Man who threatened Biden shot dead in FBI raid in Utah
Man who threatened Biden shot dead in FBI raid in Utah
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1255681
Archived version: https://archive.ph/tAw7a
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230809205032/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66457089
Yeah, umm⦠what did he think would happen when he threatened the life of a sitting president?
It's worth pointing out that the victim probably isn't in social circles where the government killing people for no reason all the time gets much attention. Hyperreality is a serious thing, the guy's worldview probably makes it seem like free speech exists, unless it's a bad slur on facebook dot commie.
a death sqaud in a banana republic ... psychic evaluation in a civilisation ?
I mean what was supposed to happen? Are we meant to be scared of the FBI? They can't even take down an overweight elderly man with a combover....
"The complaint said Robertson came to the attention of federal agents in March after he posted a threat against Mr Bragg on Truth Social, the social network owned by Mr Trump. The company alerted the FBI's National Threat Operations Center.
FBI agents then visited the suspect, who told them that the post was a "dream" and ended the conversation by saying: "We're done here! Don't return without a warrant!""
Not only does Truth Social narc on him, but the "dreams" defense was a true sign of just how far gone that asshole was.
You know you goofed when Truth Social turns you in to the feds
Truth social is in it for the grift, not for the heat. They aren't really the revolutionary counterculture fortress they make themselves out to be. They just figured out that stupid people are easy to monetize. Which is rapidly becoming MBA canon for all social media.
Why do you say that? Do you think an obvious grift like truth social isn't going to be play nice with the government? Why would any action they do hold more weight then something like facebook, reddit or lemmy?
They're taking away his right to free dreams.
The world is lesser now that we have lost this great mindThe messages continued as late as Tuesday, when he posted: "Perhaps Utah will become famous this week as the place a sniper took out Biden the Marxist."
Guy just wanted Biden to live up to the legacy of the first Catholic president
lol dumbass didn't even add "in Minecraft" to his posts
Completely forgot this was a thing lol
Virgin Putin
Vs.
Chad Biden
At least he went out doing what he loved....... being an idiot.
I don't if he could read before, but certainly he cannot read any more.
Reminds me of the guy who tried to break into a secure building with a gun , became frustrated by the bullet proof glass, and then hid in a field in the middle of his shoot-out with the cops to post some updates about his shoot-out.
This kind of guy is just going to become a thing in American culture now, I guess.
Honestly if there wasn't going to be innocent people caught in the crossfire, I'd be all for right-wing nutters starting shootouts with cops to be a thing. Hearing about a dead
or an on the news wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.Becoming Grand Nagus changed you, Rom. :( I'd rather see the nutters get therapy and the corrupt cops get fired.
Not even a gun. It was a fucking nail gun. Half-assed approach to domestic terrorism these days.
counterpoint:
Apparently they can be good for getting through safety glass that would stop bullets? Idk
Except that these are completely different. In this case the guys home was broken into by a bunch of uniformed gangsters
hog on hog violence, you love to see it!
I like it when bad things happen to right wingers
Same, those fucking "right-wingers" advocating for universal healthcare, the overthrow of capitalism, and the uprising for the proletariat.
Oh what's that? That isn't a right-wing thing? Well I just had the federal government murder you, and obviously the federal government would only murder "right-wingers" so I'm sure it's you who was mistaken.
Ok so either he drew a gun on them or they executed him. Well it should be cleared up quickly with body cam footage.
What's that? No body cam footage?
Right, then I'm going to have to assume they executed him while he was surrendering peacefully.
(I voted for biden, but I also don't trust the fbi to miss a chance to shoot someone)
I think it's hilarious that anyone trusts the FBI right now. They have been actively involved in sabotaging progressive groups and socialist demonstrations basically since their inception. And now Republicans have a massice gripe because we have like a dozen agents that say they have been silenced after whistleblowing related to Jan 6th.
You can assume it but would you bet any meaningful amount of money on it?
This guy literally directly threatened to kill FBI agentssfyer they came to talkvto him.
"Next up on Fox News... The libs have weaponized the FBI and are executing innocent conservatives for exercising their freedumb of speech!"
That was already aired months ago, this will just be a follow up story that they use as "proof"
Yes, the parties of Capital use the state-monopoly on violence to enforce the status quo. How old are you that you don't realize this?
