I feel like this map was designed to piss off everyone.
New England is fully correct so no one there will be mad.
As is proper.
Where's the pacific northwest? It's labeled weird.
All of Cascadia.
I refuse to be known at part of the nyc metro.
And I can drive a couple miles to a sign that says "Welcome to Tennessee, Gateway of the Deep South."
You tell people they're part of the "upper" south and they'll set your car on fire.
If you go up to any Hoosier (resident of Indiana) and tell them they live in the Ohio River Valley, you're getting punched in the face
Absolutely never will you catch a southern Illinoisan saying we’re from/in the south. We say Midwest or southern Illinois to be more specific.
I never understood why people think WV is a southern state. 1) It fucking snows and is cold af in winter. 2) We literally exist because we ain't traitors.
It’s funny because I don’t know anyone east of Springfield that would consider themselves the “Ohio River Valley” either. I feel like the borders should be closer to state lines. I would like a reference for this map if anyone has it.
Central Texas is nothing like East Texas, so that makes the rest of this map suspect.
Yea, this map is nonsense.
I've never heard half of these names used like this.
"Chesapeake"... First I've never heard it used as a region, second the region so labeled on the map would be better called Mid-Atlantic (
and that wouldn't really be accurate either) that really is the Mid-Atlantic region, and there's no Mid-Atlantic on this map, but there's a Mid-Atlantic South (which I've never heard anyone use - VA is Mid-Atlantic).Third, the Chesapeake doesn't even extend to PA, let alone up to NY or Jersey, over there is the Delaware Bay, so should we call that region "Delaware"?
I've never once heard anyone call that region Chesapeake - it's the Mid-Atlantic.
Then there's the Texas nonsense - there's West Texas, Central, East (sometimes jokingly referred to as Arkansas) I'll allow Rio Grande though I've never heard that used.
The West stuff... Yea, no. The Rockies, OK.
A source would be useful, perhaps knowing the context (like how this is used) would clarify things.
Also, it looks like the "Central Valley" in CA extends uphill to the top of the Sierras and Lake Tahoe. Plus "Socal" is as far north as Carmel.
No. Carmel is the Central Coast. You might as well add that to the Central Valley and add some new group for the Sierra Nevada mountains that includes northern CA above Sacramento. The north coast is culturally and geographically similar to the Sierras. "Socal" doesn't extend farther north than Santa Barbara.
Chesapeake kinda looks like it’s the Chesapeake bays watershed, for what it’s worth.
perhaps knowing the context (like how this is used)
It's not, which is why it's not accurate
A lot of those are overlapping, like Appalacha and the Great Lakes both extend into Upstate NY, much of lower Appalacha is also considered mid-atlantic, etc
The map labels central Texas as Texas and east Texas as Deep South. They're labeled differently. I don't understand your comment.
I agree, but also they're different regions on this map. I'm more upset about being lumped in with Dallas. Ultimately when you're pumping large areas together, there are going to be dissimilar places within it, but they might also be more similar than some of us care to admit
I grew up in the Deep South part of Texas and moved to and currently live in Texas Texas. I have a lot of feelings about this map that I can't really convey.
Suddenly americans know about geography.
But only places they've lived in it known people in.
Neat!
Though, I've found a lot of folks from a lot of parts of this map would just tell me they're "from the Midwest".
That's shorthand we use for people outside of the Midwest or those unfamiliar with the region.
It's similar to a person from a suburb of Boston just saying they're from Boston for simplicity's sake even if a lot of important nuance and context is lost.
That’s because the majority of these regions are horseshit. Nearly everything around the Midwest in this map doesn’t exist and we’ll just say we’re from the Midwest
I’ve started hearing Great Lakes more and more from people in MI, MN, and WI in the last several years.
I've found a lot of folks from a lot of parts of this map would just tell me they're "from the Midwest".
I would venture to say that the part of all of these regions adjacent to the Midwest could be considered subregions of it. Many people you'd meet in these areas would be likely to say they're in the Midwest.
Don't worry, living in what the map calls "lower midwest" the midwest will do its best to not include.
I live in Missouri, friends living in midwest states "Missouri isn't Midwest." They can't tell you exactly where it is, but it sure isn't midwest. And the exclusion seems to continue all the way northward until I'm convinced Wisconsin is just attempting to rename itself "Midwest" so that no one else can claim it.
