MAGA Republican Pledges “End of Democracy” to Rabid Cheers at CPAC | Republicans at CPAC 2024 are openly vowing to take down democracy.

I guess I got to be the first year to say it: this is fucking horrible, and we have to do everything we can in our power to stop this.

The comment directly below this one reads like propaganda straight from Moscow. I'm very glad to see it down-voted. Blaming blatant authoritarianism and extremely dangerous rhetoric on "old people" seems like a pretty obvious diversion from the actual culprits: the entire Republican party who is sleepwalking into a legit second coup attempt. They're losing political power and have abandoned the idea of democracy. The fact that they're unable or unwilling to drown this Nazi rhetoric in the bathtub speaks volumes. They are openly supporting authoritarianism. Not "old people". Republicans.
I just wish that included candidates that weren't geriatric. Their age and old values are from a dead world.
- And yet Bernie still wasn't popular enough to even beat Hildawg.

Posobiec, who helped popularize the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, appeared at CPAC’s opening day on Wednesday. He spoke during a panel moderated by former White House adviser and white supremacist Steve Bannon.

They’re not sending their brightest, folks. Many such examples.

Seriously though, I didn’t have a pizzagate guy openly advocating fascism at CPAC on my doomsday bingo card, yet here we are.

There's a non-zero chance that they actually are sending their brightest.
- And they can hire the most intelligent sociopaths money can buy
- And that their brightest are as retarded as these retards.

"We didn’t get all the way there on January 6, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this, right here,” he said, gesturing to the crowd and holding up his fist.

Isn't it the way to get some alphabet agency on your ass? Dude doesn't only speak Jan 6 was a coup, he encourage people to do it again.

It's unbelievable that someone says this AND it is found to far exceed the speech and debate clause AND is held to account.
But then, most authoritarian leaders are initially I stalled under cheers of their own population. And mostly people know what they are voting for. The MAGA crowd seems to just be more open about it.
Just recently Indonesia voted for a guy who literally murdered his fellow countrymen as head of a special forces unit. But the youth think his TikTok dance is Soo cute, so they vote for the sweet grandpa with the cute dance. I hope they will be alright.
- But the youth think his TikTok dance is Soo cute, so they vote for the sweet grandpa with the cute dance.
  Excuse me, wtf, how it's even real: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRF4nUIRAAA
- The speech and debate clause only covers members of Congress and Senators, and only for their debates in those respective houses. It dates back to when traveling to Washington might take several days, through several states, and they didn't want members to be subject to arrest if some random Mayor or Sheriff didn't like what they said.
  This guy is not a member of Congress and can't use that as a shield.
Some of those who work forces...
- ... Are actually miniature horses? (I heard miniature horses are pretty racist)
Sir this is a conservative oligarchy not a Wendy's. Rules are only for anyone we declare to be too far left.
FBI would be the ones with jurisdiction, and they are mostly right wing. There's never been a director of the FBI that wasn't registered Republican. That should tell you just how likely they are to take this threat seriously.
- FBI are cheering along at home, let's be real. That organization has some some heinous shit in the service of white supremacy.
Well, if he was, say, a Black progressive saying such things, it would be something to get an alphabet agency looking into it, maybe even a visit from an agency, and actually cancelled nearly everywhere.
But, IOKIYAR.

Republicans are criminals, cheaters, liars and traitors.
And I have proof, just watch and listen to everything they do.
They HATE America and want to rule it with a sick 2000 year old genocidal religion.
Always vote for the candidate to does things to help Americans, and chooses human rights over fascist control laws.

I mean, Christianity is still less genocidal than Islam. Not that this is a huge achievement.
And they don't seem very knowledgeable about it.
EDIT: Somebody disagrees that Christianity is less genocidal than Islam? Something-something demonstratively not racist, so uncritically supportive of the biggest group of "brown people" you've heard of? Though I'd add that historically it has been similarly genocidal, what I said is fact only in our time.
- I wouldn't say it's a either or thing. I'd say they're equally genocidal.
- It's absolutely not. This is your post 9/11 bias showing. Islam, historically has been less genocidal than Christianity.
  Much of the colonization of Africa, the Americas, and other regions was done in the name of Christianity, through that there were many genocides of indigenous peoples. Many wars were fought over the flavor of Christianity after the reformation.
  Religion, in general, causes people to do vile things. But Christianity has more blood on its hands than Islam.
- There are many different flavors of Christianity just like there are many different flavors of Islam. Each flavor has its own set of doctrines that they apply to themselves. None of those different flavors can claim to be the true flavor. Defining a religion by just one of its flavors is misguided and wrong.
- Just to jump back in and be more unpopular... ALL Abrahamic religions are evolved from each other. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are the holy trinity.
  Parts of the Torah are in the Old Testament and the Koran.
  People will be shocked that the stories are slightly edited versions of the same line of mythology.
  None of them are "better". They all promote control and hatred.
  None of these religions are helping people or society. They are only helping themselves to money, power, control and a larger cult following.
  No one needs religion. Humanity only needs water, food, shelter.
- "Religion A is less genocidal than Religion B". This is a supremely futile argument to make.
- I remember someone studying Koran vs. "the" bible and showing that even the text is more genocidal than the Koran. This was on NPR some number of years ago; pretty easy to find. Of course, apologists for xtianity and/or "Judeo-Xtian values" (lol), will not want to hear this.
  Of course, all three Abrahamic religions are tied to "the" bible, so I'm not sure it's all that relevant, but....definitely a lot of xtians need to know.
- Oh good. We won't have Islam than, glad that's settled.
  Idiot

