Trump has 'made clear' he will turn the U.S. military loose on America if re-elected: NYT

SO SAY WE ALL

ennemas

I think in theory the police are meant to. But the 'theory' part of that sentence is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

The National Guard protects and serves quite a bit after natural disasters. Maybe it's referring to that?

I'm currently in the AF. Can confirm, we're a snapshot of the country. Not some frothing red dog.

Edit - Also, Donald Trump fucking hates us. If anyone 'supports the troops' they'll vote blue.

Yeah, but nobody who goes out of their way to advertise that they "support the troops" actually gives a shit about them. It's always been jingoistic performative nonsense.

If he loses and tries to claim a stolen election, project 2025 promising a bloodbath will not go well for any of them. Especially since Trump continues to disrespect military personnel at every turn.

I know there are some maga nuts in the ranks, but last I heard most generals have spoken out against the Trumpet crumpet.

Also, Donald Trump fucking hates us. If anyone 'supports the troops' they'll vote blue.

Wow! I was expecting a link to one incident but there was a list of many, many unrelated incidents. He really does hate the military.

Thanks for the link!

My impression has been that the USA air force is perhaps the branch of the armed forces that is most controlled by high ranking evangelicals. Is there any reality basis to this belief?

Why is that?

We have no idea how this would play out. Internal military use is right there in the coup playbook, and top military leaders know this and surely have privately considered it. Would they tell him to fuck off? Maybe. Whatever they would do, if it gets to that point, they're betting their legacies and their lives on their choice.

Once again, it was all projection.

One of the problems with having your "truth tellers" rely on commercial sales to get the news out. Jones went from a guy who would mainstream generic fringe views of every conceivable quality to a guy who exclusively dealt in far-right conspiracy theories because that's where the money was at.

Joe Rogan is on a similar arc. The longer he churns out episodes, the more fascist his guests and his "common sense" views become. And then you look at his advertisers...

There are more civilian owned guns than people in the US, and yeah, a lot of it is from basically people that are building a personal armory.

Hell, there's a whole commonly repeated mantra amongst many guntubers that 'one is none and two is one' that is basically a thought stopping cliche that also shames people into always purchasing a backup gun roughly equivalent to their primary 'just in case'.

When it comes to the people with personal armories... I guarantee that the vast majority (not literally all, but most) of those kinds of people are such assholes, such antisocial totalitarians in their personal lives that they either arent going to have any friends to use all those extra guns, or their 'friends' will just take one and leave after armory man is an asshole long enough.

Functionally, all these goobers have done is made the equivalent of loot boxes or mini dungeons with guns as the prize in an actual SHTF scenario.

Done and doner

Hey! Where the fuck is my cake?

We really need to make voting day a federal holiday. Give people paid time off of work so that they can go vote.

And make sure to push back on the obvious MAGA propagandists online, even if they pretend to be leftists.

Arresting and silencing people who did not vote for him under the guise of combating domestic terrorism would be so easy. For as much as the right wing bad actors like to claim false flag every time something bad happens that they are to blame for, if Trump were to successfully orchestrate a false flag attack as president, he could have carte blanche to do whatever he pleased to his political enemies so long as the Supreme Court abdicated their responsibility to check his authority.

It really will be a terrifying time to live in America. The absolute best we could hope for with a second Trump presidency is him hunkering down for four years and do nothing after he gets what he really wants - all his criminal cases dismissed. That's the best case scenario. I shudder to think of the worst case scenario, which would be all-out civil war.

Him maybe, but not generals, guardsmen or anyone who would do that.

When listening to american generals speak they are usually wise men who know a lot about a lot, including the constitution, racism, dictators and such. Maybe it's the optimist in me, but I have a hard time believing they would follow Trump down that path.

January 6th.

Unfortunately legality has no correlation with morality. What if the legal orders are to fire on US citizens? We've already seen what happens to legal and peaceful protestors when they're confronted by police.

I hate Trump with a fucking passion. But he was president for 4 years and did nothing like that. Why didn't he do it then? Why would he wait to be reelected instead of doing it when he actually had power?

Trump supporter, most likely.

I think he is referencing the right-wing talking point of the week: Kamala "stole Trump's idea" (big air quotes) for not taxing tips. I'd be mad too if the otherside also supported my guys only popular agreeable stance 😤

Their boy Reagan enacted the tax to begin with...