@Valmond Yes
@HogsTooth
Well that was a total misunderstanding of my post.
The idea is to come up with an ethical dilemma, apply critical thinking, and then show how crap the biblical approach is. With the examples I cited, I'm amazed you think this is teaching the Bible as fact. More like proving it wrong ethically & logically using itself as evidence.
@Stopthatgirl7
I actually wouldn't mind kids being taught critical thinking, ethics & the Bible as a subject.
Start with an ethical dilemma, apply critical thinking to it and then overlay an appropriate Bible passage.
Could cover original sin, lots daughters, midionite genocide, slavery, creation of hell, eternal torture for a finite crime, 10 commandments etc.
@Adalast
Exodus 21, 20-21
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
@ekZepp
I have a desire not to be tortured for eternity in a hell created by the being who is demanding I love it unconditionally, without credible evidence of it's existence. All because this being loves me & wants to forgive me for the sin of being descended from a woman who used the free will she didn't have to not be tricked by this beings lie into not eating a magic apple.
Fortunately, this is over ruled by my desire to live my life without being sucked into believing illogical bullshit.
@FlyingSquid @ekZepp
& especially when several prominent atheists instantly answer & explain 'this'.
@glimse @DarkThoughts
& Nixon's.
@frezik
The bible itself is the best evidence against the truth of the bible & the existence of God. 🤔
@cheesymoonshadow
Prayer is for when you think God's plan isn't good enough & you want him to change it to your plan.
@FlyingSquid @magnolia_mayhem
Turns out he was lying anyway & the 'deceptive' serpent was telling the truth.
@uriel238 @magnolia_mayhem
Sounds like New Guinea but I haven't ever heard the Levi jeans angle.
@Lanky_Pomegranate530
I was raised in a somewhat skeptical environment but had been drawn to Christianity by a charismatic bullshit artist.
A new girlfriend was interested in me & asked me to explain my beliefs. As the words were coming out of my mouth, I felt like such a gullible, credulous moron. Something about saying it out loud rather than just thinking or hearing it popped the illusion. Like waking from a weird dream.
Unintentional street epistemology. Still together 37 years later.
@RandoCalrandian @DeadNinja @Darkard @ivanafterall
Logically, praying for any outcome is against the will of God.
If God has a plan, prayer is basically asking him to change it because you have a better plan.
@ChunkMcHorkle @Lanky_Pomegranate530
35 years of faith must have been brutal mentally.
I'm Aussie so religion is not much of an issue here but I deal with it by separating the person from the faith if possible.
Belief is not a choice & I'm not convinced by biblical evidence. Feigning belief would not fool God if he exists.
My christian friends agree to disagree & we move on to other topics. I will not be the angry atheist they need me to be to reinforce their negative opinion of atheists.
@metaStatic @i_have_no_enemies
LeMaitre only took it as far as the universe expanding. He just reversed the expansion to conceive the starting point which was disparaged as the big bang. I'm not sure he had the tools or ability to work out singularities. I may be wrong though.
Einstein made the mistake of inventing the cosmological constant to make the universe a steady state against the evidence he was seeing.
@i_have_no_enemies
And he received push back from the science community who thought he was trying to shoe horn religion into science.
You gotta be careful with that scientific confidence thing.
@MrJameGumb @zarkanian
That whole punishment for not resisting the temptation of looking back seems to have been borrowed from the Greek myth of Orpheus & Eurydice. Like many other biblical stories.
@FlyingSquid @YoBuckStopsHere
Or patriotism.
Tribalism is basically the problem.
@not_that_guy05 @Lanky_Pomegranate530
Every prayer for action is an attempt to get God to change his divine plan because you think your plan is better.
At the very least, praying is patting God on the back & saying 'keep up the good work'.