Nothing in Texas is part of the south. Not only will the south tell you that, Texas will tell you that
Hard disagree. I lived in Dallas for 15 years. Longview and Tyler are classic Southern.
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Well, they don’t even get all of Texas. So, who cares what they have to say. Can’t even keep their whole state. Who knew “Texas” was just a small chunk in the middle.
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Similarly, areas surrounding DC in Maryland and Virginia should be labeled DMV, not Chesapeake.
That's a tough one because Tri-State can refer to different states. I'm guessing for you it's New York, New Jersey, Connecticut?
Having grown up in South Jersey, that was also called the Tri-State area, but it referred to New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and New York (sometimes Delaware instead of New York).
I've never heard anyone refer to the mid Atlantic south, but the piedmont is common.
Mid-atlantic, sure. Never Mid-atlantic-south.
I've read a variant of this that's little more interesting, and useful, because it includes the backstory, as well as Canada's role (which does overlap a lot of the US).
It's not 100% accurate, largely because of urbanization, but you can see how we got to where we are today.
SoCal does not go up that far not even close. Gross
I don't think New England is a useful category anymore, since modern-day Maine doesn't have more in common with the Boston area than it does with upstate New York. I'd extend what they're calling the "NYC Metro" area from Boston in the north to Philadelphia (or maybe even D.C.) in the south as a sort of east coast mega-city.
Head on over to Boston and tell them that they're in the NYC Metro area, I dare you. I want to watch.
Instead, split New England into Southern and Northern. Southern includes Mass, Rhode Island, Eastern Connecticut (the NYC Metro area is fine there), and south New Hampshire. Northern is everything else. Some may argue that Portland, Maine should be included in Southern, but I argue that while the culture has some similarities to Southern New England, it's more similar to the rest of Maine. Go to a redneck party in Southern Maine and start talking about the Old Port. Pay attention to how many people have an opinion.
I'm not saying it would be called "the NYC metro area". I've lived in Boston and I've lived in NYC and I think that while people in Boston would indeed object, the cultural differences are largely superficial. In my experience, Boston is more different from southern New Hampshire than it is from NYC.
Brave but not inaccurate.
I'd extend what they're calling the "NYC Metro" area from Boston in the north to Philadelphia (or maybe even D.C.) in the south as a sort of east coast mega-city.
What you're describing is called the I95 Corridor.
Missing the rust belt and the Bible belt...
As a European, this map is excellent!
Don't trust it. At best, some of it used to be accurate in a useful way. But even then, the terminology wouldn't match well.
The closest you could get in comparison would be placing outlines of Prussia over modern Europe and saying that it was still a region. Yeah, there's some connections, but it ain't gonna help you much
It's a lie. I'm sorry.
As a non-american, I have never heard of "northwoods" before.
This guide is inaccurate. The region labelled midwest is actually in the east. And the region labelled deep south is actually in the northern hemisphere.
This might belong in no stupid questions but, what is the significance of Columbia? There seems to be no geographical consistency, it seems to be used accross several countries and languages. What's the deal? Lol
Hahahahahahah holy fuck I never made the connection to Columbus. Fuck I'm dying cuz it's so fucking obvious now hahaja
The Rocky Mountains extend into NE Washington state. The map is a very rough approximation at best.
Some of these things seem solely topographical-based.
It would be pretty interesting if voting was broken down by these regions. It would probably be a lot more culturally representative.
Ohio River Valley actually extends to the WV border on the SE side (technically into it, but only like 1mi)
I assure you that nobody in Philadelphia considers themselves to be part of the Chesapeake region
And no one from Indiana says they live in the Ohio River Valley.
Maybeeee a few of the folks in Jeffersonville might. Maaaaayybeee
Yeah, I've lived in PA and NJ for 20+ years as an adult. Never heard anyone reference Chesapeake.
NEPA will not be happy about being considered "Upper Appalachia."
We should take this list and divide it into government districts. There are a lot of unhappy people and a lot of parts of states, conservatives in states where liberal centers control politics, and vice versa. This map corrects a lot of those areas of people with similar beliefs could be divided into similar districts.
