Diablo 4's latest microtransaction controversy is a $30 portal recolor: "You can get Palworld for this price"
Diablo 4's latest microtransaction controversy is a $30 portal recolor: "You can get Palworld for this price"
People who decide to throw money at games with such shitty practices are part of the problem.
I'd say they are victims of predatory practices.
Like drug addicts. You can't expect drug addicts to take all the blame. Sooner or later you have to realize that the supplier enabling the addiction is part of the problem.
I’d say they are victims of predatory practices.
That is a very good point regarding children and mentally challenged people. It does not excuse responsible adults though.
Like drug addicts. You can’t expect drug addicts to take all the blame. Sooner or later you have to realize that the supplier enabling the addiction is part of the problem.
That is not the most fitting comparison in my opinion. I think the solution for the drug problem is legalization of all drugs, free access to rehabilitation combined with thorough education and abuse prevention.
FOMO is strong in them.
Yes, they are. The problem is that they are millions.
Yup. I loved Diablo and I've played it since the first one came out. I never bought the last release, though. Fuck Blizzard.
Yes, Diablo 2 was the last good Diablo game. Hate blizzard, love PoE!
I'm trying to stay away from MMOs, which is were all these practices were really born.
No, I love them. They pay so I don't have to.
That may be true if you're into some F2P/gacha stuff, but not in a full-price game. These people just encourage more enshitification. Diablo used to have no microtransactions and was arguably a lot better too.
Lol you think you get a discount because of this.
They're the reason these shitty practices are profitable in the first place. Don´t forget we are talking about Diablo IV here, which is a full priced game. Off topic you might have a point concerning F2P games though. However, even the F2P games that are not P2W are usually at least to a certain part "pay for functionality/content/convenience" and not just purely "pay for cosmetics". Because of this I think it´s generally better to pay once and get a full game for that.
That's an excellent analogy, to say "you can buy palworld for that" which really makes it hit different for me.
It shows you how absurd it is, even with it being optional. It's still absurd.
Better yet. For the price of 2 portal recolors, you can get 1 Baldur's Gate 3.
The cosmetic skin prices in D4 are absolutely laughable, and the fact that they can only be used with ONE class make it even more bonkers.
Most people could buy palworld if they just cooked their own food instead of ordering.
Pretty silly to start saying this with Diablo really, when we can do the same with so many other products and services as well, Ofc it's really silly to charge 30 for a digital paintjob. But im not gonna police what other people do with their own money.
They worked for it. They spend it.
Someone could give me a billion for a Booger. Would be their right but would make them an idiot aswell.
Right now. Somewhere on Earth. Someone. Is currently purchasing Diablo 4.
P.T Barnums every second a sucker is born quote comes to mind.
And they have to live with the shame.
and Palworld
cept palworld is actually good and worth its price
And will happily drop more cash on microtransactions.
It's on sale!
It's probably worth 40 bucks
Blizzard literally became so shitty I can't waited for Microsoft to take over and clean house.
MS haven't bought them to clean them up.
They bought them because they're already the level of shitty they're aiming for.
"Clean house" feels optimistic. Standard procedure for a buy out:
Nice description of enshittification from behind the scenes.
This is why corporations shouldn't be able to buy each other! Try that shit out as a model you fucking whores.
They already are in control. Kotick is gone. But yet, shit like this still continues
They're taking their upcoming DLC's name "Vessel of Hatred" too literally.
I played launch and the first two seasons. The game is not fun, but they clearly spend a ton of resources cranking out skins.
Skins are somewhat cool, but shit value since they only work on specific classes.
Meanwhile, skins in POE, arguably a more enjoyable game though dated, are usable across all classes.
Not exactly apples/oranges due to gender locked classes, but still.
And PoE has some of the most expensive cosmetics I’ve seen and even they aren’t as bad as a $30 color variation portal. PoE balances it out because the game is free to play. What’s Diablo’s excuse?
And poe has much cheaper, frequently on sale, qol purchases.
Do I need a $2 currency storage tab? No. Will it make the game mildly smoother, and functionally be the "price" of the game for me if thats all I ever buy? Yup.
Do I get to play as much game as possible before I decide to "buy" the game and get my currency tab? Absolutely.
Cheap qol purchases for a f2p game makes the outrageous cosmetics far more acceptable.
EnShitification
Isn't that just when they make it worse when it already has a lot of users?
Diablo franchise already had users, yes.
I went to buy a Goal Explosion in Rocket League yesterday. Purely cosmetic item. $25. No thanks.
who needs D4 or their cosmetics? I'm just waiting for Crate to release the new Grim Dawn Expansion, will probably be cheaper than that recolor too lol
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Hwhat
An expansion coming?
Yes, it's called Fangs of Asterkarn
I think I saw they said there is another update coming. Not sure how much actual content there is though. They specifically noted it's not an expansion / DLC. Just an update.
I think the issue here is people knew Diablo 4 was filled with monetization, season passes, cosmetic items etc and they bought it anyway and are complaining about it after the fact. The correct way to respond to sleazy companies is to take your business somewhere else. Reward games for being good, not for being cash grabs.
