Windows dropped new feature called "sudo"

sudo systemctl disable telemetry

This incident will be reported

"What's a re-run?!"

This meme makes a lot more sense if you don't cover up the faces

- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.
- Still Beans face is 99% of the reason for even using the meme. Without it the image just looks like two people sitting side by side instead of the cheating.
- I don't, but I've seen the sauce and remember it.
Yeah you have to already know that one person is obviously looking over at the others answers.
- Excuse me? This is Mr. Bean, not just some person
- Ah, so that's how it makes sense!

This has put me in mind of when OSX added virtual desktops. Everyone forgot that they've been a thing in *nix for 30 years, and NextOS (which OSX was built on top of) already had them. So Apple purposefully removed them, let people complain about not having them (and build their own 3rd party solutions) for something like 8 years, then got mountains of positive press for the "new innovation" of virtual desktops. Isn't Apple amazing!

Great job Microsoft! I'm sure this is a game changer for the world.

Ah MacOS, don't forget they're continuing to neuter root/sudo ~~probably for some future goal of a walled garden desktop/laptop 🤮~~ for "privacy and security"
- Apple may introduce it again, but not before they get some trademark word for it like "Secure Ascension(TM)".
fyi the NeXT OS is called NeXTSTEP.
- Thanks.
To be honest, the first incarnation of Spaces was really damn good; they deserved some credit for that. Then they made it worse so it matches iOS.

Tabs in the file manager
Straight up using the KDE motto

Oh that second one has me in flames man

Are they actually naming the command "sudo" or is that just a comparison?

Edit: apparently yes, the audacity lol

Looks like they didn't even tried to hide it : https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sudo/
- The sudo command offers a way to quickly elevate a command as administrator from your current unelevated command line context and is familiar to some users coming from other operating systems.
Should have called it addo
- Or ditto
Yes
What's wrong with giving a command the same name as the equivalent command from other operating systems?
- That would be like calling the lynx command InternetExplorer

Don't forget all the UI/UX they've been copying from KDE. Working at Microsoft must be such an easy job when the open source community does all your work for you.

A problem I have with the GPL is it allows corporations and shareholders to use software for free. I would be interested in licensing software I make for commercial use by sole proprietors and other small businesses for free, but charge truly offensive prices to entities that have "investors." Like, Bob's wood shop, where Bob, his son Rob, and Rob's friend from high school Jimmy make butcher block counter tops? They can use my software for free. Microsoft? $600 trillion per seat per minute.
- How exactly do you want it? Publicly traded companiee can't use it? That would affect small companies too, but being publicly tradable is more likely to make an evil company in the end. Companies over a certain valuation? That would have problems with interest and private companies like valve not having to tell people their valuation. Mix of both is probably best.
Not so easy. Look at how often they have to redo the startmenu.

Microsoft linux when?

Seriously. Yes.
If Microsoft doesn't have a secret internal build of Windows that runs on a Linux Kernel, they're out of their minds.
The Windows Kernel, as cool as it is, is 100% a cost center. If Microsoft switches (seemlessly) to a Linux kernel, no one would really notice. So at some point they should really switch it.
- they'll have to opensource the code if they use linux kernel
  even with linux being vastly superior, it nice we have 3 major kernels with widely different approaches. it would be sad if either of these 3 dies out
- If Microsoft switches (seemlessly) to a Linux kernel, no one would really notice.
  Besides quite literally every piece of software breaking, sure.
Azure Linux exists
- As far as I know, Azure runs on Linux
http://www.mslinux.org/ ;)
but seriously they should
- Omg those quotes on the side lol
Some day, in cooperation with canonical and a nice KDE Theme

People are laughing, but it is annoying to open a Windows terminal, get a couple of steps into whatever you were doing, and find you need admin privileges for some bullshit.

Pressing up, home, "sudo " and enter is a lot quicker than opening a new command prompt in admin mode.

People are laughing because it took them more than 30 years to figure that out.
you can emulate this currently with psutils until the official sudo for windows comes out :)
also thefuck is even funner :)
- I unironically have thefuck installed in a few of my more frequently logged VMs. Incredibly convenient.
Where keys hope they support "sudo !!"
I've been already using gsudo for that purpose

sudo rm -rf C:/

The command has a smile C: so you know its safe.
actually, powershell also has aliases for unix-like commands, for examplerm. iirc you need rm -Force tho

I can't wait for their version to be totally broken compared to normal sudo on windows

Where?
- Where is what?