Isn't this what the second amendment is actually for?

it’s what the whole fucking constitution is for
- ... Ignore the shit parts though. Ideally we'd amend them.
  Honestly we've learned with Trump just how shit the constitution actually is legally. There really needs to be a constitutional reformation.
The second amendment tells you what it's for - militias. But what are militias for? The constitution tells us that too.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 15: [The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
So, no, the second amendment is about a system to suppress insurrections, not commit them. You've been lied to.
We have revolutions every 2-4 years. Insurrections are not about the will of the people, they are about subverting the will of the people.
- I didn't think the commenter above was referring to arming the insurrectionists....
- ~~That also infers your militia has to be one that can be called up and thus that Congress can declare who is and is not a member of a militia.~~
  Edit - nvm that requires like three leaps of logic not accounted for. Don't post before coffee kids!
And the way the winds blowing is why the #1 demographic for first time firearm purchasers throughout covid has been liberals.

I used to get scared to talk about weed on the phone. You don't disparage a public figure with a hint of violence for fear...

How TF is this not enough to lock these motherfuckers up? This is the God damn United States of America and these treasonists are threatening our government. Fuck "soft Democrats" - this isn't about policy. These criminals are promising a coup against our democracy. Why aren't they in jail? I'm seriously asking. Where the fuck is law enforcement????

There are a bunch of Supreme Court rulings which basically said the KKK can advocate for violence in general so long as they don't lay out specifics. That's what these folks hide behind
- Well, as long as they're abiding by the rigorous standards of the KKK then. Clearly an upstanding group of people to emulate.
- Holy shit. When was that??
Right. Law enforcement, defenders of democracy.
- Of their own livelihood 🤷
  Can't even count on the evil conventions of days past anymore dag nabbit
Jail is just right-winger free parking until the next putsch, law enforcement is mostly on their side.
- Ugh I hate how right you are. I just assumed federal agencies were above it bc of their black/white sociopathic by design ways.
"But what about mah FREEZED PEACH?" -Nazis, all the time
- Whoosh eli5 please
what laws have you seen being enforced lately? literally none that matter.
- I don't fucking understand this. The old right wingers in govt like the world order in the "new American century" so why aren't they doing anything?

Time to start killing fascists.

Italian here, sometimes I wonder why we ever stopped, it should be an ongoing thing
So when will we be seeing you on the news?
- Do you just go around trying to pick fights with everyone?
  No thanks. :)

Republicans, the party of treason.

"That probably sounded better in the original German." -- Molly Ivins.

Wonder what they’d do if we started proclaiming and raucously celebrating “The End of the Republic”.

These idiots probably only associate democracy with democrats so they cheer

No, they know exactly what they're cheering for.
- they certainly think they do. they will be horrified, but it'll be too late.
They want to take power and do whatever they want with no consequences or input from the other half of the country, and they don't care if it will only last a year or two before they realize that now that they gave all that power to corrupt overlords they have no ability to revoke it as soon as leadership starts doing things they don't like.

How the fuck is this a thing

They want a crowd and they cheer the thrill of battle. Because they believe they are on the right side.
- I still can't understand how the political left could accept that their opponents dub themselves "right". Do they not understand that "right" also means "correct"? It's a marketing failure from the get go, regardless of etymology. We should start calling the political right something different, like "wrong". Or "party of assholes". Change my view.
- Well they're certainly not on the left
- Great. Lock em up.

I'll take him at his word. I don't doubt he'd follow through with what he's saying.

But also the headline sucks. He has a heavy sarcasm to his voice like he's mocking liberal's and the media's portrayal of him and "rabid cheers" isn't how I would describe the sound of the reaction in the video.

Yeah this is the same kind of thing they did at another one of these events in the past with the whole "Ladies and gentlemen, we are all domestic terrorists." thing. It was meant as a joke to make fun of what the liberals were saying but at the same time it wasn't entirely inaccurate.