I'm glad I played the beta so I knew I wouldn't be interested in buying the full game.
blizz - the fuckhole that rapes you
I bought d4 on sale and I've gotten 110 hours out of it. Idk why I should be upset about some optional cosmetics that I'm never gonna buy.
This may be an unpopular opinion but as I see it most of D4s microtransactions are fine (still a trash game but that's a different point). They're mostly just cosmetics. They only exist so that people who want to can throw money at the company. If you don't want to buy them then just don't buy them. Like this portal recolor one. Sure it's $30 but it isn't like there is any advantage to buying it. It's not giving you faster warps to town or more xp or anything like that. It's only there for you to throw money at blizzard and have a graphic showing that you threw money at blizzard. If you don't want to throw $30 at blizzard for no gain then don't throw $30 at blizzard for no gain. If a bunch of whales want to throw away their money on cosmetics then let them.
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The dev time spent on garbage micro transactions could be spent on making a good game.
In addition to that jimquisition that another user commented, remember that its easy to say "it doesnt affect me if i dont buy it" but people do buy it. Some people spend silly money on cosmetics and if people keep dojng that then it encourages game companies to spend less time on making the games good and more time on pumping out cosmetics.
The proof is in tbe pudding. Games are mostly shit now.
These are massive companies whos sole aim is to make money, not entertaining games. They dont care, they will just follow the money.
This is mostly a me problem but I get mad at the very idea of someone spending $30 on a skin. That is such a clash with my values it's upsetting.
Like, I don't want to slide all the way down the "why spend any money on fun when people are starving" slope. I understand that people need some joy in their life.
But I just don't see how the skins in these games bring joy anywhere near the money charged for them. Like the title, you could buy a whole other smash hit game for that much money! Plus tons of other non game stuff. That's a small dinner with friends. That's a small band's concert.
So I just get kind of mad that people are spending their money on this stuff at all. It's not a good use of money. Stop it. Be better at money. Reminds me of an old friend's idiot brother that would blow his money on expensive not-bulk soda and candy when he needed a new keyboard. Like literally failing the marshmallow test.
But I can't control other people. Sadly.
That's before any of the "blizzard wants money. They see the huge ROI for this stuff. It's a better ROI than other content. They will make more skins instead of other content" train of thought.
With apologies for this longish rant.
There's a number of reasons that "it's just cosmetic" is bullshit.
I an so sick of the “just don’t buy it” response to people complaining about increasingly shitty practices. It’s like if someone pisses in the far side of the pool and other people decide they like the warmth so they tell you just to stay over on the far side - The pool is still tainted, and maybe next time the pool cleaners decide not to use chlorine…
It's not that you can't complain, but moreso that people are tired of reading about people getting ripped of over and over again.
It's getting old when the solution is so glaringly obvious.
Alternatively focus your grievances towards the company. That has a better chance of making an impact in reducing the tainted waters.
So in short: you have a right to complain, but we have a right to tell you that you are a part of the problem if you pre-order or support companies continually doing this crap.
All this while there are plenty of other companies worth supporting. Sure it isn't your favorite franchise, but we aren't surprised leopards ate your face, again. I gave up on all those games from these companies and have found a lot of enjoyment elsewhere. Sucks but I refuse to give them money that makes this a viable model for them to fuckup over and over.
But why would the company care? They're marketing directly to a certain kind of person here. Anyone that would pay these prices - and plenty must pay because Blizzard hasn't blinked ONCE during any of this bullshit - has so much money that they wouldn't care if the colors were three times that.
Blizzard acts like their bread and butter is the upper-middle-class and it must be true because they don't change at all as near as I've been able to tell. Not only do their sales not take a hit, they just keep growing.
I don’t understand how that comparison fits because somebody else buying the portal has literally no impact on my game. Someone pissing in the pool is directly
impacting you with their actions.
I think the analogy is that it sets a precedent. Now the other companies see how you can pee in the pool and folks are either cool with it (buy) or are on the other end (not buy but meh). Now the pool standard is piss filled pool and we will never have a chance to get into a clean pool anymore.
If you want to take a swim you have to do it in a pissed soaked pool because we never complained or did anything about it.
It only affects you if they tell you. Otherwise it's hidden to you, too, so the comparison is apt.
Similarly, the company focuses on these mocrottansaction features, which does affect where they spend time developing and also how they design and develop the game.
Use a different pool where people aren’t pissing in them. They exist.
There are plenty of other games that don’t pull this shit. Play them instead.
First they did it at EA, but I didn't say anything because I don't play EA games. Then they did it at Ubisoft, but I didn't say anything because I don't play Ubisoft games. Then they did it at Blizzard, but I didn't say anything because I don't play Blizzard games. Then they did it at fromsoft games, but I didn't say anything because I don't play fromsoft games. Then they did it at supergiant games, but I didn't say anything because I don't play their games.
Then they did it at every other fucking company because it was industry standard.
In fairness to the complaints, there are fewer and fewer good clean pools, and they tend to be the less-and-less awesome ones.
I know this is a metaphor, but where exactly do they exist? If you're in a public pool, it's not like you can go to another town and use theirs. And if it's your own, chances are you only have one.