UN members walk out en-masse in protest against Netanyahu address
UN members walk out en-masse in protest against Netanyahu address
Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon
including scores of women and children
This always assumes that there are no civilian men. I get that men are the ones usually conscripted, but... that's always seemed weird to me.
It makes for a more defensible argument. No sane person is going to argue that a 4 year old child is an enemy combatant. But a 20 year old male? It's easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatant and so maybe the numbers are inflated. Saying 1000 people can be interpreted as 999 enemies and only 1 civilian casualty. Saying 1000 women and children is usually interpreted as 1000 innocent lives lost.
Yeah, that's true, but super fucked that women get the innocence of children and men are assumed to be not innocent in any situation.
Life is harsh when you're a guy.
But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatan
The age old problem of "excess males" solved by declaring open season on anyone with facial hair.
Call to emotion, nothing else. Women and children "sounds" worse than "people" dying.
I mean, a score is 20. I think that means they've killed two thousand scores of people. "Scores of women and children" doesn't really do that justice.
If he is still able to speak and be heard, then they arent loud enough. Every single person in that room needs to be screaming to demand his immediate arrest.
Good point, them leaving says I don’t want to be involved not that I want to stop the injustice.
It's the only way they can express their revulsion at Israel, and the US who constantly block anything else they might try
No... It says "I won't be a part of this". It's a desperate act.
That sack of shit should have been arrested.
Cool. Now do something that stops him. Going for a coffee won't save lives.
The UN is a forum for dialogue. Expecting the UN to do something other than either say stuff or help by mandate supported by countries just shows you don't understand what their purpose is.
Walking out in this case sends the message. If these countries want to do something about it they can, other countries might intervene on Israëls behalf. The UN provides a forum to discuss this kind of stuff. So countries don't end up in wars they did not want.
Maybe so... but I feel like this is one of the biggest mistakes in the post WWII order. Imagine what things would be like if the UN had more teeth (and no security council)
If these countries want to do something about it they can
Yes, but they don't. They go grab a coffee. Look, I know many countries are very vocal about their disagreement. I'm just so pissed there are still others (mine included) that seem to be absolutely blind to any of the atrocities and respond with neverending loyalty. In my county I even understand that to a degree, but still I'm beyond pissed. Accepting the genocide your ancestors caused and the moral consequences of it shouldn't result in accepting another one driven by former victims. What Israel does is vile and unacceptable. And I say Israel, not the Israelis or 'the Jews', because I'm not a complete idiot. But there are people who might use the antisemite card on this. Maybe because they are complete idiots, or because they are off the same ideals and moral as the Nazis. And this behavior sickens me.
Only the US (or Israel's Arab allies bought by the US) can do that and yeah.
The ignorance of this statement makes me embarrassed for you.
That's ok, I don't mind
why isn't he arrested already? I wish I had similar privileges, where I could break laws (thst don't violate human rights ofc.), make a shitload of money and travel the world freely.
We've always been good at walking away, closing our ears, turning a blind eye…
Cool, but did you stop giving money and weapons yet? No? Then your statement is as effective as "thoughts and prayers."
The UN definitely has its problems but I'm not going to blame UN global representatives for the US paving the unilateral support for the genocidal terrorist nation state of Israel.
The UN does not supply arms to Israel. The UN has passed many resolutions condemning Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, going back decades. They have literally already done everything the UN can do, many times over. They weren’t a governing body with binding powers over where the US sends arms, or who France chooses to support.
So I’d have to say that your comment is less effective than their walkout, because it isn’t even properly informed.
Bro do you even know what the UN is?
Thoughts and prayers for the world?
The primary purpose of the United Nations (UN) is to maintain international peace and security. It aims to take effective collective measures to prevent and remove threats to peace, suppress acts of aggression, and settle international disputes peacefully, in accordance with principles of justice and international law.
He is such a fucking scumbag. Fuck him and fuck the rest of Israel.
Fuck the USA, and every country too chicken shit to oppose a criminally corrupt sociopath committing war crimes to delay his own imminent corruption trial and imprisonment.
Fuck the USA government, you mean. I only live here, and all I get to do is choose between the lesser of two evils every 4 years. What a nightmare.
wait ok, i'm confused why do we hate the US government? Is it because it's doing global geopolitics shit? Like what's the motive for caring about this, as opposed to like, stopping world hunger.
Like the motive for the latter is obvious, but i don't really see the motive for the former. It just seems like yelling at a vast brick wall for no reason.
Looking at the protests against him in Israel I think many if not most Israelis don't want this campaign of violence. For many years I've felt sorry for all the civilians in that area, because they are trying to live their lives and extremist assholes on all sides keep killing them.
Settlers can go fuck themselves though.
The protests aren't against his policy of genocide in Palestine.