In bad country you can be punished or even jailed for talking about government officials. Not here in America though.
What country don't deal with violent threats against their politician seriously? Are you suggesting people should act as if threats are protected speech
every country with a justice system ???
no really .. its not normalto do extra judical killings ...
I'm gonna throw this out there: if we're gonna have freedom of speech, it has to include advocating for the violent overthrow of the government.
The people are supposed to be in control, not the government and if the people have the rhetorical means to take their government down taken away in such a manner, they're not in control anymore. And we see where that kind of thinking leads us
Mate if I made violent threats about the king or prime minister here in the UK I'd get someone politely knocking on my door and giving me a solid talking to. lmao
It is fucking wild that yanks just think this is normal behaviour. You live in a country that will kick down your door and execute you for posting something stupid on the internet and think that's what happens everywhere else?
Yes. Until the person takes an action like bringing a rifle to within range of the president and actually attempting to assassinate said president, then it's free speech and you should stop being a fascist.
I am thinking maybe some free speech here might be appreciated
Oh noβ¦.anyways.
Well if it isn't the consequences of your own actions. Good riddance.
Not sure anyone deserves to be executed by a door kicking squad of jackbooted goons just for posting stupid shit on the internet. Certainly arrest and investigate them but this shit is dystopian.
Threats should be taken seriously.
Dont want to be shot dead? Dont threaten anyone, especially president
Consequences of the 2nd amendment.
In countries where someone like that isn't allowed to own guns, the cops show up and arrest him. In the US he pulls out one or many of his legally owned firearms and gets himself justifiably shot.
Well well well.
if it isnt the consequences of his actions.
And the world got a little less shitty today. I love seeing Darwinism in real time. I feel bad for the FBI agent that might have guilt from taking a life.
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Bury that miserable thing and set a porta-potty on the grave.
One less fascist symp voting in 2024.
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Fuck Around
Find Out lt;----- You are Here
This guy was too stupid to exist... and now he doesn't
He fucked around.
He found out.
He looked like he had a fucking baby shoe collection. What human garbage, nothing of value lost.
At least he's not wearing any toe rings
Ah fuck now its a Martyrer
That guy from Back to the Future
He is way more marty now.
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Good for them!
Never threaten my president!
So like it's cool just to murder people exercising their free speech on the internet?
Freedom of speech, not freedom from the consequences of said speech. It's explicitly illegal to do what this smoothbrain did.
He wasn't killed for saying anything. Sounds like this mouthbreather decided to suicide by cop when they confronted him. I'm no fan of cops, but FAFO in this case
in north korea, etc etc
Believe it or not, threatening to murder someone isn't protected by free speech.
Credible threats have less free speech protection. But I'm also concerned about this. The article doesn't have any details about the raid. If they were trying to arrest him and he pulled a gun, then that's just how it goes. If it was a no-knock raid, then it's closer to summary execution, in my opinion. Hopefully more details come out about this.
"I hear Biden is coming to Utah. Digging out my old ghillie suit and cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle."
"Perhaps Utah will become famous this week as the place a sniper took out Biden the Marxist."
Those probably cross the line and might not be protected speech. Especially when posted with pictures of the firearms and equipment in question.
Sounds like (purely speculation, since the details aren't available) he pulled a gun on or otherwise threatened the agents coming to arrest him, based on his other behavior. Told them to come back with a warrant, they did so, and he took issue?
Either way, posting on the internet about assassinating government officials, regardless of whether it's serious or not, was probably not the smartest opening move.
That won't stop the far right from turning him into a martyr
They sure are big on traitors and hostile to the rule of law lately.
They turned a dumb cunt that jumped over a barricade to rush a bunch of men with guns into a martyr.
They'll turn this guy into The Jesus to Trumps God.
What you mean that won't STOP them? That actually STARTs them again!
Or from producing more of them.
He must've forgotten to add "...in Minecraft.".
Thats just the official story. What actually happened was that dark biden's Cyber-Brain picked up the threat, so he used his lazer vision while at a rally in New Mexico to vaporize him.
The media is totally censoring the thousand mile long lazer beam the president shot out of his eyes. They have the footage, but they are too afraid to tell the truth, because then the Clinton Mutant Teenage Turtles will kill them.
Read all about it on that guys truth social page.
βOpeningβ is quite an interesting word in this context