By that definition could you have a swamp bog, a swamp fen, a marsh bog, and a marsh fen?
Wildlife biologist here, Absolutely.
Oddly enough I usually see/write it fen/bog marsh. There are tons of other qualifiers too, like salt marsh, tidal marsh and such.
The same applies for all 4 examples if it's needed. Salt swamps and fresh water swamps and such.
I'll have a tidal salt fen marsh, with extra tide.
Oddly enough I usually see/write it fen/bog marsh.
I was going to ask about the order of adjectives, actually, since I find esoteric grammar rules oddly interesting and have been on a bit of a "adjectives hierarchy" kick lately.
I find this definition a lot more compelling than the one in the meme.
In other words it's more to do with geology and how the wetland has formed from groundwater vs water flow, than it is to do with characteristics like ph and trees - those things sort of proceed from the basic structure.
I'm also curious. Can't find a way to subscribe to a thread, so I'm leaving a comment to check back later
That's mind bog-gling
I just think it's fenny
As non-native english speaking person that's highly fascinating.
I think this is more to do with scientists' definitions than English in general. See also: what is and isn't a nut, what is and isn't a vegetable, is there such thing as a fish.
How am I supposed to estimate the pH value of a given wetland area without specialised equipment?
- Take a sip. Did you trip balls? Acid.
- Take a red wire, black wire, and a clock. Can you power the clock? Alkaline.
Duh.
Just call it something online, if people don't immediately pop out of nowhere to correct you, then you're probably right.
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Determine whether it's a swamp or a marsh.
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Tell someone else you did your part, now it's their turn.
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What, you don't carry pH test strips around as a matter of routine? /s
Lick it. Just a little bit. Just a little snaky lick...
Learn botany. You can tell the approximate pH from the species of plants growing there.
Neat! Didn't know that.
Maybe you can find some red cabbage growing nearby?
Help, I'm stuck in a wetland, but I didn't bring my litmus test!
Sorry, I'm looking for you in the bog but you're not there
So what do you call a wetland that has a neutral pH and mixed vegitation?
Just from what I found, swamps are wetlands with woody vegetation being what DOMINATLY inhibits it. So if it's mixed, find out what there is more of. If it's 50/50, I guess the universe collapses.
And a wetland with a neutral ph is just called a neutral wetland.
Everything is a wetland.
It feels so liberating to hear it just said out loud
I never knew the fen/bog part! The only reason I knew swamps from marshes is from labeling them in OpenStreetMap
I’ve never heard of a Fen before
That's cuz ya basic like one :)
I forgot already before I started writing this comment
do alkaline wetlands just almost never exist, because I've never heard the word fen before
It's basically a bog with freshwater coming in through the bottom.
There are some in Massachusets, Colorado, Estonia, and this region of the UK called the Fens.
So, it would be a swampy bog and a marshy fen, but not a boggy swamp or a fenny marsh?
How does this make you feel:
https://www.ywt.org.uk/nature-reserves/fen-bog-nature-reserve
Pretty hecking neutral
PREACH! MUTHAFUKA!!!
LOUDER, FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BOG!
Huh, TIL
And me still not giving a Fuck...
This is one of my pet trivias :) hard to remember the pH for bogs and fens though. It has something to do with rain vs groundwater.
I fucking hate Tumblr users
i love when scientists take a swamp of arbitrary language terms and decide to impose some arbitrary specific meanings on them for purposes of their specific discipline and then convince people who don't really get how language works (i.e. most people) that the definitions are authoritative. it's fun to watch the cognitive dissonance when this collides with actual usage and people get all angry and righteous.
Dale/glen???
I'm still trying to remember the difference between pron3/supine
If it helps, I always remember it as 'the military goes prone, supine is getting a bone.'
Lol getting a bone. Or i guess i can look at the pine trees if I'm supine
Further evidence that the Marshbadge and the Soulbadge were accidentally switched.
I went backpacking through a bog once. It was quite the experience. It felt so foreign, almost like being in a fantasy world. I have pictures from that trip, and 80% of them are from the bog. LOL
So is the pond in my yard that I created 25 years ago, but then neglected for most of the last 10 years a swamp or a marsh?
There's not a lot of woody crap growing in it, but there is a tree that sprouted at one end that I've been trying to kill.