Does anyone have a link to this actual speech, whenever I hear something this damning, I assume something is wildly out of context.

Here you go.
LIVE REPLAY: CPAC Day Two 4:48:38
edit: never mind, that is his CPAC speech where he promises to destroy to democracy
edit: People only seem to be reporting on the clip linked in the article that was of the panel in that conference room. There doesn't seem to be a recording of the entire panel online currently.
- Ok he did say it verbatim but it sounds like he's being sarcastic.
  Edit: y'all I never said that this was a responsible example of a politician communicating with the public.
Shh, we're on a roll here.

A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.

Will Durant

I first remember that guy for his absolute brutal takedown of the OT god in his Story of Civilization.

200 years ago, there would be a rope shortage right about now.

Basically MAGA Republicans showing their true faces. They know that they don't have much of a future without cheating or dropping democracy altogether.

This should disqualify any of these people running. These are treasonous bastards who should not be allowed to participate in democratic elections.

If American Republicans can't win using democracy, then they'll just show their true colours and go full on fascist. Nothing new here. We saw it with the 2020 Capital Hill riot and we'll definitely see it if Trump is elected again, except it could become temporarily permanent.

This is more of an "if we win, we will toss you in jail or kill you" kind of promise

FIFTH. COLUMN.

The Republican Party and the con movement is nothing more than a fifth column in this country, if not just outright terrorists. And every serious journalist should state that fact as often as possible.

WOLLT IHR DIE TOTALE REPUBLIK?

For something to end it needs to start.

Man if only someone at the DNC would see this...

EDIT: y'all I was being sarcastic

They do. They love how far to the right they can now go while still being second worst.
- You're still at it jfc

Doesn't democracy allow any useless corrupt politician to come to power as long as they are popular? Like, it's the power of the people, by the people, for the people, but the people are retared? /S

"Rabid applause" lol what fucking BS. Anyone who watches that video can see what an absolute blatant lie that is.

FFS, it was a bad joke that mostly fell flat. Republicans pose real threats to our democracy and way of life, no reason to trump up some BS like this. All that does is open the door to for something Republicans can latch on to in order to dismiss actual valid concerns.

Keep in mind that this guy constantly downplays Jan 6th, and claims it was actually the feds. He believes it is a false flag, which is why this is obviously a joke.

FFS, it was a bad joke that mostly fell flat.
I think I've figured out why Republicans are so dogshit at comedy. They think a "joke" is what you retroactively call something you meant in earnest as soon as you get pushback.
- Are you saying the comedic stylings of Mein Kampf aren't hilarious?
- This guy has spent a ton of time claiming that Jan 6th was a false flag and it was all a set up by the feds. He's a fucking total douche and I hate defending him, but this was obviously meant as a joke, poking fun at the people claiming they are trying to destroy democracy, rather than "saying the quiet part out loud."
  And this is the thing about comedy: it's likely a test to see if you share the same values. You don't share the same values as Republicans, which is why you don't find their humor funny. . .and vice versa.
It's maddening to see it to be honest... This is the exact same thing as "we're all domestic terrorists." They're "poking fun" at what everyone says about them. They are literally trolling us, these kinds of people sit back and rub their nipples in intense pleasure as they read the left freaking out about what they said. They live for that kind of shit. For those that play video games: these are griefers, they live to make your day worse and there's no easier way than to use cheap words to rustle your jimmies.
No matter how shitty our SCOUTS is right now, it's shitty on behalf of major corporations, they aren't going to just dismiss the constitution completely just because some morons say they want a theocracy so they can impose their will on others as if it's what God wanted... They're going to impose their will, but they can't just snap their fingers and make the constitution disappear.

You can root for the rebels all you want. But Palpatine lived a long life and controlled most of the galaxy with his empire. I am rooting for the empire.

You clearly missed the point of those stories.
- No no I was making a joke. It was just in bad taste.
- According to Disney, the point is that fighting fascism is pointless because even if you succeed, whatever you build in its place is doomed to collapse within a few decades. Might as well just let the Empire win.
It would be nice if it was benevolent dictatorship. That has never happened and never will with our current iteration of our species.
- Such an idea is impossible anyways, because to ensure a benevolent society you need to incorporate the wide range of viewpoints and experiences of the people within it, something a dictatorship, by definition, precludes.
- I feel like some Roman emperors fit the bill. Or maybe Alexander the Great. At least for the people in their empire.
You should suck up to China or Russia for Palpatine, what America has is Grima Wormtongue
- That is interesting. Who do you suppose Theoden and Saruman are, in this context?
- It's not Palpatine in Russia. Really.
His own second in command threw his evil bitch ass down an access shaft to his death while a united opposition got together and blew up his doomsday moon sized space collosus.
You can root for losers all you want.