Imane bomaye

Imagining a world where Joanne Rowling is legally required to shut the fuck up

The best part is she absolutely will not be able to help herself, and won't comply. I hope Imane takes all her money.
69th Like. It's coming true!

For posterity, mofos!

hope she wins the legal right to go 10 rounds with both of them at a time and place of her choosing

Folks I'm starting to think she might be based as fuck

you can't call it cyber bullying in France, you have to say harcèlement à la demande

harrassment on demand?
- a few years ago, France made it illegal to say "podcast" on television or radio - they didn't like the English loaner word and insisted on "audio à la demande"
- harrassment on demand?
  hexbear.net

GOOD. Get their asses, take them to the fucking cleaners.

She should sue Rowling under UK law it would be a much stronger case, the law here is extremely strong for defamatory shit.

She should just beat her up tbh
- I'm gonna go with the radical centrist take of suing her AND beating her up

They're both too rich to be affected by a lawsuit outside of their ego, but with how SLAPP suit happy Rowling is, this is still funny. Hopefully she has a meltdown on twitter over it.

Her time will be massively wasted by it so that's a good thing one way or another. Even paying a bunch of people to handle it she'll still lose hundreds of hours.
It won't affect them, sure
But the actual point of these laws (in theory) is less about punishing someone for bad behavior and more about compensation or restitution for harm done to the plaintiff. It's just expressed in terms of currency or other compensation.
Basically like "Elon's targeted harassment has reduced the plaintiff's marketability for sponsorships and future post-career coaching opportunities..." stuff like that. And if he's found liable (or guilty, dunno how France words this stuff) he has to compensate for that measurable harm caused over a lifetime.
I'm not trying to be overly annoying, but it is one of those things I think people run away with like "oh time for the courts to punish them!" and because billionaires break the system due to the magnitude of their wealth in comparison to "reasonable" damages awards, it's always going to be disappointing if the expectation is "finally he'll learn to shut up!" Because he won't. Not under the current system. However, if the system works correctly, an innocent person can get something approaching justice on their end in financial terms.

i hope there's this thing where they have such massive and overpaid teams of lawyers that the sheer number of egos makes them effectively incompetent and unable to coordinate with each other and she takes a shit load of money from them (i guess whatever assets the French state can appropriate?)

I swear, if she tries to make this the new OJ Simpson trial...
- Looking forward to Joanne's new book "If I Did It (Years of Sustained Transphobic Harassment), Here's How It Happened".

How easy is it to sue people who live in different countries? Is that even possible?

It probably helps that those two have income from France. Elon bc Twitter operates in France and I’m pretty sure Teslas are sold there, Rowling bc Harry Potter shit is sold in France
An Algerian filing a complaint (unsure what that means here) in France against a Brit and a Yank, each of whom have companies registered in the EU (I think Tesla and Harry Potter have European subsidiaries) seems like lawyer hell.
The English libel laws are extremely annoying from what I remember so Rowling is likely to have to lawyer up real hard.
Well look at what we did to :assange: ...we have no Assange emoji?
- Well we didn't do anything to Assange, the most powerful state in world history did that
- He has a long history of sex abuse so pass

Just waiting for Elon offer to fight her

Then postponing a few times before chickening out

Would she have better odds suing them in the UK though? I thoughtc they had really strict libel laws, idk anything about France though

can she sue in both countries?

Hope Richard Dawkins is included too, I'm even praying for that.

Doesn't he identify as a "cultural christian" or something like that now? Like, he still doesn't believe in God, he just hates brown people culture.
- “cultural christian”
  the term white supremacist already exists

Their

being rabid assholes have finally caught up to them.

get your bag queen 💪💪

Give her Tesla and Harry Potter

hasn't she suffered enough?
- She can sell em back
Seems a little unfair, both of those suck and I wouldn't want to force that shit on her
I'd rather she get so much money from them both that tesla goes out of business and joanne has to sell harry potter for almost nothing
- She can sell them

can't believe Imane Khelif will be the new owner of the Harry Potter franchise

She's so based wtf

hell yeah

Good

For speech to be libel, it has to be false. However, medical records are private. Would Khelif have to forfeit her medical privacy to prove that their claims are false and therefore libelous? This seems confusing and I doubt she'd be willing to publish a DNA or testosterone test as she didn't go to the CAS after her '23 ban. Also, where's Lin in all of this? I'm surprised she wasn't the main target. None of this makes sense and I think the more I learn the less I'll understand.

For speech to be libel, it has to be false.
This doesn't sound a case of libel, you can harass someone someone without using false statements so I'm not sure it would be relevant.
This seems confusing and I doubt she'd be willing to publish a DNA or testosterone test as she didn't go to the CAS after her '23 ban.
The organization that gave her the ban is no longer recognized by the IOC or CAS, so again not really relevant. Not really relevant either way, if you get false claims made against you by a corrupt organization you're not obligated to go after them privately or legally. Like I'm sorry, I'm not taking any claims by the IBA seriously.
- As in to regain the ability to fight in IBA sanctioned matches. She did publish an appeal at the time of her ban, and the IBA was recognized but she withdrew the appeal.
this seems to be a criminal cyber harassment case and not a libel case
Why wouldn't the burden of proof be on Musk, Dawkins, Raichik, and Rowling to prove they had a compelling reason to make the claim, aside from just vibes?
I only saw the Dawkins tweet, he was very specific and certain about his level of evidence, so much to use the term "undisputed".
Otherwise there's a chilling effect where women are all relentlessly bullied online until they publicize their medical records to prove they don't have abortions or alopecia or osteogelasia liquifaciens or w/e the new fearmongering is that week.
- This is apparently a cyberbullying thing, not a libel thing. So after reading the French harassment laws, it doesn't matter if you said something entirely true or not. It just matters if the harassment is repeated and caused a decline in health and that you did it more than once. So Khelif doesn't need to prove anything, other than mean tweets made her sad.
  On another note, I'm shocked that France has a law that says if you post more than one mean tweet about a politician you can go to prison for 3 years.