why waste time sleeping when you could waste it paying for your CEO's lambo

For anyone who thinks this would be a good tradeoff, this would be the worst sleep of your life.

I've only had sleep paralysis a couple times and it was always because I was stressed about homework/work and my brain kept trying to work through the problems in my sleep. It is a terrible experience. Sleep is about way more than physical rest. Depriving your brain of good sleep will ruin your memory and make functioning during the day exceedingly difficult.

Plus, let's look at what employers did in response to women entering the workforce. Has average household income doubled? No, pay has stagnated to the point of households needing two incomes to meet expenses. Don't expect working through your sleep to mean a life of leisure in the day. You're more likely to see wages fall to the point where everyone needs a day job plus a sleep job.

Lucid dreaming is just becoming aware that you are dreaming. Doesn't affect sleep quality at all. Now forcing a lucid dream seems like it might make you sleep worse, but I'm sceptical it even works tbh
- I don't think anyone's saying that the lucid dreaming alone is bad.
  It's exploiting the lucid dream state to force people to work when they should be resting.
- So the thing is
  Dreams are supposed to be the mind sorting and copying loosely connected memories for long term storage (because cells don't have a long shelf life) and therefor utilizing the brain during sleep will in theory cause a person to not perform that regular maintenance and eventually sustain permanent brain damage or loss of memory.
  You are not supposed to be aware of dreaming. Dream perception is a side effect of maintenance.
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7445824/
  https://www.sleepfoundation.org/dreams/dangers-of-lucid-dreaming
Lucid dreaming isn't the same as sleep paralysis though. I've had several lucid dreams and it's great sleep - it has to be because it mostly happens during the deepest part of sleeping.
Would I want to work during a lucid dream though - hell no.
- Hence my emphasis on stress being the factor that led to sleep paralysis for me. I've had plenty of lucid dreaming that was fine. It's when my brain gets stuck on a problem that I can't resolve that it gets out of control and I feel trapped and unable to wake up.
  I should have avoided generalized statements when only talking about personal experience, but I am completely convinced that external stimulus meant to keep you working would severely degrade sleep quality.
i say all the time that women entering the workforce is the biggest scam. the only reason its worthwhile is if it allows a woman to support herself, but these days its nearly impossible to be self sufficient

Matrix is affordable housing program.
Murino, Kudrovo is where I am.

I saw the Nick Cage movie Dream Scenario and I'm going to say "fuck no get out of my head" right off the bat.

Between this bullshit and Musk's brain chips the future is looking pretty bleak.

Also I suggest people check out Made for Love. It's a show about what happens when a billionaire eccentric weirdo creates a brain chip...

I just watched this yesterday. a weird one, no surprise from Nick.
Spoilers
Was he manipulating the connective consciousness with his desire for attention then anger at rejection? Or was it just random sci Fi with his character at the center?
Edit If the former, I choose to view it as an alternate timeline origin story for Freddy Kruger even though that character was mentioned in the movie
- I think he was unintentionally manipulating the connective consciousness. I.e. his unconscious dreams were bridging that gap. And in the beginning he was somehow mass-projecting himself into dreams that reflected his emotional state.

Humanity loves torturing humanity.

Those who seek power will never be sated, because absolute power is entirely beyond the means of men, yet they find lacking power which they believe they so rightfully deserve to be deeply offensive.
- Skill issue. They should start training their ki so they can fly and blow up planets.
  No wait, CEOs won't be able to do that because they are weak af. Nevermind. They'll never reach true power.
- People are always looking for new things to exploit. We've made basic human survival so obtainable that much of the population enjoys living in excess. We need to go back and fine tune society so that it properly distributes all our resources. That includes fighting the monsters that gaurd and gate keep the levers of power.

Last night I had a dream that my cat had his own pet cat and that both of them were dancing a waltz on the corner of my bed.

In my dream I was very disappointed because I was unable to get a video of it on my phone and when I woke up I was so disappointed that it wasn't real, but I still checked my phone just in case.

I have no video or even pictures of the dancing cats, And that makes me sad.

I got you friend.
Yoooo you have no clue how many times I whip out my phone in a dream to record and photograph the weird happenings, and then realize "oh wait there's no way to get the data off this thing" and just look down at my phone with sadness, and eventually wake up with that very same sadness

Didn't you have ads in the 20th century?
Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio. And in magazines. And movies. And at ball games and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts and written on the sky. But not in dreams. No siree!

- Yes, the line is that we should ban both ads and wage labour in the waking world too.
  Workers of the world, unite! We have nothing to lose but our chains!
I love this bit and quote it terribly as often as i can.
If you think about it, that is just idiocracy

If I work in my sleep I get the day off, right?

Right?

The fuck is a 'day off?'

You can completely control your dreams and do whatever you can imagine!

Ooh! Can I work extra hours?

"Does it mean I can enjoy life during day?"

"No, it means you will work day AND night."

"Does it mean I will be paid more?"

"No, you will be paid less."

Lmao I can't even imagine what crazy surrealist shit I'd come up with in my sleep.

"So, fembywho, I believe you worked last night, any progress you would like to share?"

"Ahem. Yes, uh. cough I searched for the lost spirit of my old acquaintance V from high school who bravely sacrificed herself for the good of humanity, and now is our only help against the alien menace. My companions thought her temple would be the most likely place to search, but I didn't expect to find anything. Her spirit is hiding somewhere only I can find, but I haven't been able to access that knowledge. I have seen visions and flown across many lands."

