Bernie Sanders says Israel is violating international law with blockade on 'open-air prison' in Gaza
Bernie Sanders says Israel is violating international law with blockade on 'open-air prison' in Gaza
Once again, massive swinging dick Bernie Sanders is one of the few bold enough to actually spit truth, no matter how much shit he catches for it.
I watched Sanders a couple of Dutch interview shows in the past few days because his latest book was translated to Dutch. He seemed sharp as a whip.
Sanders also reiterated his prior condemnation of the Hamas attack, calling it a “major setback for any hope of peace and reconciliation in the region – and justice for the Palestinian people.”
There was never any hope of peace and reconciliation and justice. 🙄
Yeah I have no idea how these people don't get it. Are the Palestinians expected to just accept having their calories counted and reduced, their water limited, and their electricity shut off? Like what sort of peace do you think is possible?
Not with that attitude.
No, not with any knowledge of the last 70 years in the region.
Extremists on both side of this conflict want nothing but the extermination of the other and have been saying so for decades.
The world has been trying to broker any sort of solution for all that time but the political leaders on each side do not believe the other has a right to exist.
Grow up lol
EDIT ooh yeah keep downvoting Ledditors, I welcome your hatred 😜
he says WHAT? didn't he say the opposite like 1 day ago?
I mean, good, but
No, he is opposed to war crimes by both sides
"Both sides should just stop being mean to each other" is in this case the blandest, most useless take you could possibly have. It does nothing for nobody, it's just saying something for the sake of saying it.
What are his positions on how to resolve this thing? What should the Palestinians get in his opinion?
Unlimited violence upon genocidal settler colonists, we don't need to make excuses
This you bitch? Bc this is how “it stops”
So glad zionists don't control the narrative this time.
It seems like the internet is doing it's job, for once.
They do sadly. The media has repeated Israeli lies again and again even when provided with no proof of their claims. The whole baby beheading thing got spread so much that Joe Biden ended up calling it out and later clarified that they don't have proof as well.
And Reddit has been banning pro Palestine subs and users from yesterday.
I sincerely doubt they're banning "pro-palestine" subs and users and are banning the ones supporting Hamas and mindless violence. Reddit is far more anti-zionist than any other social media, for example.
Not to say that the Israeli propaganda machine isn't running, but there is definitely a portion of antisemitic backing for Hamas (not Palestine) that's going to get places banned for not following reddit's sitewide rules about hate (just have to use some dogwhistles to get around it tho).
This is the best summary I could come up with:
"For many, it is no secret that Gaza has been an open-air prison, with millions of people struggling to secure basic necessities," Sanders said in a statement issued on Wednesday.
"Israel's blanket denial of food, water, and other necessities to Gaza is a serious violation of international law and will do nothing but harm innocent civilians."
Sanders also reiterated his prior condemnation of the Hamas attack, calling it a "major setback for any hope of peace and reconciliation in the region – and justice for the Palestinian people."
Sanders is among the most prominent Jewish politicians in America, and during his presidential campaigns in 2016 and 2020, he was notably far more critical of Israel than most Democrats.
His comments are largely in line with those of progressive "Squad" members in the House, who have called for a cease-fire in the wake of the Hamas attack.
Some of those lawmakers have also used the word "apartheid" to describe Israeli's occupation of the West Bank and blockade of Gaza, a term that's used by numerous international human rights groups but is largely eschewed by American politicians.
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But I also know after 9/11 I wouldn’t have given a shit if we did genocide an entire group if they were responsible.
Wtf.
You assholes DID do that, 3 million dead and millions more refugees.
If the people did 9/11 were Indigenous Americans living in an open air prison beside New York city, facing regular bombings, food shortages, lack of clean water and electricity and a constant encroachment upon their land, yeah little sympathy when they kill a couple settlers for once.
What is your source for 3 million because that is vastly higher than all estimates.
I also know after 9/11 I wouldn’t have given a shit if we did genocide an entire group if they were responsible
liberals just can't stop telling on themselves
I also know after 9/11 I wouldn’t have given a shit if we did genocide an entire group if they were responsible.
you have hitler living inside of you
I think one of the main lessons from Nazi Germany (and various old psychological experiments), is that everyday, average, people are capable of horrifying acts. This is especially true for kids who haven't fully developed empathy yet (this is one reason child soldiers are used, gangs are mostly children, etc).
I was around the same age as the poster when 9/11 happened, and had the same thoughts, and many of the kids I knew had the same thoughts as well. I lived in the "country" outside of an all-white, pretty racist, very small town and had christian fundamentalist parents; which probably shaped my views when I was a child. I remember once in school, we had to do a presentations, and one group of kids did a presentation about turning Afghanistan to glass; which got laughs and no reprimands from the teacher.
That is hilarious.
You know the US does have groups of people cordoned off in New Mexico? We have similar situations all over the US. They're called Indian Reservations and we did regularly massacre the people that lived there (Wounded Knee being the most famous example).
But at least by 1924 we gave Native Americans citizenship and therefore the right of free movement. It only took about 150 years but they at least got basic rights eventually, even if the discrimination and violence continues.
Israel can't even meet the standards of decency that America, a continuously not-decent country figured out for itself before Israel even existed.