I'm glad they're teaching they're user base linux, will make transitioning easier

I think you're misunderstanding their goal.
- What parent is likely referencing
  TBH I wonder if the current Microsoft is capable of executing that here. I don't believe in a "changed" MS, but Linux is eating the world, and MS doesn't really care about Windows much anymore. Azure happily runs Linux VMs

I'll take it.

Do they finally have an ls in the default path, or do I still need to alias that?

There's an alias for it by default in PowerShell.
Better install LSD:
ps1

winget install --id=lsd-rs.lsd -e
- Or https://eza.rocks/

don't frogette about the new windows terminal

kinda sad tbh

Actually, you do... does it have higher authority than TrustedInstaller or SYSTEM?

No, just admin, which we could already do by running CMD as admin.
- Then it's fucking useless and that IS NOT sudo.

sudo can only be elevated via the User Account Control (UAC) security feature designed to protect the operating system from unauthorized changes using verification prompt.

lmao

Now get rid of those silly back slashes in paths, use bash as a non mentally deficient shell, change that sad kernel to Linux 6.8 and up, change your laughably sad NTFS to something sane, anything, even ext3 would do but take ext4, get rid of your ridiculous drive letters and instead of copying KDE, why don't you just switch to KDE on X or Wayland?

Do all that and make it open and free, like all other actual operating systems and we'll talk

I agree with everything but bash. Bash sucks I'm not going to lie, nearly anything else is better than bash
- what's wrong with bash?
- Zsh
Windows increasingly allows either slash for paths.
- I read about this a couple of days ago, apparently some support was there since DOS 2.0.

only through private ownership of property and capitalist competition can good ideas emerge and be adopted

Where’s my sandwich?

Write FOSS next, quickly!!!

FOSS!
Was that quickly enough?--
- Thank you, now we just wait ...
They're onto it already with a few apps surprisingly...
Windows when?
- Yeah, I know, but like imagine they pivot their full business model to foss.
Step 1: Release cool FOSS apps and gain popularity.
Step 2: The apps are still FOSS, but now most of the cool features are actually proprietary and running on the company's servers. <--- we're here right now
Step 3 (soon-ish): "Since our customers love our proprietary features so much, we're no longer maintaining our FOSS version. Subscribe to our new pro subscription to continue accessing the apps"
- Honestly MS doesn't even both hiding the fact that they want to you to use Windows so they can sell you subscriptions to proprietary software and the cloud.

To drop a feature means to get rid of it. Words have meaning, guys

Drop can mean to release or to discontinue, some words have two meanings, which gets selected via context.
- Confusingly enough to release can also mean to publish or to cut loose.
- Hey I know it's a week later, but I rarely log in to Lemmy.
  If you read the headline, it could be interpreted either way. The only way to know the actual meaning is if you already knew what the article was about, but if I knew nothing about windows, I could easily assume that it had a feature called 'sudo' which is now being dropped.
  Supporting this kind of behavior is how we ended up with the word 'literally' meaning both literally and figuratively. Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally
  Words can have multiple meanings, but If a word means one thing, but also the opposite of that thing, it adds unnecessary confusion. Not saying there aren't many other examples, but I think it's something we should try to avoid.
- Who knows anymore with these youngsters’ vernacular?

I discovered winget (command in PowerShell) a couple of years ago, it's pretty cool

Winget actually has quite a shitty history and you could put WinGet into the meme above. It's basically a clone of an open source package manager called AppGet. Microsoft reached out to AppGet developer to hire him and make the tool official, but somewhere in the process ended up ghosting him for 6 months before suddenly releasing WinGet, copying most of AppGet features.
If we're going to speculate why Microsoft did him dirty, the AppGet dev also made Sonarr (a popular "arr" tools) and someone at Microsoft probably killed the deal because they don't want to be seen hiring the dev of a popular tool in piracy community.

Press WinKey+Ctrl+D, then WinKey+Ctrl+(←or→). Windows already has multiple desktops.

Gsudo existed before

sudo can only be elevated via the User Account Control (UAC) security feature designed to protect the operating system from unauthorized changes using verification prompt.

Doesn't that defeat the entire fucking purpose of sudo?

No, you can still run admin commands from a non admin console which is kind of neat.
- "kind of neat" is being able to winrm into a machine without having to run a VNC session in parallel simply to click the popup. Taking the authentication prompt outside the shell session is... honestly, completely on brand for Microsoft.