"Excellent progress. Keep us informed."

Working while sleeping and having the rest of the day for myself seems cool

Yeah, no. This would become "8 hours for working, 8 hours for working while you're asleep, and 8 hours working because 'fuck you' that's why"
- I don't think much of anything will become of this tbqh.
and having the rest of the day for myself
XD
- I mean if I sleep 8 hours and I did my 8 hour shift, no more work

I want to make sure I'm squeezed for every drop of productivity.. my purpose has become clear

Oh man.

We should all act like these totally work and they’re a huge boon to productivity.

Normalize mid-day office naps! PAID naps!

did nobody learn from hypnospace outlaw?

Glad I wasn’t the only one..
Better get your beefbrain shield now
That's where I learned we should never allow boomers on the internet
It's another "don't create the Torment Nexus" situation again...
Or Dresden Codak?

They literally stole this from Hypnospace Outlaw

Can't wait until they make beefbrain real
I'm very glad I'm not the only one here to have thought this 😅

This is so weird and not for the obvious reasons. We as a general people (worldwide) are more productive then ever and if anything there is more production then the market can handle. Even by the most cut throat thinking this is pointless. Who is going to buy the products produced by the sleep slaves?

sources and image transcript:

the top half of the image is screenshot of this article about a startup claiming to be able to use ultrasound to induce lucid dreams so that "people can work in their sleep". (spoiler: it's vaporware)
the lower half of the image is a screenshot from this (imo worth-watching) 2 minute video from 2016: Hayao Miyazaki's thoughts on an artificial intelligence with the subtitle "I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself." There is a more detailed description of that video here. (Guillermo del Toro agrees.)

Came to ask for the source on the bottom. What a funny quote.
Thanks for making the fediverse more accessible!
…goodness that is dark.
Can’t say I’ve ever felt that way about a tech demo!

Qe testers around the world rejoice.

Got your stuff mostly automated,? Run those tests while you sleep.

Why does it seem that all the 80 sci-fi I watched was actually a documentary of the future...

They keep making the fucking Torment Nexus.
It's where all the adults today got their ideas about the future.

This isn’t new. The upside is that you can, for instance, practice playing the guitar in your sleep. Or work out. It makes a measurable difference.

Wasn't this on an episode of Trash Future?

Is that the movie prop from Dream Scenario?

I wouldn't mind this if it was for my own personal benefit, not for a greedy employer who's already working me when I'm awake.

Seriously. They come up with something like this and the FIRST thing they freaking think of is to use it to work while sleeping? I know they have tested their own product because they are STILL dreaming!

Holy shit HypnOS is real!!

Hopefully we can can order some Granny Cream's Hot Butter Ice Cream in this thing

I'll stop taking my meds and sleep in a hot room. My mind will open a portal to hell.

Fuck I'd take that deal. I get to sleep 8hr and wake up paid. Id only work in my sleep

Haha that’s not how it would work obviously. Mandated overtime!
- With no overtime pay because "you're just sleeping!" Reduced pay for everyone!
They'd raise the prices of everything to match incomes. So, then you'd have to work during your sleep or be unable to afford your cost of living.
- And let's not forget the new standard 80hr work week.
"Well your work is great. Fantastic even. But I can't help but notice you're always sleeping on the job and that's just not what this company culture is all about. You never come to the office, you've missed the last three company pizza parties... I'm sorry but we're gonna have to let you go."

Tell me when you jailbreak that thing and then I'll start being interested.

Eh, whatever gets them to invest in Lucid Dreaming technology

Can't wait for my Uber driver to show up lucid dreaming.

Is the lower panel from the students presentation of that weird, AI driven body movement animation? I appreciate the reverence but also wonder how many people will recognize it.

I just looked that up, and I feel sorry for those students. I'm imagining they were trying to make an AI that does realistic movement like that Google experiment, and when it failed and ended up weird, they thought they were gonna fail their assignment, until one of them thought "we can call this zombie movement and still get a pass."
Then they show up to present it and this guy says not that it's trash, but that it's offensive because he has a disabled friend. You can see the sorrow on the presenter's face. I'm not sure he had any way of knowing that the guy would react that way. Who looks at creepy horror movement and thinks "this is offensive to disabled people"?
They didn't just fail, they got dishonored, and I'm not sure that was justified, though I don't know the whole context.
- Agreed, I remember feeling really sorry for the students, who were so proud to be allowed to present their project to the master, just to be murdered by him in front of the class. That behavior is not acceptable, especially not from a teacher/master. I felt embarrassed myself, just from watching the video. On the other hand, Miyazaki is known for very aesthetic, classic, hand made animation, so it is not that surprising he disliked the weird, AI generated demo they showed him. Also, as he said in the video, he has a friend who is physically disadvantaged and the demo reminded him of his suffering friend. Probably he acted in an oversensitive/irrational way because of this.

I mean, if I could study and learn cool shit in my sleep that'd be pretty awesome. If this tech ends up working as intended it seems like we wouldn't be far from being able to play video games or watch porn in our sleep.

We are closer to futurama than we thought...

(Ads in your dreams)

Even when I'm lucid, I'm a fucking moron in my dreams. I'd do this just to poison the data with whatever idiocy only a dream brain can create.