Tennessee Senate passes bill banning chemtrails

The law and its premise is nuts, lets just get that out of the way first.

"The intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight is prohibited," the bill reads.

So on one hand this is a reading about banning any efforts of geoengineering. But modern day airplanes already dump "chemical compounds" into Tennessee airspace today as part of jet engine exhaust. The argument would be "oh, planes are okay because they're not dumping to affect weather even though those gases are affecting the weather via climate change." Doesn't that argument open up license for anyone to dump whatever they want (including geoengineering materials) if they can claim that isn't their primary purpose?

I mean, planes already inject, release, or disperse a lot of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances into the atmosphere, namely CO2 and water, which is why there are contrails.
Did Tennessee just ban airplanes?
- “With the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of sunlight.”
  I’m pretty sure they just made it so polluters are fine if the they are just doing it to pollute and don’t give a fuck about climate change
- *instructions unclear - CO2 emissions violate this new law; henceforth, airplanes are illegal in Tennessee
So doing it to make the friggin frogs gay is OK?
- gHeY FRooooooooooooooooohggssssss
Damn.
That is WAAAY moar worser...
You know that tornadoes are already prevented through cloud-alteration, right?
This would criminalize that?
We need to criminalize incompetence-in-authority!!
- We need to criminalize incompetence-in-authority!!
  I don't think that's possible. There won't be any governments left.
wouldnt that be great! some local citizen should sue an airline, using this bill, for affecting the climate.
Reading comprehension: with the express purpose of... That's not the express purpose of those planes.
- Reading comprehension: with the express purpose of… That’s not the express purpose of those planes.
  Critical thinking: the express purpose is whatever the creator/operator of the machine says it is.
  Jet engines on a plane's express purpose is to create a high pressure jet of air out one side to propel the craft forward. However, jet engines express purpose can also used to put out oil well fires:
  What makes one vs the other? Whatever the creator and operator of the machine decides.
  Specifically about geoengineering,
  There is a company releasing sulfur in geoengineering experiments source.
  Spraying sulfur is also used in gardening to treat plant disease and pest control. source
  So if I say my "express purpose" of releasing sulfur is for plant disease and pest control, even though the other thing it could do would be geoengineering via the same release, I would be in compliance with the wording of the law yet still be geoengineering.
I think also bans "coal-rolling" ... If that wasn't already illegal.

Fucking Chemtrails. I have MS and one of the times I was in a physical rehabilitation clinic, relearning how to walk, I had a nurse who believed in chemtrails. She asked if I realized that my MS was caused by chemtrails. I was taken aback. I was actively playing civ with a friend who heard my side of the conversation. After she said that, I had a short conversation with her about how chemtrails aren't real. She said "Well I guess all those congressional hearings I watched were fake." To which I said that we are never going to agree on this and it's better to just stop talking so we don't have an argument. She basically agreed and thankfully she was gone by the time I needed my MS meds that evening. Chemtrails are BS and yet so many people believe they're real, even in professions that should understand they're not real, that it is genuinely depressing.

A lot of nurses are dumb as shit. I've also met M.D.s who were seriously fucking stupid people.
- M.D. here and I feel like I should defend myself but all I can think of was this highly trained doc who fought the hospital administration about having to wear masks, in the hospital, during peak Covid. I mean he was actually one of many but what made him stand out was that his wife was in our ICU. With Covid. Yes he continued to fight masking even as his own wife was near death in the ICU.
  So, yeah.
- I had two CS professors who should NOT be asked about anything other than programing or math
  If it was something other than those two topics then you will almost certainly be given a confident, yet incorrect, answer
- Covid taught us that a lot of nurses are straight up batshit. It was sad.
The doofy thing is neurotoxins in aviation engine fumes are 100% a real thing, but it's not in the white lines you see behind jets, it's from small planes burning leaded AVGAS. There's a mandate to find a replacement for 100LL by 2030, but we're still burning leaded gasoline in lots of GA planes.
- Which is very characteristic of the Conspiracy minded, they occasionally have a kernel of truth and then turn it up to 11.
that's disturbing, I'm very sorry you had to deal with that, having someone you were supposed to trust with your health, who suddenly pulled back the curtain and revealed themselves as an utter moron.
Perhaps she knows what she's talking about. The rate of MS in Saskatchewan is ten times higher south of highway one than north of it, and american air force pilots have admitted to using that highway as a visual marker to spread chemicals in other instances in the area. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/u-s-secretly-tested-carcinogen-in-western-canada-during-the-cold-war-researcher-discovers
- First off that article says nothing about MS increased rates anywhere. But also, it talks about something that happened from July 9, 1953 to Aug 1, 1953. It's one instance of testing a chemical for the cold war that was for trying to determine how Nuclear Fallout would spread in the area. Also, worst of all, you said there was an increased rate of MS in Saskatchewan but then posted an article that talks about something that happened in Winnipeg, which last I checked, was in Manitoba not Saskatchewan.
  Edit: It does list an event that happened in Alberta but those were just claiming they could see some "distanctly visible emissions" but no study has shown any evidence for that being an actual chemical being ejected from the planes. There is also a supposed instance of it in St. Lois where they use just two people as evidence for it. It also talks about other tests the cia and other government agencies have done on the populace but none of those listed were a chemical dispersal except the original.