Did uh, you not live through the same timeline I did? I was 14. I had the mental faculties one would expect from a 14 year old. I probably could have been calmed down and shown the right way of things. But I wasn’t. Because Americans weren’t. The initial response to the attack was shock sorrow and fury. And revenge was a common theme that was happily pushed by literally everyone. That’s why we don’t remember the people who pushed for war. We remember the few people who spoke out against it, even though it cost them their careers in many cases.
Americans can handle the shock and sorrow part of the equation. Americans have always struggled with the last one. We don’t forgive a lot of things. And the fury we can exact on our enemies is unrivaled. We conquered the world, in so many words, when they blew up our boats in the 40s. Go back and we exacted bitter revenge on indigenous people whenever they ambushed our settlers.
What about what I said is unamerican? Honestly the question is what liberal vault did you emerge from that separated you from our timeline?
Don’t confuse me speaking about reality as justifying it. I don’t justify my actions or those who influenced me. It was wrong. And I had to learn that the hard way growing up. But i am speaking about it as it was. You don’t get to change the past, you can only be honest about it and work to correct it when it comes around again.
The Israelis will commit the war crimes we only wish we could have this early after the attack. They will invade and end up fucked in a long term occupation with no real goal but a lot of house to house fighting and innocent civilians dead. Shit who does that sound like.
They’ll only succeed in giving birth to the next generation of even more extreme terrorists. The Middle East is just that much more unstable. We drone on towards unending chaos.
It’s turning out that the golden years of the 50s through tbe 2010s were the high water mark of human civilization. And we spent it bickering and smoking cigarettes.
Sick.
I certainly hope these are confirmed terrorist targets but there’s just a whole lot of them and I suspect many of them have civilians inside.
"I supported genocidal rage, tried to psychologize and implicitly justify other ways to genocide, gladly accept and repeat the racist language of double standards that allows Westerners to pretend they don't already support apartheid and genocide, but don't you dare call me a Nazi."
This is a horrible take.
I'm only allowing it to stay up because it'll give others an eye opener of what Israel supporters are really like.
I'm curious, what exactly gives a sense of OP being an Israel supporter? I read the post as good pondering about the reasoning for Israel's reactions and some good analogy for US readers through the 9/11 attacks and reactions for it.
It's pretty much required that a nation will either defend themselves or even counterattack heavily if someone attacks them or otherwise they won't stay independent very long (see Ukraine currently or Europe in 1930-1940s) and understanding that doesn't make someone automatically a supporter of either side. Now, it's a good thing to discuss about the size of Israel's reaction because completely destroying another country over a terrorist attack is not going to end up well either. This is something where the 9/11 comparison works well in my mind.
I know we are currently in the ___ phase but where is the line drawn? Does this ___ justify genocide? Im not inclined to believe so.
The line is genocide, if nothing else. The blanks don't matter. Your position on genocide should be 110% against it, the extra 10% (ideally more) being proactive measures to fight fascism to ensure genocide never happens again in history.
ITT: People who can't tell an explanation from a justification.
Go fuck yourself Bernie. You bowed to this. You endorsed this. You imperialist piece of shit.
At least Jezza stood for principles and went down for them.
Palestinian resistance: "absolutely condemn", "horrifying attack", "no justification", "it must end now"
Zionists doing Nazi shit in Gaza: "a war crime"
Fuck off you old piece of shit
How would you describe it?
Akin to the Warsaw uprising. People facing extermination rising up hoping to avert ultimate doom at the hands of uncaring monsters.
They knew how outmatched they were, but the alternative is submitting to genocide. Think about the desperation required to take this nearly hopeless fight. The sheer suffering.
I would describe the actions of the Palestinians as, hmm, let me just do a stream of conscious word association here:
based heroic justified correct good successful hopeful kickass revolution freedom
For a public statement by a U.S. Senator it is about as critical of Israel anyone could expect. I would wager far moreso in fact.
Hey Bernie, you used to be cool, but it's time for your dues as well.
Maybe he was literally sent loads of
in his e-mails too, lmao
“Violating international law” is pretty sterile/soft verbiage for fucking war crimes.
We have a Jewish politician open criticizing Israel, I'm pretty sure that says more than enough on its own
What do you mean? Jewish politicians are the only ones allowed to even mildly criticize Israel, because anti-semitism claims against them are taken slightly less seriously.
And cue someone from the GOP calling him an antisemite/Nazi in 3… 2… 1…
He denounced specific parts of the attack. The section of international law that explicitly allows violent resistance to a military occupation or blockade doesn't exempt the resistors from the rest of international law. The IDF/Israel and Hamas have the same obligations under international law(s).
Yeah last I checked shooting up music festivals isn't tho...
Every Hamas supporter seems to have this same cognitive dissonance.
Is Israel genocidal? Absolutely
Is hamas genocidal? Absolutely
Stop supporting genocide and claiming to be a leftist. You're really just an extremist pos.
Yes, Israel has the advantage. No, that doesn't make terrorism any less bad.
Stand with Palestine but denounce Hamas at every single opportunity, just as we should denounce the genocidal government of Israel at every opportunity.