thinking skills. Even then, it's so easy to be fooled and not realise it.

Lolololololol

Why would anyone show compassion when they can joke about it from positions of extreme privilege? There's even a whole comm for it! smh.

Instead of giving her the leopards treatment, maybe we should be welcoming people like this who want to change allegiances.

No, I am all out of compassion. She is on her own.
- It's not about compassion at all. We need more numbers.
Changed allegiance? After she voted orange turd in for a second term? And only after she was personally hit with the consequences of her own doing?
Ask the people who are now in concentration camps awaiting deportation who are being separated from their kids and other family about what they think of such nazi supporters.
- an imperfect ally is still an ally. We need to cut it with the purity tests on the left or we're never going to win.
Your argument is a straw man, isn't it? Of course people can say "you voted for it, you deserve it, what the fuck were you thinking" and also say "come join the protest next week if you actually found your sense of human decency". That is all perfectly consistent.
When informed adults whine about what they predictably lost based on their own bad decisions, of course their complaints will fall on deaf ears. But if they want to take action to make things better, nobody will get in their way.
- I would be tempted to agree with you that it's a straw man, except for all the other responses to my comment.

Yeah but I am a white dude who had a fairly privileged liberal upbringing, so while I can look at this and snear who actually needs minoritories to betray themselves out of fear? It isn't minorities... they don't have the powerr...

Hmmm...

I adjust the mirror to stare at it and ponder

I remember all your GeNoCiDe JoE bullshit so you're no better
- Well Genocide Joe let the Palestinian Genocide happen so I am better than him.
  Also "bullshit"?
  Go away you cynical selfish ghoul.