Breaking news: Party that built its entire platform on a stupid conspiracy theory now expanding platform to other stupid conspiracy theories.

How do they just keep going backwards?

A stupid population is easier to control.

states to visit: ~~Tennessee~~

~~Florida~~
~~Texas~~
~~Oklahoma~~
~~Alabama~~
- Don't forget Idaho
- one of the tech sites yesterday had a short blurb about states paying to get workers and remote workers to relocate – seems to be a pretty strong overlap between implementing conspiracy theory laws and trying to stop the “““right””” kind of people from leaving …
And it sucks. We loved going to Nashville and other parts for concerts, the food, etc but we can't support this insanity. We decided to nix Tennessee with the last big news story and now this.
That's an easy promise to keep, because there won't be any jet planes flying in or out of the state due to chemtrails LOL
- Chemtrails are not contrails.
  Edit: spellchecker broke it.

Tennessee. Passing legislation that regulates imagination.

Oh good. Mission accomplished. I guess they'll have time now to go after the real issues, like... What's inside everyone's pants when going to the bathroom. Or making sure women don't have access to health care when needed. Even ensuring priests are in every school...

Christ we have created a dumbass country

Not exactly. The issue is that we have let the idiot's take control. We have let the idea of democracy and civility lead us to this mess. Those of us with working brains need to start yelling louder than the morons and tell them to sit down and shut the fuck up because the adults are taking back control.
- You can't control a cult because they reinforce each other constantly. It's like trying to reform an alcoholic when all his friends, co-workers and associates are drunks and he lives right above a bar.
- Is it working?
  Or have we defunded education and science for 50 years, and now we have a nation of idiots?
It is making "Idiocracy" look good.

Its about time, maybe now my wife will come back and listen to me knowing that we can finally live with clean air and no more frogs turnin gay

Bullet dodged?

The bill would have some merit if it just hadn't tacked on the chemtrail nonsense. The issue of geoengineering and how one group or country's activities can affect others negatively is valid concern, but it goes far beyond protecting a single state within its borders. Is Tennessee going to sue states west and south of them because weather movement there ends up spawning tornadoes in TN? The environment is shared, we all have to act together.

Lol you assume they understand words, consequences, correlations, and causality. They understand nothing other than "what's mine is mine and fuck you"
This bill was nothing other than idiots discussing chemicals, we all know this, don't pretend they were almost smart. They aren't.
Everyone knows the weather is very polite and will respect the imaginary lines we drew /s

In related news, The boogeyman, Sasquach, and Godzilla are also forbidden to enter Tennessee. The rainbow has been officially reclaimed from the homosexuals that stole it from God, but the bill to build a wall to keep out the gay frogs died in committee over funding issues (Mexico refused to pay for it).

Now can we pass some legislation preventing corruption? Or helping families with kitchen table economics? No? oh, okay.

Guess I’m not flying to Tennessee because my plane makes condensation.

In a perfect world, all the large airlines would boycott the state.

Wait, what? Chemtrail is real?!?!

In the sense that water vapor and engine exhaust are real
Relax, it’s a brand of granola that contains small pieces of plastic.
…I’m kidding, it’s worse, it’s the conspiracy one.

I feel safer already. /s

I would actually almost be willing to support a stupid bill for stupid people if all it did was ban the stupid chemtrail conspiracy ideas and not actual genuinely useful tools like cloud seeding and other legitimate weather engineering. If they just said “it is hereafter illegal to intentionally inject chemicals into exhaust that turn people liberal or make frogs gay” then sure, at least then the chemtrail idiots could shut up and finally believe the planes aren’t (deliberately) poisoning them due to their hard work and diligence.

I would be down for it if they had just accidentally banned air travel. Air travel is pretty much intentional changing of the environment when there are other methods of travel available.

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How the fuck do you ban condensation?!?!